Thank you too for checking.
I am bummed because I was thinking of buying Doom 2. Really hope they go back on this, at least for the last gen consoles.
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Xbox BC people with Doom installed: do not delete it, Beth straight up yanked it [Update: Fixed]
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I am bummed because I was thinking of buying Doom 2. Really hope they go back on this, at least for the last gen consoles.
Absolutely - I only meant "ask" in the colloquial sense. Digital distribution is long past needing better regulation and this is a prime example why.
I just reinstalled my Doom 3 BFG physical disc on Xbox One X in case they decide to block downloading/installing that ever too. >_>
So now I have all 3 games there, but yup the digital Doom that I purchased back in the day on 360 wasn't available to install before hand. Such BS.
Digital suuuucks.
Physical 4 life.
So now I have all 3 games there, but yup the digital Doom that I purchased back in the day on 360 wasn't available to install before hand. Such BS.
Digital suuuucks.
Physical 4 life.
? It'll still be digital bruh, and this shit happens now before rental is even a thing
Possible work-around
Workaround fix from reddit
You can redownload them. Go to the Doom or Doom II club (one easy route is by finding the achievements on your profile) and select "See in Microsoft Store" from the main page of the club. It should say "You own this game" and the install button should be available.
You can redownload them. Go to the Doom or Doom II club (one easy route is by finding the achievements on your profile) and select "See in Microsoft Store" from the main page of the club. It should say "You own this game" and the install button should be available.
I just turned on my 360 and re-downloaded it just in case they do this
I assume they removed it so people wouldnt get confused when buying the new re-releases on the store, the problem
Is they removed the entire thing not just a purchasable listing, so people who own it cant re-download.
Im hoping thats what happened and it gets fixed...
Still fucking sucks though
Is they removed the entire thing not just a purchasable listing, so people who own it cant re-download.
Im hoping thats what happened and it gets fixed...
Still fucking sucks though
Yes, that's a thing people do. It's a way to share discussion.
The console manufacturers should make it clear to publishers that removing the ability for people to download content that they have purchased is allowed under no fucking circumstances. It should be baked into the core contracts that each publisher signs.
Fortunately, we have a product for people who aren't able to redownload. It's called Doom [or Doom II / Doom 3] for Xbox One.
Pretty sure the reason they removed it is because the digital version, for some unknown reason, is unable to play some of the Doom 1 levels on Xbox One BC.
OP, were these games that came with Doom 3 BFG? My understanding is that they are treated as different games on your console, and are the result of a bug in the port to BFG. They warned not to install it to the 360 HDD as well, I recall.
OP, were these games that came with Doom 3 BFG? My understanding is that they are treated as different games on your console, and are the result of a bug in the port to BFG. They warned not to install it to the 360 HDD as well, I recall.
Somebody here said if you own it digitally you can take out the disc and it will work without it. Not perfect but I guess it is better than nothing.
I think it would be very unlikely that they'd remove all these games on the same day they announced the new release, specifically stripping existing owners from being able to download it, in response to that in one game.
Also, do you have any sort of link or confirmation of that problem? I've played a lot of Doom on XB1 BC, and this is the first I'm hearing about it.
Link to issue
I still have to find the Reddit post about the BC on Xbox One, but imagine it's caused by the same bug.
For the folks calling this a bug, how does this explain the EU ps3 version getting delisted?
What I meant is that digital purchases are just a rental, you just dont know when they will take it away from you.
I'm with you, but for me digital is great because I buy one copy and my wife or brother can play with me on their xboxes at the same time and we split the cost.
This has nothing to do with digital, I own all these games on Steam and they are still there. It's a policy of the store.
So before I go to my local pawn shop and buy the BFG version for ~$5, what would I be missing from this release? I know someone said that online is greyed out, but would I miss out on Thy Flesh Consumed, as well as the extra level for Doom II?
This worked for me! Go to the games achievements, press the left bumper twice to get to the welcome tab. Then select "see in Microsoft Store" and you can install them. Then it's probably a mistake. Crisis averted and thank you so much for posting this :)
This so much. It should be standard.
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Fuck, what?? I can't use my xbox one right now and I forgot if they're still installed. Even though I have a PC I fucking love those versions, I'm gonna be pissed if I lost them.
The games getting delisted isnt a bug, Bethesda is pulling the gen 7 versions from the store and replacing them with gen 8 native versions. The bug is that people arent able to download those gen 7 versions anymore, which given that owners can still do this on PS3, makes it pretty clear that there was some kind of kink in the BC workflow that isnt playing nice with the delisting.
I can understand pulling from purchase. But if you already own it they should still be there. They need to fix this if they haven't already.
That link leads to a 2012 article about playing the XBLA versions of Doom included with Doom3 BFG edition on 360 when you did the 360-specific feature of [installing the disc image]. It caused a conflict, but the game worked as intended if you played it normally. The game even mentioned the issue in the BFG Edition menu itself. It's similar to how Halo 3 had slightly slower load-times when you installed it, vs playing it from the disc (because it was developed to cache a specific way before the install feature existed). This doesn't have anything to do with what you were talking about, and predates the XB1 console by a bit (let alone the BC program).
But this makes no sense.
If I own Zelda Breath of the Wild digitally and let's pretend Nintendo removes it from re-downloading...ok, I lost it.
If I break into your home and steal your Zelda Breath of the Wild cartridge you also, once again, lost the game.
It's literally the same exact thing. You could also lose the cart. Eat it. Loan it and never get it back etc.
Let's not pretend that your "physical" is somehow immune to every going away,
....and this digital stafu will get fixed anyway.
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Minecraft Story Mode (1 and 2) is back in my ready to install list on XBO.
This whole situation sucks. I have Doom 1 already installed but not Doom 2. I need to try that workaround for installing 2.
This situation reminds me of OG Xbox GTA: San Andreas, which I owned digitally and installed on my 360. One day, Rockstar yanked it completely and released a 360 native port of San Andreas with less licensed music. It was impossible to redownload the OG Xbox version, and my digital license could not be used for the 360 port.
This situation reminds me of OG Xbox GTA: San Andreas, which I owned digitally and installed on my 360. One day, Rockstar yanked it completely and released a 360 native port of San Andreas with less licensed music. It was impossible to redownload the OG Xbox version, and my digital license could not be used for the 360 port.
That's great to know, removing games from libraries should be illegal.
I think it's how the BC listings work on Xbox One.
On 360 if they are moved from the store they still are in the 360 download history.
On the Xbox one the BC listings are all store driven so if they follow the 360 policy it effects it from BC and you have to do the game hub/ achievement page work around.
I think this is why there was some strange approach with delisted games up for $1000s of dollars on the store to all the BC discoverability for owners.
On 360 if they are moved from the store they still are in the 360 download history.
On the Xbox one the BC listings are all store driven so if they follow the 360 policy it effects it from BC and you have to do the game hub/ achievement page work around.
I think this is why there was some strange approach with delisted games up for $1000s of dollars on the store to all the BC discoverability for owners.
Except big companies don't risk punishment when they commit a crime against you.
So much for BC being a perpetuity boon for Xbox.
IMO, being able to re-download it is a must. Trust is key for me if I'm going to purchase digitally from the platform, since ultimately perpetuity is not something anyone can full guarantee for all time - but they can certainly make it so that it is in the most absolute rare circumstance.
Part of why GOG and Steam have been mainstays for me, is the trust is there from years of supporting perpetuity on purchases - even when games are taken down for legal reasons / cashgrab remasters
EDIT - Excellent if the work around can stay - I still have my OG Doom games if I end up with a new Xbox anytime
IMO, being able to re-download it is a must. Trust is key for me if I'm going to purchase digitally from the platform, since ultimately perpetuity is not something anyone can full guarantee for all time - but they can certainly make it so that it is in the most absolute rare circumstance.
Part of why GOG and Steam have been mainstays for me, is the trust is there from years of supporting perpetuity on purchases - even when games are taken down for legal reasons / cashgrab remasters
EDIT - Excellent if the work around can stay - I still have my OG Doom games if I end up with a new Xbox anytime
The console owners need to handle this like Valve and most other PC stores do: If money changed hands, a game will never be removed from a player's account. Not even if the publisher *really* wants it gone.
Yeah, absolutely. That's the only way to have trust for the store and service. Steam has near 15 years of proving this consistently - though let me highlight something a shitty pub / developer can do, vs what a great pub / dev would do
1 - Rockstar - San Andreas - iirc they pulled the game, and naturally owners can still redownload, but when they brought it back, they pulled out the music that was causing an issue for both old and new users. This was completely unnecessary, lazy and not something Valve did anything about - mostly since its fairly easy to mod back in, but it is a problem nonetheless. What the dev should have done, is leave the depot as it was for those owners. They could make a seperate depot for new users, which would have been best for all.
2 - Mafia 1 - game was pulled years ago, all users could still play it. When the dev / pub years later brought back a remaster, they updated the game for all users - BUT, made a seperate DLC exclusive to the original owners, containing the entire unaltered music. That's how you do it!
For all the remasters where games have been pulled, so far on Steam, I have all of them still available to me - or received the new version free - which is a simple good gesture.
Oh boy, this argument again... the point being insurance or anything else you mentioned means physical copy can always be replaced, your digital only game can never be replaced (if physical was never an option)
Also in almost all cases of theft insurance will cover it, try getting that refund with digital theft by pubs.