Would you prefer a remaster of Paper Mario 1 or The Thousand-Year Door?

[AuthenticM]

The first two Paper Mario games are fantastic. I love them both dearly.

If I had to choose between a remaster or remake of either, I think I'd go with the original, as much as I think TTYD is a better game. I think the first game has more to gain in the audio-visual department. Not only that, but if Nintendo wants to introduce the proper games to a new generation, they might as well start with the first one, and then follow-up with TTYD some time later.

Outside of the audio and the visuals, I would very much like for Paper Mario to have its combat upgraded to get the audience from TTYD. I thought that mechanic was super cool and added style and atmosphere to the game. It would work perfectly in the first game as well.

 

[noyram23]

I choose TTYD between the 2 BUT I would rather have a Super Mario Rpg again and should've been included on the poll

 

[Zalman]

whynotboth.gif. Nintendo greenlit two Mario & Luigi remakes.

In any case I'd start with the first one. TTYD is the better game of course.

 

[MajesticSoup]

Played 1 on virtual console.

It did not age well.

 

[Deleted member 36578]

I want to pick both. Put em in a collection.

 

[Strings]

Would prefer Thousand Year Door, but don't think either game needs one. They still look gorgeous.

 

[ClickyCal']

Played 1 on virtual console.

It did not age well.

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It's probably the best aging n64 game.

 

[Xita]

Would rather have a new game since I think both still hold up fine.

 

[KingK]

TTYD is one of my top 5 favorite games of all time, so I voted for that.

But the OP point about the 64 game having more to gain from a remake is true.

I just need to track down a copy of TTYD. Been itching to play it for months lol.

 

[MayorSquirtle]

The first game is more recently accessible on Virtual Console for Wii and Wii U. TTYD is still totally stuck on the GameCube. So, that. (Also it's the better game)

 

[Westbahnhof]

Depends on the remaster. Is it just 100% the same game, looking a bit nicer? TTYD.
Is it getting the Resident Evil 2 treatment? Then gimme the first one, that one needs it more.

 

[Giga Man]

Remake: Paper Mario
Remaster: Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door

 

[Valcrist]

TTYD has practically already been remastered with emulator HD texture packs. Better than an actual remaster would do for that matter.

 

[Noppie]

1 > 2 by a mile, so 1. Would love both though.

 

[Deleted member 33120]

Played 1 on virtual console.

It did not age well.

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In what way? I still think it has a fun story, characters, an engaging battle system, decent puzzles, good pacing, and decent music. It's aged much better than most games from that era

 

[oni-link]

Neither, a HD collection would be great, then I'd like a sequel

 

[Blade24070]

Both, but I'm one of few that prefers the original slightly to TTYD.

 

[JustTom]

I just need to track down a copy of TTYD. Been itching to play it for months lol.

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So am I. The Thing is people are charging 100€+ for the game over her in Germany and I don't feel like paying this...

 

[The Unsent]

TTYD is Paper Mario 1 with more depth and more imaginary worlds, it's hard to choose 1. I will always find 2 way more replayable.

 

[Mekanos]

I guess TTYD because it's never been rereleased, even though I prefer the first game.

Both games are fantastic though and don't need much, if any, tweaking.

 

[Cup O' Tea?]

TTYD and it's not a close run thing.

 

[Joltik]

The true answer is both. I would like both to get a HD graphical remaster.

 

[Deleted member 11276]

Definately TTYD. Paper Mario 1 is just boring in comparison.

 

[Cantaim]

Fuck this I ain't choosing I want both!

 

[Combichristoffersen]

I'd prefer a HD remaster of Galaxy 1 and 2.

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And a HD remaster of Eternal Darkness. Do it, Nintendo.

 

[Psyborg]

HD remasters of the first 3 in a collection would be fantastic.

 

[Lusamine]

Which one lets you get Princess Peach nude again?

 

[BorkBork]

Both are great. I haven't played TTYD in ages though, versus VC for Paper Mario 1.

 

[Clay]

TTYD by a long shot, it's way easier to play the first game through Virtual Console than it is get a GameCube and a copy of TTYD.

 

[plan9]

Still haven't finished the first one, and although TTYD is one of the Gamecube greats I'm gonna say the OG Paper Mario for that reason (and the N64 art needs a facelift more urgently). But preferably both of course! Paper Mario 1&2 collection leading to a new entry would be fantastic.

 

[OneSneakyBob]

Please don't make me choose between my children!

But in all seriousness, if one had to be remastered, TYD would probably make the most sense. Bowser not being the villain, alone, would likely be a selling point for those who played a variety of Mario games but none of the Paper games. Helps that it's extremely standalone too, story wise.

But Paper Mario 64 would be a more than welcomed choice as well, as it's incredibly fun and charming.

 

[Deleted member 1570]

The first Paper Mario probably has the most to gain from a remaster, but TTYD is my favorite, so I picked that. A few suggestions:

- Give Mario his spin dash maneuver from the first game (why did they remove this?)
- Maybe cut down on the back-tracking
- Prince Mush boss fight?
- Bring back trans Vivian

 

[Crashman]

Paper Mario 1. At least if you're asking what should have a remaster *first* cause I'm not averse to saying both could use it.

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Though unlike most people, I prefer the original Paper Mario to TTYD anyways

 

[Ramsay]

Paper Mario 1. Thousand-Year Door's backtracking really needs a full-on remake to fix, whereas the first game's problems aren't as difficult to solve.

Edit: Oh, and Paper Mario 1 is the better game.

 

[Reinhardt Schneider]

Paper Mario 1, unless they manage to make TTYD a game that doesn't piggyback on PM as much as it does.

Also fix that godawful backtracking

 

[Jane]

TTYD is (imo) one of Nintendo's very best games, whereas Paper Mario 1 is just decent. TTYD deserves to be brought to a modern audience far more.

 

[Lunchbox]

You know it's down bad when you have to fantasize about a remaster because you'll never get that good shit from Nintendo again.

 

[.exe]

Definitely Paper Mario 1. I think TTYD still looks plenty sharp.

 

[RingoGaSuki]

A remake of the first three Paper Mario games would be great. 1 is easily the most polished and best aged N64 game, TTYD is a masterpiece that more people should experience, and Super Paper Mario is an incredibly well written and fun game that goes greatly underappreciated these days.

 

[NuclearCake]

New game above all but i think the first game would gain more if it was remastered over TTYD.

 

[Kazooie]

New game, I do not want reamsters. If I am forced to pick one, Thousand Year Door because it is the significantly better game. But seriously, no more ports, remasters and remakes.

 

[Villa]

The original Paper Mario is my favourite game of all time, so that one. Both would be cool though.

 

[Deleted member 3040]

I think I prefer the original. But really, I think a new game would be better. If TTYD got a remaster, I wonder if people would be less forgiving of the linear corridors and backtracking.

 

[A_Jazzy_Book]

If forced to choose...the first, primarily. As you said, I feel it would benefit from it more, especially in the presentation department. Not opposed to the second one though, if only to really cut back on the backtracking and rework the corridor-esque level design, though that's more remake territory.

Ultimately though, yeah, new game improving on both.

 

[Alvis]

Remaster of the N64 one and virtual console emulation with high resolution rendering for the GameCube one seems like the logical answer.

 

[Vitet]

- Bring back trans Vivian

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Back?

 

[TheWill]

I voted TTYD because it's the better game, however in retrospect it doesn't need a remaster whilst the first would benefit greatly, especially with an expansion of the partners stories (other than Goombario/Bow, the rest could use extra screentime).

 

[BigTime_2018]

It's true that the original would have more to gain from a remaster, but I voted Thousand Year Door.

Despite being the more iconic of the two, it's a lot less accessible, due to only having an official release on the GameCube. Also, as someone who first played the original after Thousand Year Door, I found the original to be underwhelming. (Admittedly, I didn't play much of it. Maybe it gets better.)

Finally, Thousand Year Door is one of my favorite games of all time, so I really just want a way to play it on Switch haha.

 

[Garlic]

I think I prefer the original. But really, I think a new game would be better. If TTYD got a remaster, I wonder if people would be less forgiving of the linear corridors and backtracking.

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Ha, this literally happened to me when I replayed both back to back this summer. 64 has a great pace whereas TTYD is often a fucking slog. TTYD defintely sank a lot in my estimation. Shows have incredible production values can cover up wobbly game design for a lot of people.

 

[Deleted member 48813]

If I had to choose, the first one needs it more, but I'd rather have Super instead of those two since that's the one I played.