I used to think the Trump shit was going to be a good HBO movie, but it really has to be a 6 season series.
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WSJ: Key players in Ukraine scandal & Giuliani associates, Lev Parnas & Igor Fruman, arrested on criminal charges of violating campaign finance rules
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Reuters says they were going to fly to Vienna. Now maybe that was a convenient flight out of the country and they were going somewhere after that, or maybe it has something to do with Dmytro Firtash, who's been holed up in Austria fighting extradition to the US and is tied up in this mess somehow.
As someone already mentioned it would be nice to know when they bought those 1-way tickets.
The fact they met with Ghouliani the afternoon of the day they tried to flee tells me Ghouliani heard from his source inside the SDNY and then relayed that info to these two guys.
The fact they met with Ghouliani the afternoon of the day they tried to flee tells me Ghouliani heard from his source inside the SDNY and then relayed that info to these two guys.
House Democrats issue subpoenas for two indicted Giuliani associates
Never mind, they're already under arrest.
Never mind, they're already under arrest.
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Nice, not wasting time fucking around for Barr to keep it quiet. Fuck you Barr.
Its certainly looking like Russia had its tendrils wrapped around as many people as they could
I mean there is so much right? Russian spies, troll farms, bribes and backdoor deals with info warfare firms and anarchist propaganda outlets.
And then these money launderer and bribers.
It makes my head spin at the sheer amount of fuckery they have invested in
Executive branch, 1 supreme court justice, and my guess is a dozen congressmen and senators, but more senators than congressmen because the KGB isn't dumb about this they know they need to hold the Senate to break checks and balances.
Giuliani associates Fruman and Parnas were arrested at Dulles, where they were trying to flee to Vienna, current home of Dmytro FIRTASH, whose business partner, Lyovochkin, funneled money to Trump's inaugural and was given Trump polling data by Manafort.
You're right. This story of this administration has had more twist and turns than a soap opera.
I'm so suspicious about these charges, because the SNDY is run by a stalwart Trump appointee. Why would the GOP do this to themselves?
I wonder if they are just making these guys the fall guys in some way to give cover to the GOP members who actually received the funds or if this investigation is designed to prevent Congress from investigating or something.
Ultimately, I am worried that this very, very big scandal won't see the full extent of justice in the hands of this administration.
I wonder if they are just making these guys the fall guys in some way to give cover to the GOP members who actually received the funds or if this investigation is designed to prevent Congress from investigating or something.
Ultimately, I am worried that this very, very big scandal won't see the full extent of justice in the hands of this administration.
I've been doing that for years. Especially any with dots. "Dot, dot, dot."
"DO SOMETHING!"
Lunch with Rudy and then they immediately try to flee the country.
I wonder what they talked about.
Hey dumbasses, maybe don't have lunch at Trump Hotel in WASHINGTON FUCKING DC RIGHT BEFORE FLEEING THE COUNTRY.
These people clearly don't understand secrecy.
These people clearly don't understand secrecy.
US prosecutors were not intending to unseal the indictment against Giuliani associates Fruman and Parnas and 2 others [Kukushkin and Correia] Thursday, but their hand was forced when Fruman and Parnas attempted to flee the country.
That somewhat explains why this would be made so public, given how damaging it is to the GOP.
That somewhat explains why this would be made so public, given how damaging it is to the GOP.
Just wanted to share this excellent Reddit comment that ties the arrests into the two-act structure of the Ukraine scandal in a way I hadn't fully grasped till now.
tl;dr: Trump/Giuliani strike deal with corrupt Ukraine prosecutor Lutsenko to fire Ambassador Yovanovitch (who had been publicly slagging his corruption) in exchange for manufactured Biden dirt. But then Zelensky is elected president on an anti-corruption platform and fires Lutsenko. So Trump/Giuliani change gears and turn the quid-pro-quo into military assistance for Zelensky. And now the bagmen that helped facilitate all these dirty deals just got arrested trying to flee the country.
tl;dr: Trump/Giuliani strike deal with corrupt Ukraine prosecutor Lutsenko to fire Ambassador Yovanovitch (who had been publicly slagging his corruption) in exchange for manufactured Biden dirt. But then Zelensky is elected president on an anti-corruption platform and fires Lutsenko. So Trump/Giuliani change gears and turn the quid-pro-quo into military assistance for Zelensky. And now the bagmen that helped facilitate all these dirty deals just got arrested trying to flee the country.
You can only delay for so long. If it ever came out they knew they were under investigation and yet managed to flee the country, that would look awful.
Lmao, I didnt realize there was a quid pro quo before the quid pro quo that the impeachment is about.
I think you're absolutely right, the whole rotten thing is corrupt (and I'm sure there's some dirty Democrats in there too)
Can't see the link, is this a theory or hard fact? As in, there's evidence Lutsenko made this deal?
Yeah, it all sounds plausible, but the absolute last thing we need to be doing propagating theories as hard fact. We have enough problems with truth and facts as it is.
My money is on Rudi giving the tickets to them at that dinner
Here's a decoded link to that Reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/c...read_two_giuliani_associates_tied_to/f36yyll/
I'm confused -- what's wrong with my Reddit link? I did a straight copy-paste, it works on my end, and the URL is the same as yours.
this is what it looks like when i click the link
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http://internal/tab?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2Fpolitics%2Fcomments%2Fdfz6ta%2Fmegathread_two_giuliani_associates_tied_to%2Ff36yyll%2F&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.resetera.com%2Fthreads%2Fwsj-key-players-in-ukraine-scandal-giuliani-associates-lev-parnas-igor-fruman-arrested-on-criminal-charges-of-violating-campaign-finance-rules.146165%2Fpage-3&target=_blankIt's showing up as:
Which some browsers can't interpret.
Why would you arrest the guy that is leaving you car size cookie crumbs to follow?
His subpoena due date is the 15th I believe, so I wouldn't expect anything until at least then. And these 2 guys were arrested because they were fleeing the country. There's probably more arrests planned, but they forced their hand.
Welp...they'll be gone within an hour of bail. (if they're let completely free)
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So they aren't completely free. Still a stupid risk.
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That's insane.
Slightly less insane.
But why, what the fuck?
Is it required that criminals have bail posted?