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KimonoNoNo

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Oct 26, 2017
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I just picked up what I think of as a bargin.

looking for a more roughty toughty casual watch I found a brand new MWC Titanium G10 for 130 quid (roughly half price).

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(Ugh, please ignore finger prints)

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Don't you just love them Tritium tubes.

The strap is a bit cheap and nasty, but that's easily remedied.
 

Darth Pinche

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Oct 27, 2017
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Here is my modest collection. I apologize for all the crazy times, I am in the process of reactivating a lot of them. Some of the vintage watches I only use once it stops raining up here! (Seattle)
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Top: Cheap Tommy Bahama watch from my brother-in-law.
Seiko Mickey Mouse Quartz gift from my Dad back in the 90's.
1967 Bulova Accutron Spaceview, was my Dad's then he gave it to me in the 80's. Never serviced but still runs perfectly. For those who do not know, the Accutron pre-dates quartz movements and were among the first electronic watches. The second hand sweeps smoothly and it hums. A tuning fork keeps the time instead of a quartz crystal or a automatic movement! Getting batteries is trick though as they are quite sensitive to voltage.
1974 Bulova Accutron Snorkel. It also hums and works perfectly. Also from my dad. Yes he is a watch nut like me!
1990's Casio G-Shock

Bottom : 1970's Buolva Accutron dress watch, currently not functioning but I am searching for a replacement movement.
Seiko 5 7S26C. Came with a steel band, but I just replaced it with a Navy Nylon band.
1998 Tag Heuer Series 2000, Wedding gift from my in-laws and my usual daily wear.
1990's Timex Spider-man Indiglo, gift from my wife. Fun, but I swear the battery always lasts like one month before dying.
Hmm, an empty space. That just won't do.
 

danowat

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Here is my modest collection. I apologize for all the crazy times, I am in the process of reactivating a lot of them. Some of the vintage watches I only use once it stops raining up here! (Seattle)
z3Vs99ph.jpg

Top: Cheap Tommy Bahama watch from my brother-in-law.
Seiko Mickey Mouse Quartz gift from my Dad back in the 90's.
1967 Bulova Accutron Spaceview, was my Dad's then he gave it to me in the 80's. Never serviced but still runs perfectly. For those who do not know, the Accutron pre-dates quartz movements and were among the first electronic watches. The second hand sweeps smoothly and it hums. A tuning fork keeps the time instead of a quartz crystal or a automatic movement! Getting batteries is trick though as they are quite sensitive to voltage.
1974 Bulova Accutron Snorkel. It also hums and works perfectly. Also from my dad. Yes he is a watch nut like me!
1990's Casio G-Shock

Bottom : 1970's Buolva Accutron dress watch, currently not functioning but I am searching for a replacement movement.
Seiko 5 7S26C. Came with a steel band, but I just replaced it with a Navy Nylon band.
1998 Tag Heuer Series 2000, Wedding gift from my in-laws and my usual daily wear.
1990's Timex Spider-man Indiglo, gift from my wife. Fun, but I swear the battery always lasts like one month before dying.
Hmm, an empty space. That just won't do.
Sick Spaceview, always fancied one of those.
 

Darth Pinche

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Oct 27, 2017
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Sick Spaceview, always fancied one of those.
Thanks. It is an amazing piece of technology and people tend to be interested in it when i wear it. They are amazed by its age. Somewhere I have a photo of me wearing when I was 10 years old. I had it as a kid, but once they stopped making batteries for it, it stayed hidden away at my dad's (in Chile) for many years. Then I found people making specialty batteries for it a few years ago and my dad brought it out of storage for me. I popped the battery in and it immediately started working after sitting for 20+ years. It was risky to get it started again like that since I could have fried the movement, but it worked out. The band is not original but the 70's era stainless steel flex stretch band fits it well.
 
Oct 30, 2017
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Received the sarx055. Oh wow. The brushed bracelet, zaratasu polish that Grand Seiko uses, the sharp lines and angles you'd see on a Grand Seiko, too....this watch is amazing for $1,000. Th dial and indices pop in lighting.

If this was a Swiss watch it'd be $1000-$2000 more.
 

dallow_bg

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Oct 28, 2017
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Your dad had good taste. Those Bulova's are sweet.

Received the sarx055. Oh wow. The brushed bracelet, zaratasu polish that Grand Seiko uses, the sharp lines and angles you'd see on a Grand Seiko, too....this watch is amazing for $1,000. Th dial and indices pop in lighting.

If this was a Swiss watch it'd be $1000-$2000 more.
Post a pic, it is pretty sweet.
 

Tryptobphan

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Dec 22, 2017
414
So anyone else here got any new watches lately? I'm still waiting for one of mine to come in...It's been like 2 months.
 

SteveMeister

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Oct 31, 2017
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My Xeric Trappist 1 is broken AGAIN. Minute disk isn't properly attached I think; it stops moving even when you're setting it, and if you jar the watch it'll sometimes move. Fortunately I found out Xeric's repair shop is not far from where I live, so I'm going to go directly there at some point instead of shipping it off again.

My 20th watch has been ordered -- a Klokers Klok-01. I'd been eyeing them for a long time now and ToMo finally had a good sale on them. Should be getting it within a few weeks.
 

dallow_bg

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So anyone else here got any new watches lately? I'm still waiting for one of mine to come in...It's been like 2 months.

I picked up a "new to me" watch recently.
It was 2 for one. ;)

Been looking for one for a couple years now. Finally snagged this non-two tone model in pretty good condition.
Omega Equinoxe (1981) - it has a reverso style face and I adore the bracelet.

 

Tryptobphan

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Dec 22, 2017
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I picked up a "new to me" watch recently.
It was 2 for one. ;)

Been looking for one for a couple years now. Finally snagged this non-two tone model in pretty good condition.
Omega Equinoxe (1981) - it has a reverso style face and I adore the bracelet.

That's amazing. I've never seen or heard of that watch before. I'm a fan of the Jaeger LeCoultre Reverso, so that watch is definitely awesome.

Congrats on the new watch. Wear it in good health.
 

Tryptobphan

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Dec 22, 2017
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I'm a fan of the Submariner and Explorer 1's more than the GMT watches from Rolex, however, that's a really nice example of a the Pepsi GMT. I hope it finds a good home.
 

SNES Jr

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Oct 26, 2017
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Anyone ever restored an old watch? I just picked up a JLC from the 50s that I purchased at auction, curious if it's worth it to try and restore or just leave it as is and enjoy.
 

SNES Jr

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Yeah I think I agree, the mark around the 10 is the only thing that I'm not in love with.
 
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Galacticsushiman
Oct 26, 2017
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I'll take my own pictures of the watch at some point. I'm leaning towards just leaving it as is since I bought it to wear instead of as an investment.

If the issue are the dots on the dial, do not touch it. You risk damaging the white layer, just by touching it... It's a 70 yo dial after all :)

But the more pressing issues are the black marks on the case (at 3, 5 and 7). It could be nothing, but I would not be surprise if this was mold and could cause corrosion, if you can have it serviced by a serious watchmaker you trust, it may be worth it :)

Also, the top right lug looks strange... It does not have the same shape as the other ones, and the junction with the case looks bizarre, have a precise look at this if you can :)

Enjoy!
 

SNES Jr

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If the issue are the dots on the dial, do not touch it. You risk damaging the white layer, just by touching it... It's a 70 yo dial after all :)

But the more pressing issues are the black marks on the case (at 3, 5 and 7). It could be nothing, but I would not be surprise if this was mold and could cause corrosion, if you can have it serviced by a serious watchmaker you trust, it may be worth it :)

Also, the top right lug looks strange... It does not have the same shape as the other ones, and the junction with the case looks bizarre, have a precise look at this if you can :)

Enjoy!

Thanks, I think you're idea of having it looked at by a pro is a good idea.
 
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Galacticsushiman
Oct 26, 2017
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Thanks, I think you're idea of having it looked at by a pro is a good idea.

Yes, also, I do not want to be the cassandra of this thread, but I have some (little) doubts on the dial to be honest. It's the first time ever I see the bottom of the JLC logo touch the markers on the alarm disc, and the triangle inside looks a bit far way from the markers... I am not saying it was redone, but I am not 100% sure either... Maybe a post on WUS would help, as I am not a big specialist of memovox. Good luck mate!
 

SNES Jr

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Yes, also, I do not want to be the cassandra of this thread, but I have some (little) doubts on the dial to be honest. It's the first time ever I see the bottom of the JLC logo touch the markers on the alarm disc, and the triangle inside looks a bit far way from the markers... I am not saying it was redone, but I am not 100% sure either... Maybe a post on WUS would help, as I am not a big specialist of memovox. Good luck mate!

I have paperwork from JLC and it was bought from a legit auction house so I'm not too worried about any shenanigans but I'll still get it checked out.
 
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Galacticsushiman
Oct 26, 2017
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I have paperwork from JLC and it was bought from a legit auction house so I'm not too worried about any shenanigans but I'll still get it checked out.

Unfortunately paperworks and 'reputable' auction house do not mean anything anymore in this crazy world of vintage :(

I busted PHILLIPS last year for a dial redone on a TRI COMPAX, I also busted CHRISTIES more recently... And many IG accounts are dedicated to busting auction houses these days (perezcope, orchi, etc.).

Make sure to have it looked upon by a JLC specialist, and keep your invoice from the AH. Good luck buddy!
 

NTGYK

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Ahh glad to see this thread back. Just another outlet to feed my watch addiction...

for anybody that want to check out my humble and affordable wrist watch collection, ->> instagram.com/ultra7k

I submit my ultra affordable, solar powered Orient Panda for viewing.

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I saw this and fell in love with it.

I love watches and I wish I earned enough to get the watches that I really, really love, but man, I do love Orients. Great design and affordable. What's the diameter of this one?
 

ultra7k

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Oct 27, 2017
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NTGYK It's about a 42mm diameter, and around 48mm lug to lug.

If you do get one, beware there is a variant of this watch that has neon green hands and no date window but has the date in a sub dial - it's usually cheaper, but I find it less pleasing aesthetically. Also, get a strap or something else to go with it since the stock bracelet is just...ugh, but that's no indication on the quality of the actual watch itself!
 

Tryptobphan

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Dec 22, 2017
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I saw this and fell in love with it.

I love watches and I wish I earned enough to get the watches that I really, really love, but man, I do love Orients. Great design and affordable. What's the diameter of this one?

That Orient watch from Ultra7K is just beautiful. I've never seen that model before. Is it a Japanese Domestic Market only watch?

Of the watches I own, one of my favorite is the Orient Symphony. I was originally in the market for the Orient Bambino, but this Symphony just spoke to me.

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I guess I generally like dress watches more than sport watches since I'm drawn to dress watches more. I recently bought an A. Lange & Sohne Saxonia Thin. It's clearly not the most expensive watch from A. Lange & Sohne and it's by far their most simple watch. However, I just absolutely loved the simplicity and elegance of it. No pictures do it justice since I've yet to see a picture online show off the reflective attributes of its baton indexes and hands. It's quite beautiful in person.

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And for everyone who says you can't wear an A. Lange & Sohne with anything except formal attire, I disagree. I think you can wear a dress watch like an A. Lange & Sohne in casual clothes with no problem.

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NTGYK

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I wanna get a dive watch, but what's a good one under $250?

I love the design of this Nezumi Baleine:

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Anything similar to this but at a better price point?
 

Tryptobphan

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NTGYK

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A seiko or Orient of some sort, like the Seiko SKX007 (or one of its many many variants) or the Orient Ray 2

I'm a big fan of Orient watches. I'd say it's totally worth going up just another $100 for the Orient Mako USA II at $350, however, if you just want to spend $250 or less then you can't go wrong with the Orient Mako:

https://www.longislandwatch.com/Orient_AA02002D_Mako_II_Dive_Watch_p/aa02002d.htm

It looks good, but I'm not feeling the design as much as the Nezumi. Hmmmm, might be a case of it looking better in person
 

Tryptobphan

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It looks good, but I'm not feeling the design as much as the Nezumi. Hmmmm, might be a case of it looking better in person

Hm... Honestly, if you find the designs of Seiko and Orient dive watches not to your liking in pictures then you may not like them in real life. There are certain details you can't see from the pictures like the raised applied logo vs. a print one, lume, etc. however, what you see online is pretty much what you get.

With that said, I was going to say you should look into the Sinn dive watches since that Nezumi reminds me of one, however, I think the Sinn watches are even more expensive. Everything else I can think of that looks like that watch are all much more expensive...

Hopefully someone else here can help.

If not, I recommend joining this community and asking them. They're really helpful and friendly:

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f74/
 

EnronERA

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Oct 25, 2017
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Hm... Honestly, if you find the designs of Seiko and Orient dive watches not to your liking in pictures then you may not like them in real life. There are certain details you can't see from the pictures like the raised applied logo vs. a print one, lume, etc. however, what you see online is pretty much what you get.

With that said, I was going to say you should look into the Sinn dive watches since that Nezumi reminds me of one, however, I think the Sinn watches are even more expensive. Everything else I can think of that looks like that watch are all much more expensive...

Hopefully someone else here can help.

Sinn is fairly expensive, yes. Way more than Nezumi.

For the price of a Nezumi, you can get a Steinhart with a swiss movement in it (ETA2824). Id rather have the latter for sure.
 

NTGYK

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Hm... Honestly, if you find the designs of Seiko and Orient dive watches not to your liking in pictures then you may not like them in real life. There are certain details you can't see from the pictures like the raised applied logo vs. a print one, lume, etc. however, what you see online is pretty much what you get.

With that said, I was going to say you should look into the Sinn dive watches since that Nezumi reminds me of one, however, I think the Sinn watches are even more expensive. Everything else I can think of that looks like that watch are all much more expensive...

Hopefully someone else here can help.

If not, I recommend joining this community and asking them. They're really helpful and friendly:

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f74/

Sinn is fairly expensive, yes. Way more than Nezumi.

For the price of a Nezumi, you can get a Steinhart with a swiss movement in it (ETA2824). Id rather have the latter for sure.

Seikos and Orients nail the price point for me, but the other alternatives, as nice as they are, are just way out of my budget.

The Orient Ray Raven might be the closest in terms of looks that I like.
 
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Galacticsushiman
Oct 26, 2017
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That Orient watch from Ultra7K is just beautiful. I've never seen that model before. Is it a Japanese Domestic Market only watch?

Of the watches I own, one of my favorite is the Orient Symphony. I was originally in the market for the Orient Bambino, but this Symphony just spoke to me.

SFgAzgO.jpg


I guess I generally like dress watches more than sport watches since I'm drawn to dress watches more. I recently bought an A. Lange & Sohne Saxonia Thin. It's clearly not the most expensive watch from A. Lange & Sohne and it's by far their most simple watch. However, I just absolutely loved the simplicity and elegance of it. No pictures do it justice since I've yet to see a picture online show off the reflective attributes of its baton indexes and hands. It's quite beautiful in person.

xrf2RcK.jpg


bzRDTMj.jpg


And for everyone who says you can't wear an A. Lange & Sohne with anything except formal attire, I disagree. I think you can wear a dress watch like an A. Lange & Sohne in casual clothes with no problem.

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Nice pick up! The Saxonia is really something indeed! And more versatile than expected as you said :) Enjoy!
 

Tryptobphan

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Dec 22, 2017
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Seikos and Orients nail the price point for me, but the other alternatives, as nice as they are, are just way out of my budget.

The Orient Ray Raven might be the closest in terms of looks that I like.

I totally forgot about the Orient Ray Raven, it probably would suit you better than the Mako and Tritons from Orient. You know what? Here are some good pictures of the Orient Ray Raven:

https://www.longislandwatch.com/Orient_AA02003B_Ray_Raven_II_Dive_Watch_p/aa02003b.htm

However, you can buy one for even less at $180 at:

Orient Ray Raven II Automatic Black Dial Men's Watch FAA02003B9 ...

https://www.amazon.com/Orient-Japanese-Automatic-Stainless-Casual/dp/B01LWNGDB6

I'd say it's worth a shot at that price. Unless you jump up to $500-1,000, I don't think there are too many watches like the Nezumi Diver. However, at those price points, you'll have other watches to consider over the Nezumi as well.

Anyways, when you do get your new watch, you should give us your impressions here. I'm sure we'd all love to see what you get!

Nice pick up! The Saxonia is really something indeed! And more versatile than expected as you said :) Enjoy!

Thank you! It's awesome. It's my first precious metal watch, however, I've been clumsy twice now. I dented a lug earlier in the week and just yesterday, I dropped the watch off of a dinner table and it fell nearly 4 feet onto a concrete floor. The same lug got scraped, scratched, and other parts of the bezel also got scratched. However, I'm really fortunate that A. Lange & Sohne are some of the few watchmakers who offer laser welding and other case restoration as part of their services when I send it back in for maintenance. It still won't deter me from wearing it every day. I love it even with all the scratches, scrapes, dents, and marks now. I'm just impressed how tough it is despite not being a Rolex Submariner, Omega Seamaster, or Hamilton Khaki Field or something.
 

NTGYK

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I totally forgot about the Orient Ray Raven, it probably would suit you better than the Mako and Tritons from Orient. You know what? Here are some good pictures of the Orient Ray Raven:

https://www.longislandwatch.com/Orient_AA02003B_Ray_Raven_II_Dive_Watch_p/aa02003b.htm

However, you can buy one for even less at $180 at:

Orient Ray Raven II Automatic Black Dial Men's Watch FAA02003B9 ...

https://www.amazon.com/Orient-Japanese-Automatic-Stainless-Casual/dp/B01LWNGDB6

I'd say it's worth a shot at that price. Unless you jump up to $500-1,000, I don't think there are too many watches like the Nezumi Diver. However, at those price points, you'll have other watches to consider over the Nezumi as well.

Anyways, when you do get your new watch, you should give us your impressions here. I'm sure we'd all love to see what you get!



Thank you! It's awesome. It's my first precious metal watch, however, I've been clumsy twice now. I dented a lug earlier in the week and just yesterday, I dropped the watch off of a dinner table and it fell nearly 4 feet onto a concrete floor. The same lug got scraped, scratched, and other parts of the bezel also got scratched. However, I'm really fortunate that A. Lange & Sohne are some of the few watchmakers who offer laser welding and other case restoration as part of their services when I send it back in for maintenance. It still won't deter me from wearing it every day. I love it even with all the scratches, scrapes, dents, and marks now. I'm just impressed how tough it is despite not being a Rolex Submariner, Omega Seamaster, or Hamilton Khaki Field or something.
Yeah, the more I look at it, the more I like the Ray Raven 2. Do you guys know anything about how waterproof it is? I'd like it as a beater for vacation and when I go for swims and stuff. Think it'd be good at the beach, swims, pool, and rafting?
 

Tryptobphan

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Yeah, the more I look at it, the more I like the Ray Raven 2. Do you guys know anything about how waterproof it is? I'd like it as a beater for vacation and when I go for swims and stuff. Think it'd be good at the beach, swims, pool, and rafting?

I do not have an Orient Ray Raven, however, I have the Orient Mako. It's quite reliable, keeps time well for the price range, and it even has handwinding, which is really nice. It's also quite water resistant (200m, I believe it's the same as the Nezumi Baleine). If the Ray Raven is anything like the Mako then I think you'll be pleased if you want a reliable, functional, water resistant, and relatively stylish dive watch at this price range. I've taken the Orient Mako into the shower, swimming pool, and gym with me. It's taken quite a beating and still works well and looks relatively good.

Here are some reasons why I love my Orient Mako watch, which it shares some similarities with the Ray Raven II:
  1. Raised/applied Orient Logo at 12 o'clock, not just a printed logo. It's just way classier.
  2. Raised/applied indexes at each of the hour locations, not just printed. Again, it's just classier and adds dimension to the dial.
  3. Pearl/Dot at 12 o'clock on Bezel has lume. It drives me nuts when dive watches don't have lume on the bezel to indicate how much time as elapsed underwater. Do I dive? No, but if a watch is a dive watch then it should have it. The Seiko Sport Five dive watches do not have this, at least the older models don't. Many other dive watches don't either.
  4. Handwinding is in the Orient Mako's and Ray Ravens, which is helpful when you want to wind the watch up after not using it for a while or just giving it some power to run without shaking the watch.
  5. Water Resistant features - No sapphire case back, but it has a nice screw down caseback to ensure water resistance. It also has a screw down crown just like a Rolex Submariner or Omega Seamaster to ensure more water resistance.
  6. Day-Date complication at 3 o'clock position has a black background and white numbers/days. This is unique to the Ray Raven II. Most watches don't have the day-date complication disks with the same color background as the dial color. It's a nice attention to detail.

It's biggest weakness, which it shares with most watches at this price range, is its mineral crystal instead of sapphire glass. However, most watches I've seen under $500 will share this same weakness. Otherwise it's a great watch. I have a Seiko Sport Five dive watch but it isn't nearly as tough as the Orient Mako. I've cracked the bezel of the Seiko Sport Five by accidentally hitting the watch against the wall. I've done similar things with the Orient Mako against doorways but the bezel and watch are fine. So I assume the Orient Ray Raven will be just as tough as the Orient Mako.

With all that said...I actually think if you really want the Nezumi then you shouldn't settle for anything less than what you want. If you know you'll get a substitute watch but won't wear the substitute watch because it's not exactly what you wanted then it doesn't make sense to get the substitute. Instead save up for the one watch you like most. However, if you just want a good watch then you honestly can't go wrong with the Orient watches.

Also, you can try reading reviews and watching reviews of it online. They're helpful.

Orient Ray Raven 2:
https://youtu.be/b6Ekp77s6fc?t=12m22s

Nezumi Baleine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWTCwf22Faw

Just from the Nezumi review above, the Orient Mako/Ray Raven will wear slightly larger on a wrist than the Nezumi Baleine. It also seems that the Nezumi does not have steel straps. So these are things you should take into consideration too. I always get a watch with a steel strap whenever possible and buy leather/Nato straps later. The watches look different, too. From my perspective, the Nezumi Baleine looks more like a vintage inspired watch, however, the Orient Ray Raven looks like a more contemporary dive watch. It's exciting, you should share with us your final decision afterwards.
 
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NTGYK

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I do not have an Orient Ray Raven, however, I have the Orient Mako. It's quite reliable, keeps time well for the price range, and it even has handwinding, which is really nice. It's also quite water resistant (200m, I believe it's the same as the Nezumi Baleine). If the Ray Raven is anything like the Mako then I think you'll be pleased if you want a reliable, functional, water resistant, and relatively stylish dive watch at this price range. I've taken the Orient Mako into the shower, swimming pool, and gym with me. It's taken quite a beating and still works well and looks relatively good.

Here are some reasons why I love my Orient Mako watch, which it shares some similarities with the Ray Raven II:
  1. Raised/applied Orient Logo at 12 o'clock, not just a printed logo. It's just way classier.
  2. Raised/applied indexes at each of the hour locations, not just printed. Again, it's just classier and adds dimension to the dial.
  3. Pearl/Dot at 12 o'clock on Bezel has lume. It drives me nuts when dive watches don't have lume on the bezel to indicate how much time as elapsed underwater. Do I dive? No, but if a watch is a dive watch then it should have it. The Seiko Sport Five dive watches do not have this, at least the older models don't. Many other dive watches don't either.
  4. Handwinding is in the Orient Mako's and Ray Ravens, which is helpful when you want to wind the watch up after not using it for a while or just giving it some power to run without shaking the watch.
  5. Water Resistant features - No sapphire case back, but it has a nice screw down caseback to ensure water resistance. It also has a screw down crown just like a Rolex Submariner or Omega Seamaster to ensure more water resistance.
  6. Day-Date complication at 3 o'clock position has a black background and white numbers/days. This is unique to the Ray Raven II. Most watches don't have the day-date complication disks with the same color background as the dial color. It's a nice attention to detail.

It's biggest weakness, which it shares with most watches at this price range, is its mineral crystal instead of sapphire glass. However, most watches I've seen under $500 will share this same weakness. Otherwise it's a great watch. I have a Seiko Sport Five dive watch but it isn't nearly as tough as the Orient Mako. I've cracked the bezel of the Seiko Sport Five by accidentally hitting the watch against the wall. I've done similar things with the Orient Mako against doorways but the bezel and watch are fine. So I assume the Orient Ray Raven will be just as tough as the Orient Mako.

With all that said...I actually think if you really want the Nezumi then you shouldn't settle for anything less than what you want. If you know you'll get a substitute watch but won't wear the substitute watch because it's not exactly what you wanted then it doesn't make sense to get the substitute. Instead save up for the one watch you like most. However, if you just want a good watch then you honestly can't go wrong with the Orient watches.

Also, you can try reading reviews and watching reviews of it online. They're helpful.

Orient Ray Raven 2:
https://youtu.be/b6Ekp77s6fc?t=12m22s

Nezumi Baleine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWTCwf22Faw

Just from the Nezumi review above, the Orient Mako/Ray Raven will wear slightly larger on a wrist than the Nezumi Baleine. It also seems that the Nezumi does not have steel straps. So these are things you should take into consideration too. I always get a watch with a steel strap whenever possible and buy leather/Nato straps later. The watches look different, too. From my perspective, the Nezumi Baleine looks more like a vintage inspired watch, however, the Orient Ray Raven looks like a more contemporary dive watch. It's exciting, you should share with us your final decision afterwards.
Thanks man, I appreciate the advice!

And now the SKX007 is growing on me... Why is this decision so hard??
 

EnronERA

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The only thing about those dark finished watches like the Ray Raven II, the finish will wear quickly.
 

EnronERA

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Oct 25, 2017
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it doesn't "fade", since its an applied coating, but it will scratch and rub through after a while exposing the steel underneath. Most people who like PVD coated watches just accept it and enjoy it as "patina and character".

And when i say it will scratch and rub off, i mean it does that fairly quickly. if you wear it daily during all waking hours, this will start happening in a matter of months, not years.

it starts happening on the bracelet first, as that is what comes into contact with desks/laptops/chairs anything you rest your wrist on. The watch head will wear eventually, especially where it rubs your wrist, but not nearly as quickly as the bracelet does.