WWE 2K20 first footage and cover stars revealed and no one noticed?

Indiana Jones

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Oct 27, 2017
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Yuke's abandoning ship must have really fucked up the development of this game. 2K19 was a good looking game.....what the hell happened?

 

AntiMacro

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Oct 27, 2017
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How can they make the game look worse with each entry? I'm legit baffled by this.
Well there's tradeoffs for making it better in other areas. They have better animation now than they did back in the 'those look super real' days, more open areas, more item interaction...

TNA Impact for me is the high point of wrestling graphics, but it really suffered in the animation department - not so much in the animations which were generally ok, but they had issues getting the characters to 'mesh' so they would do things like change camera angles to hide the way they'd move characters around to make aerial moves hit, for example. Edit - this video at the 1:20 mark or so, when Styles goes off the rope it switches angles to hide the mismatch.

I guess that's making it a more realistic wrestling sim, in a way...
 
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Son of Sparda

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Oct 25, 2017
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Well there's tradeoffs for making it better in other areas. They have better animation now than they did back in the 'those look super real' days, more open areas, more item interaction...

TNA Impact for me is the high point of wrestling graphics, but it really suffered in the animation department - not so much in the animations which were generally ok, but they had issues getting the characters to 'mesh' so they would do things like change camera angles to hide the way they'd move characters around to make aerial moves hit, for example.

I guess that's making it a more realistic wrestling sim, in a way...
I played last year's game. The animations still looked really stiff for a current gen game and the game even had loading screens (pretty long ones even on Pro) each time you went to backstage or came back to ringside. Not to mention how bad the character models looked.

All in all, it really didn't feel like a PS4 game at all. I legit thought I was playing a PS3 game.
 

Boy

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Apr 24, 2018
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Reminder, this is how the series looked 13 years ago.



I dunno if they stopped facial/body scanning them because they look very cartoony compared to the old wrestling models from 13 years ago like you posted. Maybe it was an aesthetic choice to match the fidelity of the created wrestlers and the legends.

It felt like everything went downhill when they started motion capturing the animations. The moves/entrances/animations in general looked much better when they were hand animated back in the day.
 

MrH

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Nov 3, 2017
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It just looks so terrible. I think I'd prefer a more stylized presentation as they can't pull off realistic, something like All Stars.

 
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SCB360

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Oct 30, 2017
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It just looks so terrible. I think I'd prefer a most stylized presentation as they can't pull off realistic, something like All Stars.


They don't seem to get that there is also a market for this kinda game, WWE 2k games are awful for Kids or casuals to play, they're too sim like, I've tried and the only way I can do it with my kids is to turn pins off (cause the kickout system sucks), turn off subs and just be KO only
 

Branson

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Oct 27, 2017
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Whatever. I’m just in it for the creation side of things and Universe mode. I just want shadows fixed on PC.
 

Hasney

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Oct 25, 2017
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How the fuck does a 2019 triple AAA (in theory) game with a huge budget look this bad????
It doesn't have a huge budget. Yuke's quit because they couldn't get funding to try new things and make the series better.

Christ what the hell happened?
Yuke's quit and are giving minimal support. Apparently 2k couldn't even get the engine running until August according to CM Pulse and they are rushing the game out the door. The playtest the YouTubers and the like usually have at Summerslam is now happening 2 weeks before release.

This one will be one for the ages. Even more broken than normal.
 

Branson

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It doesn't have a huge budget. Yuke's quit because they couldn't get funding to try new things and make the series better.



Yuke's quit and are giving minimal support. Apparently 2k couldn't even get the engine running until August according to CM Pulse and they are rushing the game out the door. The playtest the YouTubers and the like usually have at Summerslam is now happening 2 weeks before release.

This one will be one for the ages. Even more broken than normal.
Maybe I’ll just stick with Fire Pro World for another year.
 

sibarraz

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Oct 27, 2017
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WWE 2k games have this issue where they look like shit to waste $60 for it, and by the time than they get cheap enough to consider a purchase, the next game is already coming.

Also, doesn't have the casual appeal of FIFA where even if you think that is too much money for the same game over and over again, at least there you could buy the game to have something to play with your casual friends
 
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Fantomex

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Oct 25, 2017
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WWE 2k games have this issue where they look like shit to waste $60 for it, and by the time than they get cheap enough to consider a purchase, the next coming is already coming.

Also, doesn't have the casual appeal of FIFA where even if you think that is too much money for the same game over and over again, at least there you could buy the game to have something to play with your casual friends
I just wait for them until Black Friday. The last couple of years all the stores have had them for $30-$35
 

Castamere

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Oct 26, 2017
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to this day i wonder who thought making wwe games more like sports sims was a good idea considering wrestling is nothing like a typical sports sim
The problem is its not a good sim. It tries to wade the line between sim and game to its failure, because Vince would never let a product break kayfabe. A game where you manage a wresting company for real would be killer. Gm mode 10 years ago got close.

Its the whos line is it anyway of stimulation games.

"Welcome to Whose Line is it Anyway?, the show where everything's made up and the points don't matter. "
 

Hayeya

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Oct 29, 2017
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Stopped playing these games ages ago, but 2 years ago i felt an urge to play due to nostalgia so i bought 2k17 to see how far these games have advanced since the ps2 days.


Well....

What the fuck did they do the gameplay? Counter, counter, counter, tapping, counter, counter, tapping, where is the fun in that?...... and about the graphics some wrestlers look great, other ps2 quality and i am not even joking, and the animation is still the same from the ps2 games, really???

My dream wwe game is a game developed by the tekken team using the same tekken gameplay, king marduk armor king are more enjoyable wrestlers to play than anything yukes came up with.
 

Tonky

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Aug 26, 2019
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Devs did an interview yesterday and basically confirmed that there are no new core gameplay enhancements other than reworked controls. I wouldn’t pay $10 for this game on launch.
 

Sibersk Esto

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Oct 25, 2017
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The problem is its not a good sim. It tries to wade the line between sim and game to its failure, because Vince would never let a product break kayfabe. A game where you manage a wresting company for real would be killer. Gm mode 10 years ago got close.

Its the whos line is it anyway of stimulation games.

"Welcome to Whose Line is it Anyway?, the show where everything's made up and the points don't matter. "
I guess there's always TEW 2016 (2020 coming soon) for sim needs, although I could see it being an issue if you wanted like, gameplay visuals
 

data west

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Oct 25, 2017
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King of Colosseum 2 is a sport simulator and its a hundred times better than these things

and its nearly 2 decades old