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World War Z losing steam Just 2 Days After Epic Boasted About its Successful Launch Numbers on Twitch
- Thread starter Arthands
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I wonder how well WWZ's numbers would sustained if it had come out on multiple digital PC stores as opposed to one.
Everyone really needs to stop using Twitch as a measure of any success. It takes one, just one, big streamer to play your game to get viewership up.
The number of views on Twitch would also include streamers from the Xbox and PlayStation pool, wouldn't it?
Well it's not like we have much else to go by and twitch can definitely be used as a metric to gauge interest
I also got a refund for the game because I finished every episode in like 3 hours. There is no real incentive to replay the episodes.
I believe there's a ton of value in advertising your game on Twitch since it gets eyes on it. But to know it's true success of how many sales or downloads it gets after the fact we'd have to get that info from the devs themselves. It's possible the viewership numbers crashing down could've been some higher profile twitch streamers being paid to play on day one.
Conversely if the numbers would have been this low without a paid streamer than that's another indicator of a lack of interest in the title
EGS dick waving a snapshot of Twitch viewers for 8 games, 4 of which are on multiple platforms that aren't the PC, as some sort of humble brag metric of a money hatted exclusive, doesn't really help endear them to anyone who already had issues with their business practices.
Which is why the EGS boast never made sense in the first place.
LMAO.
From the guy that got his fame and job by datamining Steam, and cried like a baby when Steam closed his data source.
From the guy that got his fame and job by datamining Steam, and cried like a baby when Steam closed his data source.
Again, not sure how a game launch going the same as it does for every other game is notable.
True that. Nowadays I figure many brand new games get a lot of people checking them out on Twitch rather than YouTube trailers too. So those day one Twitch numbers will always be skewed. Twitch is the most fickle social media platform around.
It's only with context that this article even makes sense. It's directly related to Epic's PR guy yesterday flaunting large Twitch numbers for EGS as a boon for the industry and a sign that more digital platforms have made the games industry healthier. It's just that a day later it has become obvious that the metric the PR guy used was silly as this is what happens to all new big games. Somehow I think you've gotten the conclusions of the facts and context backwards.
It's only notable because it was made out to be notable by Epic's PR guy despite it being same old Twitch behavior.
That or I think that Epic has created a strong countershock to EGS marketing. Anytime they promote something, I only expect people to backlash against it
Oh you're not wrong. Like this isn't something that should be taken as concrete evidence but it is an indicator.
personally I am glad this is being brought up. It was a total dick move on EGS's part to try and big up their service with blatant falsehoods.
What was false?
I don't see the big deal here. It's no different to a publisher boasting about day one sales numbers, even if they later drop off a cliff. It's just marketing. Happens everywhere.
Do people not understand that Epic exclusives performing in line with what games do on every other store is what developers and Epic want from the Epic Games Store? It means people will play games no matter what storefront they buy them from.
It matters because the people and company doing it are very bad.
because 9,10,11 are presumably on steam (pubg,csgo and dota2) would not look as good for epic anymore
It's a gross misrepresentation. Only two games on that whole list is PC only, so any success or lack of on EGS is entirely obscured. Not to mention Twitch viewership in any one moment is not indicative of overall success of a game.
There are at least 2 games in that tweet that are on steam. They are GTA 5 and Anno 1800, whilst true Anno can no longer be purchased on steam it is safe to bet the vast majority of purchases were on steam right up till launch day. The whole damn tweet was constructed in such away as to "big up" EGS in a borderline dishonest way.
Right, so 1 of those 8 are on Steam, as the tweet said.
I still don't see the big deal. Basically every marketing from every company is designed to make the product look the best it can be. Look at those pictures of meals at fast food and breakfast places, etc. etc. etc. I understand wanting to hate on EGS, it just seems a stretch in this case. It's like, "He said the game was popular and later it was less popular!!! WE GOT HIM!!!!!"
- PR guys uses good looking data he knows it is flawed as PR trying to paint themselves as super succesful.
- A day later it is shown that the data he used to push his PR message was flawed. (And everyone knew it was when he said it)
- Articles are published to make fun of how bad the initial PR statement was with new data in hand.
There wouldnt have been any pushback if the PR guy of the company hadnt touted the results as showing how this was the new reality thanks to them.
It is even more hilarious because (as I said before), most days there is only like tops 3 Steam Games in the Top8 of Twitch. The "multi-store" was already there before EGS even launched because most of the top streamer games arent in Steam.
That tweet by Sergey was already stupid when he posted it. Even before the Epic store, the top 10 games on Twitch were spread across multiple launchers and stores.
It would but console streaming and console streamers arent really the big thing on Twitch. Almost all of the top streamers (that would have been paid for this) would be PC streamers or stream on PC when its a multiplatform title. I doubt console made up any significant numbers on this.
Regardless, this story is ridiculous. Trying to pin the (completely normal) fall in twitch numbers on a game being EGS exclusive is fucking dumb.
theres that too, but all the popular streamers playing it have no stopped, so the viewer numbers obviously dropped hard
I'm curious,is GTAV trending because of the roleplay servers stuff?
I love the wording here. Like Anno is obviously being counted as a Epic game aswell as a Uplay but GTA is only counted as a Rockstar Social Club(lol) and wasn't Anno still preorderable on Steam? Steamspy has Anno 1800 as between 200,000-500,000 users on Steam so technically that should be 3 Steam games on his list. What a cunt.
EDIT - wait I fucked up I've never played Hearthstone but in my head I thought it was some Free To Play Moba on Steam. I'm pretty stupid. It's still a stupid message though and Twitch is not simply about PC games either.
another PC exclusive to EGS, another PC bomba.
If I were a dev going exclusive to EGS, I would be demanding 100 million. Nobody is buying shit off that thing.
If I were a dev going exclusive to EGS, I would be demanding 100 million. Nobody is buying shit off that thing.
