WSJ: Nintendo shifts part of production from China to SEA, and starts production for two new Switch SKUs

Pancakes R Us

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Oct 27, 2017
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I don't believe s*** unless Nintendo announces it.
This discussion about a revision is going on for a long while now, first it was summer then it changed to "wait for E3" now that has passed they are saying supply chain has changed and production is started...........

I'll say it again I don't believe s*** unless Nintendo announces it.

(Buying Pro version if it ever happens btw.)
Summer hasn’t even started, mate. At least in the west.

Also, don’t believe everything Nintendo says. They’ll deny something and then launch it soon after, haha. Also, I remember on GAF people were adamant Switch wasn’t gonna be a hybrid because of what Nintendo said previously...and guess what happened there? Basically, I’m saying product chain can still start now for a summer (July onwards) launch.
 

zakatana

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From the beginning, I've been a believer that the Switch would be an iterative concept; hence, after the Switch pro, a Super Switch pro would follow in 2023 and games would stop at that point to be compatible with the OG Switch (except for minor and less ambitious titles) but the Switch pro will be forward compatible with the next iteration. And so on for 10 years.
I think I will skip the Switch pro, and will by the following iteration in 2023. If everything happens like I imagine it will.
 

Ephonk

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Oct 25, 2017
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If it isn't more powerful than the OG then I don't see many reasons for it to exist (unless it's a lot cheaper to manufacture). If it is more powerful, why not just call it Switch 2?
Because if it's 25-30% more powerful and usses less battery, that's is enough to make it a "new 3ds" like version and get all those dynamic resolution games looking just a bit better and give them a stable framerate, while it isn't enough to call it "switch 2" where you would expect a bigger gap and where calling it "2" will only confuse customers.
 

HardRojo

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Oct 25, 2017
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Switch Pro please be real! Give me that sweet improved docked performance! The better handheld performance would just be a bonus for me.
 

Peltz

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Oct 26, 2017
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Where there's smoke, there's fire. Wonder *if* there's a Pro version if that recent BotW2 reveal was running on that.

EDIT: Although they did plenty of early bullshots with BotW in the years leading up to its release so I guess I shouldn't put too much thought into it. Just thought the BotW2 reveal had some better than previous lighting it seemed.
It was similar to the original game’s lighting. I’m replaying through it now on hard mode. The lighting was just as phenomenal.
 

SuperL

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I could understand skepticism if we were talking about rumors from some small video game website or 4Chan or a Twitter rumor monger or a youtuber.

But WSJ, Bloomberg, Nikkei, and Eurogamer are all major outlets who have reported on this. I'm not sure why anyone would believe all of these outlets are wrong about revisions coming.
Can't speak for the others, but Eurogamer has been wrong often enough to not earn the benefit of the doubt.
 

maxx720

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I may be more open to the switch now but I'm hoping for better specs and a better feel in the hand for me. I tried Zelda on my sons switch but I gave up in frustration after a while. It just wasn't comfortable for me to play with.
 

chocnut

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Oct 27, 2017
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Uh... they’re just about the most reputable paper out there when it comes to business and finance.
They were. The longer this goes on the more right I am that they straight up lied. Been saying from the start.

It’s not true and they need to be condemned for putting it out when it’s not true. Don’t care how prestigious they are.

And I have a good idea why they did it too (not just for clicks).
 
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They were. The longer this goes on the more right I am that they straight up lied. Been saying from the start.

It’s not true and they need to be condemned for putting it out when it’s not true. Don’t care how prestigious they are.

And I have a good idea why they did it too (not just for clicks).
Do you have any evidence besides flimsy claims about dates and a weird personal vendetta?
 

chocnut

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Do you have any evidence besides flimsy claims about dates and a weird personal vendetta?
The evidence is e3 coming and going without the products being implied even in gameplay footage for far future games and the fact that it would be contrary to the design principles of the switch itself to change direction and have a mobile only switch.

Where’s your evidence that I’m wrong?
 

Instro

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Oct 25, 2017
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And in the meantime people are holding off buying.
What people..? The small percentage of super fans who are plugged into Nintendo rumors who don't already have a Switch...? Anyone holding off for a revision were doing so because they expected a revision from the get go, because that has been Nintendo's normal practice for decades.
 

Shoichi

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Since Emily posted back on pg 4 in a way of me thinking these rumors are real...I’m in for at least a smaller sku Switch. Then I can have some fun with my launch Switch
 
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The evidence is e3 coming and going without the products being implied even in gameplay footage for far future games and the fact that it would be contrary to the design principles of the switch itself to change direction and have a mobile only switch.

Where’s your evidence that I’m wrong?
That several reputed insiders including Emily and WSJ have said it is? That Nintendo specifically said they wouldn't be discussing new hardware at E3. That Nintendo often have directs after an E3 and announce more things there.
 

skittzo0413

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The evidence is e3 coming and going without the products being implied even in gameplay footage for far future games and the fact that it would be contrary to the design principles of the switch itself to change direction and have a mobile only switch.

Where’s your evidence that I’m wrong?
Nobody has reported that it will be a mobile only Switch. So they can't be wrong about that if they never even implied that to begin with.

Also you're forgetting that Nintendo specifically said- twice- that they would not discuss new hardware at E3. That is a huge hint that new hardware will indeed be coming soon, just not at E3.
 

skittzo0413

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It was speculation by WSJ and like this fake news thread: https://www.resetera.com/threads/jeux-video-shigeru-miyamoto-will-appear-on-stage-at-xbox-briefing.121973/ the rumor needs to end.

This story has discouraged potential customers and I’m calling the WSJ on it while it matters because after the fact no one will care and the damage will be done.
I'm sorry but you're being absurd. The Wall Street Journal talked to supply chain sources, they didn't speculate anything.

Nothing they have reported about this has been proven false. Not even close. On the contrary it has been backed up by several other reputable outlets with their own independent sources.

I have no idea what your beef is with them but please, give it up.

And this clearly isn't discouraging potential customers when the Switch is currently selling better than it ever has.
 

chocnut

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I'm sorry but you're being absurd. The Wall Street Journal talked to supply chain sources, they didn't speculate anything.

Nothing they have reported about this has been proven false. Not even close. On the contrary it has been backed up by several other reputable outlets with their own independent sources.

I have no idea what your beef is with them but please, give it up.

And this clearly isn't discouraging potential customers when the Switch is currently selling better than it ever has.
Oh they talked to “sources” did they?

Nothing for me to gain and everything for me to lose here. If I’m right we’ll have to wait a long time before that becomes clear and the lie will slide under the carpet.

If I’m wrong we’ll know immediately and I’ll have it rubbed in my face.
 
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It was speculation by WSJ and like this fake news thread: https://www.resetera.com/threads/jeux-video-shigeru-miyamoto-will-appear-on-stage-at-xbox-briefing.121973/ the rumor needs to end.

This story has discouraged potential customers and I’m calling the WSJ on it while it matters because after the fact no one will care and the damage will be done.
You're comparing speculation misinterpreted as reporting from a French gaming outlet to industry reporting from the Wall Street Journal?
 

Tygamr

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Oct 27, 2017
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Two friends approached me a few days ago and asked if they should buy a Switch now or wait a little more. Told them to wait for E3 and now at least one of them is looking to buy now.
Should I tell him to wait? How reliable are these rumors? I'm very conflicted on this right now.
Well historically Nintendo has announced hardware revisions after E3. Based on that, they’ll likely announce it sometime between now and September. New 2DS XL is an exception though.

Here’s when new models of 3DS were announced
3DS XL: June 22 2012
2DS: August 28 2013
New 3DS/New 3DS XL: August 29 2014
New 2DS: April 27 2017
 

Rion

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Oct 27, 2017
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Where there's smoke, there's fire. Wonder *if* there's a Pro version if that recent BotW2 reveal was running on that.

EDIT: Although they did plenty of early bullshots with BotW in the years leading up to its release so I guess I shouldn't put too much thought into it. Just thought the BotW2 reveal had some better than previous lighting it seemed.
Remember Breath of the Wild was designed around WiiU's anaemic 1Ghz CPU architecture from the year 2000, 1GB of 12GB/s RAM and 176gflop GPU. A new BotW built from the ground up for a possible Switch Pro (or even the standard Switch) will look much, much better. Depending on what the specs are for the likely Pro, they could even just go with the current visual fidelity at 1080p/60fps or keep it at 900p/30fps and really go for improved lighting, textures, alpha effects and foliage.
 

Interfectum

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Have any insiders or press sneak fucks chimed in on this yet? Surely if there is a pro version coming SDKs will be going out soon to developers.
 

chowyunfatt

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Hope there built better than the last one, the switch is built for shit. I cant even play with the joycons unless Im 2ft away. I could defo go for a new smaller "portable" version.
 

skittzo0413

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Oh wow, I missed that. I guess the million dollar question is what exactly is this "Pro" version.
Also how much is "a few months".

Why hasn't this been announced yet?
They aren't going to announce revisions (especially a cheaper one) more than like 1.5-2 months before they release. If at least one is coming in September I wouldn't expect an announcement until July, or maybe even later.

Announcing revisions early kill sales of the current console.