Wristwatches |OT| Keeping time with class

BeforeU · Mar 2, 2019

so I have already tried it in store and i am interested in this specific model, its lot cheaper if I buy it online

https://www.chrono24.com/omega/spee...onal-chronograph-black-steel-4--id8341679.htm

what do you guys think? any trusted site i can use? or i shouldn't buy online

Deleted member 16516 · Mar 2, 2019

BeforeU said:
so I have already tried it in store and i am interested in this specific model, its lot cheaper if I buy it online

https://www.chrono24.com/omega/spee...onal-chronograph-black-steel-4--id8341679.htm

what do you guys think? any trusted site i can use? or i shouldn't buy online

A trusted seller on Chrono24 with plenty of positive reviews is a good start.

Would like to see more images of the watch itself from less obvious angles and set to a time of your choosing just to be sure that they're not just stock images of a Speedy and that they actually have it in their inventory. Contact them and request this. It's always better to put that extra effort in when spending money on a luxury watch.

I'd do further research on the seller as well, just to be sure.

Nothing wrong with buying online as long as you're prudent and thorough.

If I may ask, any reason why you're not buying from an Omega Boutique?

BeforeU · Mar 2, 2019

Edmond Dantès said:
A trusted seller on Chrono24 with plenty of positive reviews is a good start.

Would like to see more images of the watch itself from less obvious angles and set to a time of your choosing just to be sure that they're not just stock images of a Speedy and that they actually have it in their inventory. Contact them and request this. It's always better to put that extra effort in when spending money on a luxury watch.

I'd do further research on the seller as well, just to be sure.

Nothing wrong with buying online as long as you're prudent and thorough.

If I may ask, any reason why you're not buying from an Omega Boutique?

ahh thanks, will do. Well its almost $1500 more expensive here in Canada if i buy it from a store. My sister lives in Michigan so i was just going to ship it to her place. I haven't checked the price at any boutique in states, i should do that actually

Hopfrog · Mar 2, 2019

Fascinating thread. I dipped into the waters a couple of years ago with an Orient Bambino 2nd gen. Automatic, the cream dial and blue hands version. Currently looking at something that would work as my daily wear and I really like the look of the Hamilton Khaki Field Mechanical. Thoughts?

dallow_bg · Mar 2, 2019

BeforeU said:
so I have already tried it in store and i am interested in this specific model, its lot cheaper if I buy it online

https://www.chrono24.com/omega/spee...onal-chronograph-black-steel-4--id8341679.htm

what do you guys think? any trusted site i can use? or i shouldn't buy online

BeforeU said:
ahh thanks, will do. Well its almost $1500 more expensive here in Canada if i buy it from a store. My sister lives in Michigan so i was just going to ship it to her place. I haven't checked the price at any boutique in states, i should do that actually

You're not going to find much cheaper (if at all) at an AD.
So you want the 006 with the Sapphire instead of 005 with the Hesalite crystal?
If you're going to go for a new watch from the gray market. I'd go with Jomashop for the Speedmaster.
It's currently on sale for 3895 for the 006 and 3875 for the 005. No tax and no shipping fee for Michigan.

Deleted member 16516 · Mar 2, 2019

Hopfrog said:
Fascinating thread. I dipped into the waters a couple of years ago with an Orient Bambino 2nd gen. Automatic, the cream dial and blue hands version. Currently looking at something that would work as my daily wear and I really like the look of the Hamilton Khaki Field Mechanical. Thoughts?

Hamilton are a reputable brand, and their Khaki Field range of watches are well built, well spec'd and well regarded in the horological world.

In that price range, you can't do much better for a daily beater.

Go for it. But as I said above to BeforeU, do plenty of research before you buy.

BeforeU · Mar 2, 2019

dallow_bg said:
You're not going to find much cheaper (if at all) at an AD.
So you want the 006 with the Sapphire instead of 005 with the Hesalite crystal?
If you're going to go for a new watch from the gray market. I'd go with Jomashop for the Speedmaster.
It's currently on sale for 3895 for the 006 and 3875 for the 005. No tax and no shipping fee for Michigan.

correct, looks like Sapphire will take more everyday beating than hesalite. Also that exposed back is very appealing on sapphire model.
and the $3895 price is for pre-owned. New one is $4475 on Jomashop

dallow_bg · Mar 2, 2019

BeforeU said:
correct, looks like Sapphire will take more everyday beating than hesalite. Also that exposed back is very appealing on sapphire model.
and the $3895 price is for pre-owned. New one is $4475 on Jomashop

Ah my mistake. I missed that!

erpg · Mar 2, 2019

dallow_bg said:
Cheaper than this? It's pretty much MSRP price for Japan, but it's free shipping to US and Canada.
http://www.japan-onlinestore.com/SBDC073

Thanks!

Glad this ended up being a bit more difficult than I expected though. Now I'm eyeing the blue alpinist Hodinkee put out. Shame I missed out on the first run of it.

These sub-1000$ Seikos sometimes make me feel like I should sell my Explorer.

BeforeU · Mar 3, 2019

are self-winding less reliabe for long run? still debating if i should get Speedmaster automatic or self-winding

Deleted member 16516 · Mar 3, 2019

BeforeU said:
are self-winding less reliabe for long run? still debating if i should get Speedmaster automatic or self-winding

The biggest issue for a manual wound watch is crown wear due to the winding process, but for a Speedy and with Omega's warranty, it really isn't a significant issue. The Speedmaster been so ubiquitous, means you can get most issues fixed at a reputable watch repair shop for a fraction of the price of a full service from Omega.

Apart from the obvious difference between the 1861 (manual) and 1863 (automatic) movements, that been the rotor, there's negligible difference between them (a different material used for the Delrin brake is one such difference).

In the end, you'll be fine with both watches, and it really does come down to what you want; an exhibition caseback, sapphire crystal and not having to wind the watch daily versus a non-exhibtion caseback, Hesalite crystal and the pleasure of winding your watch on a daily basis.

BeforeU · Mar 4, 2019

Edmond Dantès said:
The biggest issue for a manual wound watch is crown wear due to the winding process, but for a Speedy and with Omega's warranty, it really isn't a significant issue. The Speedmaster been so ubiquitous, means you can get most issues fixed at a reputable watch repair shop for a fraction of the price of a full service from Omega.

Apart from the obvious difference between the 1861 (manual) and 1863 (automatic) movements, that been the rotor, there's negligible difference between them (a different material used for the Delrin brake is one such difference).

In the end, you'll be fine with both watches, and it really does come down to what you want; an exhibition caseback, sapphire crystal and not having to wind the watch daily versus a non-exhibtion caseback, Hesalite crystal and the pleasure of winding your watch on a daily basis.

wait what? both 1863 and 1861 are manual wind

Hesemonni · Mar 4, 2019

BeforeU said:
are self-winding less reliabe for long run? still debating if i should get Speedmaster automatic or self-winding

There's little to complain on reliability side of things really. I had a manual wound watch once and the novelty of having to wind the watch every now and then wore of pretty quickly. Automatics are so care free in the sense that if you just move a little bit it the rotor is moving and you're OK on power reserve. Most of the automatic movements also have the ability to hand wind so there's also that.

Deleted member 16516 · Mar 4, 2019

BeforeU said:
wait what? both 1863 and 1861 are manual wind

My mistake, could confused with the Speedy reduced that was mentioned earlier in the thread.

esseesse · Mar 5, 2019

Arrived on Friday plus Nato Strap.

Already getting a lot of compliments, people think its a very expensive watch!
So far so good, my current daily beater.

Cloud-Hidden · Mar 13, 2019

Okay. I just found this thread, and I haven't owned a watch since I rocked the color-changing face Fossil watch as a teenager.

I have pretty tiny wrists, and I feel like many of the watches I see shared here might look ridiculous on my wrist. My hands are totally average, and when I wrap my thumb and middle finger around my wrist, the center of my thumb pad is touching the cutical of my middle finger nail.

Yeah... My wrists are embarrassingly dainty.

What might be a good style, brand, or model to look into for a mid-range, everyday wear? I could have Googled 'best watches for small wrists,' but I've enjoyed this thread so much, I wanted to hear what you guys recommend. Thanks!

Hesemonni · Mar 13, 2019

Cloud-Hidden said:
What might be a good style, brand, or model to look into for a mid-range, everyday wear? I could have Googled 'best watches for small wrists,' but I've enjoyed this thread so much, I wanted to hear what you guys recommend. Thanks!

You pretty much answered your own question, put in "best watches for small wirsts" for example in YouTube and you'll get a ton of videos about it.

Also, humour us and measure the circumference of your wrist for people to give you a better idea. For example, I have a 6.75" wrist which I feel is pretty miniscule and I go for watches with a lug to lug distance of 48mm max. Bigger than those look silly on me.

Currently sporting a Seiko SKX007 which I absolutely adore.

ekimneems · Mar 13, 2019

Cloud-Hidden said:
Okay. I just found this thread, and I haven't owned a watch since I rocked the color-changing face Fossil watch as a teenager.

I have pretty tiny wrists, and I feel like many of the watches I see shared here might look ridiculous on my wrist. My hands are totally average, and when I wrap my thumb and middle finger around my wrist, the center of my thumb pad is touching the cutical of my middle finger nail.

Yeah... My wrists are embarrassingly dainty.

What might be a good style, brand, or model to look into for a mid-range, everyday wear? I could have Googled 'best watches for small wrists,' but I've enjoyed this thread so much, I wanted to hear what you guys recommend. Thanks!

Many brands have smaller models. I think you simply need to think case size. Think in the 36-39mm range in general unless your wrists are really really small. 36mm is a safe bet.

For mid-range brands that are small wrist friendly, I highly recommend Nomos

LeroyPantwether · Mar 14, 2019

I have 6-6.25 inch wrist . Recently picked up a Tudor Heritage Black Bay 36 . Fit is perfect (how do i post pics ) . Get that .

Other options for small everyday watches . Oyster perpetual , Tudor 1926 , omega seamaster midsize , nomos club (long lugs ) , iwc makes a little 36mm too .

Cheaper midsize options

Oris , longines , junghans , stowa all have a ton of small watches

For inexpensive small watches seiko 5 has a ton of 37mm that can be had for less than 150 .

Radec · Mar 24, 2019

So, what timepieces do you guys like from this year's Baselworld ?

Deleted member 16516 · Mar 24, 2019

Radec said:
So, what timepieces do you guys like from this year's Baselworld ?

It certainly felt like a transitional Baselworld (and the less said about Rolex and Tudor's offerings the better), but there were some nice releases. Three that stood out for me were:

The Zenith Defy Inventor (the watch of the show on a technical level):

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Patek Philippe Calatrava Weekly Calendar:

Clean Ocean Limited Edition:

this_guy · Mar 24, 2019

Radec said:
So, what timepieces do you guys like from this year's Baselworld ?

The Nomos sport models look great. Just wish they were smaller in Diameter (they have 42 mm cases) since Nomos usually wears large.

BoosterDuck · Mar 25, 2019

what's the haps chaps

The polish on this is insane, look at how reflective it is off everything.
It feels great to wear though, beefy and solid.

Tryptobphan · Mar 26, 2019

Cloud-Hidden said:
Okay. I just found this thread, and I haven't owned a watch since I rocked the color-changing face Fossil watch as a teenager.

What might be a good style, brand, or model to look into for a mid-range, everyday wear? I could have Googled 'best watches for small wrists,' but I've enjoyed this thread so much, I wanted to hear what you guys recommend. Thanks!

I think if your wrists are relatively small (e.g. 6-6.5"), then I would highly recommend Nomos. They're my favorite watchmakers with some smaller case diameters such as the Campus Club models, Orion models, etc. The big measurement you want to pay attention to is the "lug to lug" distance (from one end of the watch case to the other side, basically where the straps are connected to each end of the case). I would try to keep it under 49mm. My wrist size is 6.5" and I try to keep every lug to lug for sport watches (steel watches) under 49mm lug to lug. For dress watches, I try to keep it under 47mm lug to lug. I don't like oversized watches so that's what I prefer as I collect more watches.

Just try going to an authorized dealer at a mall or some watch sellers at department stores to try some watches on. It's a fun time.

@ Boosterduck - Looking sharp. I haven't seen the newer models in person yet. Is it comfortable?

Radec · Mar 27, 2019

Dat Black Bay Bronze..

Why it had to be 43mm..

Spuck- · Mar 27, 2019

The only watch you'll ever need.

-Keeps better time than any mechanical watch ever will.
-Design classic
-Affordable for literally anyone

Deleted member 16516 · Mar 27, 2019

Spuck- said:
The only watch you'll ever need.

-Keeps better time than any mechanical watch ever will.
-Design classic
-Affordable for literally anyone

Can't disagree with any of your points really, but horology is far more than just good timekeeping and simple aesthetics. To many it's an art form, just like cars are to others.

Tryptobphan · Mar 27, 2019

Edmond Dantès said:
Can't disagree with any of your points really, but horology is far more than just good timekeeping and simple aesthetics. To many it's an art form, just like cars are to others.

Totally agreed with everything you just said. It's funny because I have that same exact Casio as well as part of my collection.

Waffle-Stomper · Mar 27, 2019

There's just something so great about the feeling of a watch being a part of you. Winders aside it needs you to keep on ticking and you to keep it alive. I love my sinn ux hydro since it's very aesthetically appealing, but being that it's a quartz I can sometimes feel that disconnect.

Plus the ticking of my nomos metro and zodiac seawolf might be my favorite sound(s) in the world.

(I also own a f-91w that I sometimes wear to theme parks)

Side note: even though many were disappointed by the showing, my favorite of baselworld was the rolex Batman with the jubilee braclet. Runner up. The zodiac gmt re-releases were nice too

nitewulf · Mar 27, 2019

Spuck- said:
The only watch you'll ever need.

-Keeps better time than any mechanical watch ever will.
-Design classic
-Affordable for literally anyone

I have the metallic silver variation of that. Along with a Nomos. It's more about having a sense of style and appreciation of craft.

BoosterDuck · Mar 27, 2019

Tryptobphan said:
@ Boosterduck - Looking sharp. I haven't seen the newer models in person yet. Is it comfortable?

the case is around 44mm at ~90 grams so it's practically subtle on my wrist
and the premium strap feels like I'm wearing a pillow

this watch rules because it's basically a digital Seiko Turtle/Timex Weekender

hockeypuck · Mar 27, 2019

Spuck- said:
The only watch you'll ever need.

-Keeps better time than any mechanical watch ever will.
-Design classic
-Affordable for literally anyone

We know. We're in the hobby for its (predominantly) male-oriented jewelry. I too have the F-91W as part of my collection. I wore it for six years straight, before I started collecting.

Randomly Generated · Mar 28, 2019

Is the Timex Weekender as insanely loud as people online say? I really like the look but I'm worried about its reputation that you can hear the ticking across the room.

hockeypuck · Mar 28, 2019

Randomly Generated said:
Is the Timex Weekender as insanely loud as people online say? I really like the look but I'm worried about its reputation that you can hear the ticking across the room.

It's loud. It befits its moniker. I wouldn't wear it in a quiet office, but I do wear mine on some weekends.

NTGYK · Mar 29, 2019

My next watch purchase is gonna be a Sinn 104 St Sa W (the white dial version). It looks sexy af but nowhere to be found in Vancouver so I'd have to take a gamble in buying it online

Deleted member 15428 · Mar 29, 2019

Edmond Dantès said:
It certainly felt like a transitional Baselworld (and the less said about Rolex and Tudor's offerings the better)

Why?

Deleted member 16516 · Mar 29, 2019

Birdseye said:
Why?

Run of the mill for Rolex and uninspired by Tudor who seem to be losing the momentum (by becoming more than just 'junior Rolex') they've been gaining these past few years.

The Black Bay P01, although unique, probably should have been left as an unused prototype design.

Randomly Generated · Mar 29, 2019

hockeypuck said:
It's loud. It befits its moniker. I wouldn't wear it in a quiet office, but I do wear mine on some weekends.

So would it be bad to wear in a theatre or study hall? I'm not sure I want it if it's going to annoy other people.

hockeypuck · Mar 29, 2019

Randomly Generated said:
So would it be bad to wear in a theatre or study hall? I'm not sure I want it if it's going to annoy other people.

I wouldn't wear the Weekender in those settings.

Randomly Generated · Mar 29, 2019

hockeypuck said:
I wouldn't wear the Weekender in those settings.

Gah. Thanks for the info. I'll have to give this some more thought.

NTGYK · Mar 30, 2019

Helgray Le Mans in Rose Gold with a leather tan NATO strap. Was experimenting with my S10 camera while at a stop light.

Hesemonni · Mar 30, 2019

Seiko Arnie re-issue <3

Too bad it seems they made it ridiculously big (apparently ~48mm) and it's covered it oversized pushers. But damn, if it wouldn't be cool to wear a similar watch Arnold wore in Predator and Commando :P

hockeypuck · Apr 4, 2019

WIS people, lend me your expertise.

I am interested in getting a mechanical GMT/world timer watch. It was annoying to constantly go through the phone sub menus just to know the time back home and a GMT complication is one I'll actually use. Here are my preferences:

1. Diameter has to be 40 mm or less. Even better if 39 or 38.
2. In-house caliber. I have enough ETA watches.

3. Prefer a date complication included, but not a strict requirement like the above two.

I have come up with 3 choices in my cursory search, and was wondering if other people can recommend other choices—

1. Rolex GMT Master II. Great watch of course, just too bad it's not easily available unless I pay 2X retail. Argh. The main reason why I'm put off from Rolex in general.

2. Nomos Zurich. No date complication, but otherwise works for me.

3. One of the Grand Seiko SBJM or SBGJ models.

I really like designs like the Glashutte Original Senator or Rolex Skydweller, but I'm sticking to my case diameter restriction.

Briareos · Apr 4, 2019

hockeypuck said:
2. Nomos Zurich. No date complication, but otherwise works for me.

In what sense is the subdial on the Zurich not a date complication?

I haven't worn any of your suggestions, unfortunately. I do have a GS SBGA211 and that unsurprisingly makes me partial to the SBGN005, which looks like it also fits your constraints (39mm). Otherwise the Zurich looks pretty damn stunning.

hockeypuck · Apr 4, 2019

BriareosGAF said:
In what sense is the subdial on the Zurich not a date complication?

Are you talking about the 3 o'clock subdial? I'm pretty sure that's the 24h GMT for home time. Even has a home icon next to it.

SBGN, while also a stunner, is a quartz model.
Spring Drive, yes. Hell yes.
Quartz, ummm, backburner for now.

Hopfrog · Apr 4, 2019

What are everyone's thoughts on the grey market, specifically Amazon? I am pretty set on picking up the Hamilton Khaki Field Mechanical, and I can get it for around $370 from an Amazon seller. The seller gets good ratings, over 97% satisfaction with several thousand ratings, and it is significantly cheaper than going through an AD. Has anyone bought from Amazon, and if so how was your experience?

hockeypuck · Apr 4, 2019

Hopfrog said:
What are everyone's thoughts on the grey market, specifically Amazon? I am pretty set on picking up the Hamilton Khaki Field Mechanical, and I can get it for around $370 from an Amazon seller. The seller gets good ratings, over 97% satisfaction with several thousand ratings, and it is significantly cheaper than going through an AD. Has anyone bought from Amazon, and if so how was your experience?

If the watch is one I care about servicing, I'll get it through an AD. Everything else, gray market is fair game.

Briareos · Apr 5, 2019

hockeypuck said:
Are you talking about the 3 o'clock subdial? I'm pretty sure that's the 24h GMT for home time. Even has a home icon next to it.

Ah, yes, you're right, I was looking at the detail pics which didn't show it ending at 24.

SBGN, while also a stunner, is a quartz model.
Spring Drive, yes. Hell yes.
Quartz, ummm, backburner for now.

Yeah, I had a few of the GS up and it's a pity that one is quartz. I actually don't quite understand the appeal of quartz at all; even the Spring Drive is sort of overly fussy for me but it makes up for it with the continuous sweep second hand (via the braking mechanism).

sixteen-bit · Apr 7, 2019

Any Gundam stans out there? I know they're not as tasteful as that Ultraman Speedy but I love these, lol.

https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-n...s-40th-anniversary-with-limited-sport-watches

kyle mechlachlan · Apr 7, 2019

sixteen-bit said:
Any Gundam stans out there? I know they're not as tasteful as that Ultraman Speedy but I love these, lol.

https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-n...s-40th-anniversary-with-limited-sport-watches

Would love to get the RX-78-2 but way too much for me lmao

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