WP: Extreme Climate Change has Arrived in America

[Navidson REC]

Last winter in North NJ was over 6 months! There seems be an opposite effect here.

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Climate change also leads to an increase of extreme events, meaning higher highs and lower lows. The climate system is really complex, which is why the moniker "global warming" can be confusing to some. It does not mean that it just gets warmer everywhere and that's it. Positive feedback cycles in particular can be a huge problem for us.

 

[Gwarm]

I actually wish one of the democratic candidates would propose a massive tree planting program like India and other countries have done.

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I would love to participate in an event like this.

 

[Deleted member 6573]

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[Deleted member 23850]

Not a damn thing mentioned about New Orleans?

 

[samoyed]

All the personal consumption stuff is good and all but we also need large scale, top-down change of how we structure our society (cars, industries, etc).

Vote left, vote radical.

 

[Keldroc]

Well you know we are screwed on that end under this administration.

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2020 is an important election beyond just getting a monster out of power. Another four years of Trump's environmental policies will do even more damage.

 

[samoyed]

Kind of sucks that this is hitting the urban coasts first, but also karmically appropriate.

 

[ninnanuam]

This might be a stupid statement but is there a reason that desal isnt being brought online on a massive scale along the coasts?

Could the land locked communities in the SW not petition and pay for the pumping of desal ocean water to them thus both sustaining themselves and potentially (if done in large enough scale) lowering sea level? Or would there not be a way to move the volumes of water required?

 

[Lunar Wolf]

California is so fucked. When are we supposed to break off and become an island near Alaska?

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Only certain parts of it.

 

[TAJ]

I know. I would become a vegetarian if I could (I'm not giving up cheese and milk though) but it's not possible right now. But people won't change, we have a culture where we think that everything is fine and we can do whatever we want, and that's a problem.

And something that makes this even worse is that there's nowhere to escape to. There's no habitable planets around us. We don't even have an "Oasis" (the virtual reality universe from Ready Player One). This is the world I'm growing up in and I hate it.

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We can become mole people, I guess.

 

[a916]

All the personal consumption stuff is good and all but we also need large scale, top-down change of how we structure our society (cars, industries, etc).

Vote left, vote radical.

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This is where I land. Individuals making changes here and there are good, but we're well beyond people volunteering to make changes. Governments need to wake up and step in and take agressive steps.

 

[Fallout-NL]

do the unthinkable: drastically cut down on my meat consumption.

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It seems hard, but it really isn't.

This is where I land. Individuals making changes here and there are good, but we're well beyond people volunteering to make changes. Governments need to wake up and step in and take agressive steps.

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This though.

 

[Johnny Blaze]

This is where I land. Individuals making changes here and there are good, but we're well beyond people volunteering to make changes. Governments need to wake up and step in and take agressive steps.

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Yup.

I never had a car.

Eat beef once a week at best.

Have no AC.

Have no kids and don't intend to have them.

Been living like this for 10 years. The climate gets worse and worse. My contribution is basically non existant because I'm in the absolute minority with power/resource consumption.

Personally the worst changes wont hit me. And since I wont have any kids, I have no stake in how humanity handles this challenge (ignore, take it slow, radical etc.), I'll be long gone. But I'm down for whatever. If current and future parents care about their childrens future, I'll help. If not, then thats ok too I guess.

 

[Pooh]

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Great, all the climate change deniers in the south get to avoid the worst effects and continue to pretend like nothing is changing while the rest of the country burns. Ugh.

 

[Toxi]

This might be a stupid statement but is there a reason that desal isnt being brought online on a massive scale along the coasts?

Could the land locked communities in the SW not petition and pay for the pumping of desal ocean water to them thus both sustaining themselves and potentially (if done in large enough scale) lowering sea level? Or would there not be a way to move the volumes of water required?

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Desalination is expensive and difficult to do on a large scale. Certainly not on the scale needed for a massive agricultural state like California.

Lowering sea levels would be impossible for two reasons: The volume of water required is absurdly huge, and using the water eventually just returns it to the sea anyway.

 

[LegendofJoe]

There are workable solutions to many of the problems we're facing as a result of climate change. And the rest are all being worked on by brilliant, dedicated people all over the world. We're going to get through this.

 

[Brawly Likes to Brawl]

I wonder if affecting America will motivate any change.

Nah all the rich fuckers will just move somewhere nicer.

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survival shelters became a trend among the rich for a reason

 

[Deleted member 11113]

I implore everyone who is concerned about the destruction of nature, the mass-extinction of species and climate breakdown to join Extinction Rebellion and The Climate Strike. Doing individual lifestyle changes is fantastic, but we also need to demand change from our politicians. It's how women got the vote, how Black Americans got civil rights and how India freed itself rom British rule. We can't wait around and hope that someone will make it better; we have to do it ourselves.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/lett...llion-have-the-solution-to-the-climate-crisis

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"WE'RE FUCKED" / Extinction Rebellion /OT/ Heading for extinction, and what to do about it

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/gl...me-to-put-up-or-shut-up.133702/#post-23447012

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[Saganator]

I wonder if affecting America will motivate any change.

Nah all the rich fuckers will just move somewhere nicer.

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Yep. Probably already scoping out soon to be beach front property.

 

[Davilmar]

I moved from Rhode Island. Reading how much erosion is occuring on beaches is horrifying.

 

[heavy liquid]

Great, all the climate change deniers in the south get to avoid the worst effects and continue to pretend like nothing is changing while the rest of the country burns. Ugh.

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Exactly. It's a shame places like Texas and Florida don't seem to be feeling the effects. Although I'm sure they'd find some way to shift the blame.

 

[FliX]

I moved from Rhode Island. Reading how much erosion is occuring on beaches is horrifying.

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There is a fascinating (read terrifying) LAT long read on this. It's hardly a RI exclusive problem.

https://www.latimes.com/projects/la-me-sea-level-rise-california-coast/