Which is funny because in multiple animated appearances (including JLU), Superman and Batman's no-kill codes clearly do not extend to hostile aliens.
I'm not here to write fan fiction. Just saying that I would like kid spider-man not to kill, and that the movie could have done that if they wanted to.modoversus
that tells me nothing. how is peter going to drop the infinity gauntlet to hand to hand combat dozens of swarming outriders with enough care as to not kill them?
you can't just pick and choose a single moment in this climactic battle that you want to nitpick and rewrite, it's part of an entire sequence of events that leaves Peter guarding the gauntlet from an overwhelming force of brutal killer alien dogs and not a lot of options. he can't rely on anyone else there, he can't put down the gauntlet, he has to get it to its destination immediately before he gets mauled and shredded to death within literal seconds, which would result in the entire universe being murdered
"just knock them out" isn't good writing
Yeah, pretty much.Like, he's Spider-Man dude, he can just do Spider-Man stuff. He can like, dodge them and shoot webs and swing away with some cool CG and a well shot action sequence.
If he didn't use instant kill and somehow got away just using his wit and powers, and someone posted a thread saying "how come Spider-Man didn't use his fancy instant kill mode in Endgame" we would rightly be laughing at them because that's a "why aren't the other Avengers helping" lazy-ass criticism.
You can put Spidey in a situation where he's clearly up against the wall without him shredding dudes with his super suit. That's usually how it goes.
And in the new 52 Justice League comic's first arc they all murdered the hell out of some parademons.
I think Stark is basically who Reed Richards is in the comics - a genius that teeters dangerously close to that edge, held back only by the woman he loves. I mean, Stark made a fortune designing and selling weapons to the highest bidder. When he realised just who he was selling those weapons to, he didn't stop making the weapons - he just kept them for himself.
Wonder Woman's is at her best when she fights with compassion, not violence.
from what we saw in Infinity War, they're essentially mindless beasts
Don't people take the same issue with Resetera's beloved Man of Steel? The bad guy wanted to destroy Earth (or conquer it? whatever) and he couldn't be impeded (as strong as Superman) nor be convinced. Superman had to kill him.
his defense is such bullshit too
Yeah it makes no sense to throw stones at Peter, but the vaporizing thing always bugged meTo be honest, much like killing Zod, once you ignore the comic writers meta "no kill" rule it makes perfect justified sense in universe. Peter wouldn't think twice about killing those things, no sane human would. And nothing has been established in these films to say he'd be incapable or agaisnt it.
I personally have more of an issue with how Vulture accidently vaporised that one guy in Homecoming and it just gets litteraly shrugged off and ignored throughout the rest of the movie as it tries to convince us Toome's just a hard done by honestman trying to make ends meet.
Yes, there's good stuff in there. Overall, it's one of the better runs on Spider-Man because he is actually a pretty good writer. I just don't agree with his take on Spider-Man 100% of the time.
Right?!?his defense is such bullshit too
"Peter would come up with a very Peter Parker way out of the situation, because he's Peter Parker!" - in what amount of time? he had literal seconds to react before being mauled to death
"Or he'd get beat up and get back up!" - no he wouldn't, hence the "being mauled to death" bit
you'll get a variety of answers as Slott seems to illicit a deep seething rage within a certain portion of the spider man fandom
It’s a fucking war for existence, not a bank robbery. What good would knocking out some aliens do?
I really liked his run a lot much better than the current series by Nick Spencer.
Imagine thinking that stabbing large CGI bugs vs "knocking them out" is the measure of well-written fiction.
Yeah, like when a dangerous bug is in your way and you have shoes on. Not much of a moral dilemma to be honest.
Wade only has one rule in killing:
Examples? Uncanny X-Force doesn't count. Wade takes issue with Phantomex killing a child.
This is how I saw its inclusion in the suit. If things got too hairy for Peter, who is still a kid, Tony would make sure he's well protected at any cost.
I actually can't think of a specific example but it's been a while since I've read Deadpool stuff. Maybe I'm thinking about his appearances on cartoons, which makes a lot more sense.
It gets worse, if that's what you're asking.
the only cartoon deadpool appearances I'm familiar with are the Hulk vs Wolverine movie where he's 100% deadpool, getting chopped to pieces and stuff
It's especially funny when you view these no-kill rules and the way they're broken. In the DC TV Universe, Barry Allen has a strict no-kill rule and will go out of his way to spare even his most dangerous enemies, sometimes forcing his friends to finish them off for him because he's too chickenshit to end things when they need to end.
Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what's right.Won't someone think of the murderous hellhounds coming at Peter so their master can kill literally everyone in the universe? My personal morals would go out the window too when I'm up against someone who wants everything dead. Peter had the gauntlet in that moment, he'd be stupid not to try everything.
This is one thing that sucks about Spidey in the MCU. In so many ways he ends up as Tony's puppet. To the point where they literally rip his autonomy away from him time and time again. Sure he's young but he chose to be out there facing down gunfire and shit all on his own without anyone holding his hand. He's as capable as any Avenger.
#JusticeForMawOh, come on. It's like he wanted to nitpick just so he could act like he knows how to write Spider-Man better.
Thanos's dogs are mindless monsters. Nobody's gonna lose any sleep if Peter kills some of them. He also helped Iron-Man kill Ebony Maw in Infinity War, and I don't see anyone complaining about that.
Tony killed Ebony Maw twice.
I haven't seen endgame but I think Slott makes an important point. People love to put superheroes who aren't killers in situations where it's impossible for them not to kill and then say: "now what?" Those type of questions have never been interesting as far as i'm concerned.