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World of Warcraft |OT| Calm Before the Storm
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You get ilvl 870 gear (green). From doing the Argus questing, I had a bunch of that ilvl 880 BOA gear that I then sent to the boosted character.
Just moved there with my rogue, need to resub and play again lol, does seem like a good place. My old guild disbanded so I am testing uncharted waters.
Hey guys, sorry to bother you, but just a quick question.
I played WoW during Vanilla, and my brother continued on the account into TBC. It's been such a long time since we played however that neither of our characters are on the armory. What is the cheapest way to get my guys back up and running? I literally just want to log into my character and run around a bit, but i'm guessing I would have to buy some expansions and sub time, which I simply can't justify as I don't plan on returning. Any help is appreciated.
I played WoW during Vanilla, and my brother continued on the account into TBC. It's been such a long time since we played however that neither of our characters are on the armory. What is the cheapest way to get my guys back up and running? I literally just want to log into my character and run around a bit, but i'm guessing I would have to buy some expansions and sub time, which I simply can't justify as I don't plan on returning. Any help is appreciated.
Ask Blizzard for some free time just contact their customer support and say you wanted to see how the game has changed they'll probably give you a day or if you're lucky even a week.
You don't have to buy anything if you still have the account. Also you got the expansions for free since then except Legion (will be included later tho). And yes as said above if you haven't played in a long time Blizzard customer support guys usually give you like 7 free days if you ask nicely.
That's part of the new and "improved" leveling process Blizzard decided since their sub numbers are down to squeeze the suckers that remain and make leveling as boring as possible to sell boosts ERR I MEAN they made leveling harder because they wanted us to learn our classes and make leveling fun again yay that's why it takes 80 hours played to hit 110 now instead of just 20 or 30 hours.
That's somewhat normal, at least relative to other tanks. There are so few abilities now, and they're so spread out across the leveling process, that with the new leveling speed you can spend long periods of time with no real increase in your tanking ability. Don't even get a real tanking CD until 55 or something, no interrupt until 35 or something. They should front-load the learning of abilities more so people get a full toolkit sooner.
If they'd just give us our full rotations sooner that would fix my problems with the current leveling I don't mind it being slow but good god is it boring only have 5 or 6 abilities on your bar until like level 60 on the feral druid I'm leveling now I have like 6 or 7 skills at level 40 and it's dull as hell and I never get use to one of my abilities because by the time I've gotten all my bleeds stacked and gotten a drink of water while I wait for my energy bar to fill above 60 the mobs are dead.
Ahhhhhhhh
I had a solid group for a +15 arcway run (MY KEY) we were making great time and after the spider boss (we went reverse order) our rogue D/C'ed and just never came back.
We ended up missing the dungeon timer by like 4 minutes which I'm convinced could've been made up by the extra dps :(
Oh well at least a +14 DHT isn't gonna be too bad to +1.
Even that doesn't particularly help every case, I am having such a hard time leveling my fire mage past 89 because I am sooo BORED of spamming fireball and hitting pyroblast when it lights up and using fire blast to give me crit procs. It's not even a bad rotation, I quite like the interactions between all of fire's skills and all the buffs and I don't even think complexity = fun because even simple things are fun (I think demonic havoc DH's rotation is a blast and that is literally just 3 buttons and 3 cool downs). The problem is that while you level your stats remain relatively the same, because the gear you get and enemies you fight are all scaling so what that means is that your buttons always feel the exact same. You don't get that crazy satisfaction you get from a high crit high haste rotation, or all the fun extra procs you get from your artifact weapon that just let you obliterate enemies.
I guess the TLDR of my rant is, it's not that you need your whole rotation it's that you never feel like your character is progressing at all in power while leveling. You hit 64, unlock 85% of your core buttons and then that is basically it for character progression until 100. You'll be doing the same thing until 100 where it will only change slightly (till you get a bunch of AP at 110) and it will FEEL mostly the same for the remainder of the leveling experience.
I had a solid group for a +15 arcway run (MY KEY) we were making great time and after the spider boss (we went reverse order) our rogue D/C'ed and just never came back.
We ended up missing the dungeon timer by like 4 minutes which I'm convinced could've been made up by the extra dps :(
Oh well at least a +14 DHT isn't gonna be too bad to +1.
Even that doesn't particularly help every case, I am having such a hard time leveling my fire mage past 89 because I am sooo BORED of spamming fireball and hitting pyroblast when it lights up and using fire blast to give me crit procs. It's not even a bad rotation, I quite like the interactions between all of fire's skills and all the buffs and I don't even think complexity = fun because even simple things are fun (I think demonic havoc DH's rotation is a blast and that is literally just 3 buttons and 3 cool downs). The problem is that while you level your stats remain relatively the same, because the gear you get and enemies you fight are all scaling so what that means is that your buttons always feel the exact same. You don't get that crazy satisfaction you get from a high crit high haste rotation, or all the fun extra procs you get from your artifact weapon that just let you obliterate enemies.
I guess the TLDR of my rant is, it's not that you need your whole rotation it's that you never feel like your character is progressing at all in power while leveling. You hit 64, unlock 85% of your core buttons and then that is basically it for character progression until 100. You'll be doing the same thing until 100 where it will only change slightly (till you get a bunch of AP at 110) and it will FEEL mostly the same for the remainder of the leveling experience.
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Has blizzard commented on why Allied races have a rep grind anyway? Other then the usual disdain they have for anyone who would dare play their game.
Like what happens in the next expansion for people coming back or even new people who just skip all the legion content, are they gonna have to go and grind pointless dailies just to unlock some races?
Like what happens in the next expansion for people coming back or even new people who just skip all the legion content, are they gonna have to go and grind pointless dailies just to unlock some races?
It's something for you to do in the game. They certainly hope people will go back and do a rep grind, as that keeps them subbed. It's kept a lot of people subbed in the pre-expansion lull, and they hope that will continue well into BfA I'm assuming.
Right now it makes a good bit of sense but honestly I feel like towards the end of BfA (especially if BfA ends up being really successful and brings a lot of people back or new people) people are going to be reluctant to go back to grind out legion content for rep. If it's your first character it isn't a particularly quick grind either.
You gotta quest through all of argus, and clean out all of the WQ's for at least a week, you could speed it up with your order hall characters and doing the rep missions but that would require you to have done the order hall campaign, have leveled and geared up your order champs to the point that they get argus missions.
This is also assuming you have got the time to sit there and do the argus WQs as they spawn in the first place. If you just came back for BfA and used a 110 boost the rep grind to unlock the allied races could take a while, especially because you'll also have your new BfA chores to take care of. So really you could be looking at a months long grind if nothing changes and you're a player who skipped legion and plays a bit more casually.
I know it takes a long time. They designed it that way. I'm guessing it's going to remain pretty desirable because player races are a big draw, and elves in particular are a big draw to people.
It just remains to be seen if people will keep doing it, or if the frustration would turn them off. Blizzard's business intelligence people are some of the best in the industry, and I'd bet on them nailing this pretty close, whatever adjustments they make.
Yeah that's my thinking too, blizzard will probably look at the stats and if people aren't playing the new races at the numbers they expected then they'll probably look into it and figure out a way to do it better. But if the numbers look right then nothing will change I figure.
I just hit 110 on my first horde character, so I should be able to unlock the horde allied races right? Even though the rep/quests were done on my allied?
They have rep grinds because you're meant to experience the story of those races before they unlock. Of course the rep grind part of it really only makes sense for Nightborne in that sense though.
It's just so you have something to do. 100% chance they make the grind really easy after legion si done.
I gave up and have since been told the Prot Paladin tower is the hardest one.
I went back to my brewmaster alt recently at around level 50 and he just sucks for tanking. Takes so much damage compared to my warrior alt, just gonna do some dungeoning as mistweaver.
Apparently I didn't finish the requirements for nightborne. Not that I am exactly clamoring to start a new character, I think I am going to eventually do a nightborne warlock.
One of my guildies finished the achievs for all 4 this weekend, I can't imagine.
Like even the least exciting of the new races has some appeal to me, but I already have 16 110s, it's really hard to justify more.
Playing some WoW again now with a few people from my EVE corp and some of their friends/siblings/etc. Alliance (I'm on Sargeras). Used my banked 110 boost on a Void Elf Monk. I would've probably tried to level something, but the other people had 110s already and I wasn't about to drop $55 on a transfer for a project that might be more fleeting.
So I don't have the heritage armor, but I can level something else eventually I suppose. Just doing the Argus stuff over again for the umpteenth time is kinda painful - I don't know if I actually would've made it from 20 (for an allied race) to 110 right now, with the current slowed leveling speed. I think someone said it was like 80 hours /played now, even with heirlooms? That sound about right?
I mean, I imagine I'll level something new eventually, but yeah, it doesn't particularly appeal right now.
So I don't have the heritage armor, but I can level something else eventually I suppose. Just doing the Argus stuff over again for the umpteenth time is kinda painful - I don't know if I actually would've made it from 20 (for an allied race) to 110 right now, with the current slowed leveling speed. I think someone said it was like 80 hours /played now, even with heirlooms? That sound about right?
I mean, I imagine I'll level something new eventually, but yeah, it doesn't particularly appeal right now.
It took me 3 days and ten hours to go from 20-110 and I'm ocd as hell about timing myself if I get a drink or go to the bathroom I log out I never afk in game when I'm trying to level something because I like to see how fast I can level.
Do every dungeon once for the dungeon quests. It helps a lot. Just queue for specific dungeons and uncheck them as you complete them. Quest between queues.
Once you hit 71 or 72 farm trash in karazhan til at least 80. I was timing around 10-15 minutes to level up on some levels.
Oh you can solo it no problem at 71 or 72? Well damn I wish I had known that sooner.
I think by sitting in a chair in a cave at the Timeless Isle in Pandaria. It should teleport you straight to Gorgrond.
Yeah there is a cave in the timeless isle that has a chair and a campfire. You sit in the chair, click on the fire and you appear in gorgrond and I believe all the quests up to that point become flagged as auto complete.
I went there twice at 71 but I think it starts to really get going at 72 or 73. At 71 it still seemed better than questing in outland or northrend though lol.
Yes. You probably will have to go one pack at a time though until you get a few levels on you. It's still fast, so that's fine. But you won't be able to just run through and spam Holy Nova/WW/Arcane Explosion/whatever and have everything drop dead around you until you get up to 75-76ish.
That is so cool I've done that intro quest so many times I have almost all the quest text memorized this will help alot in BFA when I'm leveling more subraces.
I never knew you could skip the WOD intro, but not sure if I actually should since it seems like easy xp. My warrior is almost at WOD, not sure if I should skip it or not but if I am not in the mood I might.
If all you're interested in is leveling speed, it's probably faster to skip the intro so you can get your garrison up ASAP. Then you can buy exp potions with Garrison Resources and start flying around and collecting treasures/doing bonus objectives.
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