Xbox Game Studios + Bethesda + ABK |OT30| Why So Series X|S?
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yup. people shouldn't criticize employees but the people making the shots. stein was right to delete it and he had no fault because he didn't shut down 4 studios.
The Lord of Cereal I've read your post and even if I don't agree with it - I still feel Microsoft should have carried the studios through at least one full project - I understand your reasoning.
I just feel a bit drained, so don't want to do a long post responding. Arkane (both teams) is one of my favorite studios of all time and seeing AA so unceremoniously thrown aside makes me sad.
I just feel a bit drained, so don't want to do a long post responding. Arkane (both teams) is one of my favorite studios of all time and seeing AA so unceremoniously thrown aside makes me sad.
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lmao wow
edit: very sad to hear about PD having development issues. why is this series cursed
Perfect Dark is still in shambles?! 😫 They've spent so much money trying to make this game happen. How can its development be going so badly? This Tuesday keeps getting worse.
He's only a puppet if he chooses to be. This should have been a resigning issue for him.
Who knows what could have happened to BGS Austin too with these clowns if there wasn't the Fallout TV show.
Bethesda is trapped in this mess.
Bethesda is trapped in this mess.
The way Grubb is talking about it (still watching Giantbomb) these studios don't have GP as a safety blanket, they have to make money.
Just loaded up an old Prey save to reminisce.
At least the studios and developers will live on and be remembered in the art they made.
At least the studios and developers will live on and be remembered in the art they made.
If I was at The Initiative and Ninja Theory I would genuinely be getting ready to move.
PD having issues after all this time and let's be honest Hellblade 2 can be a 10/10 GOTY but won't do blockbuster numbers..I am really hoping everyone lands on their feet..but man am I getting fuckin tired of saying that over and over and at studios that DELIVER
PD having issues after all this time and let's be honest Hellblade 2 can be a 10/10 GOTY but won't do blockbuster numbers..I am really hoping everyone lands on their feet..but man am I getting fuckin tired of saying that over and over and at studios that DELIVER
Not surprised about Perfect Dark. The way The Initiative was set up seemed dumb from the get go. I don't envy Crystal Dynamics.
Hopefully even more stuff comes out. I'm ready to hear just how woefully mismanaged the Xbox division truly is.
Hopefully even more stuff comes out. I'm ready to hear just how woefully mismanaged the Xbox division truly is.
Okay, so I've removed some Xbox backlog games. Tried to whittle it down as much as possible. And I've added Switch games to my backlog. I'll play those games starting 2025 when Switch 2 comes out:
Xbox backlog:
Switch 2 backlog:
Xbox backlog:
- Apollo Justice collection
- Death's door
- Entropy centre
- Guacamelee 2
- Master detective archives: rain code
- Nier replicant
- Opus: echo of starsong
- Outer workds
- Sea of stars
- Star Wars Jedi survivor
- Talos principle 2
- Titanfall 2
- Unicorn overlord
- Witcher 3
- Wolfenstein 2
Switch 2 backlog:
- 13 sentinels
- Great ace attorney chornicles
- All Layton games that exist on switch (I think there's 3?)
- LOZ: breath of the wild
- LOX: tears of the kingdom
- Super Mario 3D workd
- Super Mario odyssey
- Super Mario bros wonder
Seeing those tweets and knowing that the studio is gone is just heartbreaking. So much talent gone just like that.
Thank you for pulling those together.
It feels like AAA is staring down the barrel when seemingly every other week a publisher or developer has decided to refocus on core IP. Ballooning budgets and longer dev times coupled with competing against black hole games for dollars and engagement seems untenable.
Perhaps it was optimistic to think green lighting games in the A/AA space would be a potential solution in hopes of driving down costs and increasing output in hopes of generating moderate successes in volume. Presumably it's hard to reconcile that route versus making a safe iteration in an established franchise.
Perhaps it was optimistic to think green lighting games in the A/AA space would be a potential solution in hopes of driving down costs and increasing output in hopes of generating moderate successes in volume. Presumably it's hard to reconcile that route versus making a safe iteration in an established franchise.
After being banned for a month for just casually making fun of a certain company, I've realized this hobby's extremely toxic forums isn't for me anymore and I'd like to put an end to my misery once and for all.
So suck it nerds and continue to boot-lick your fav capitalist dirtbag company whether its xbox or sony, like a bunch of buffoons. I hope you get the illusion of enjoyment out of it for years to come.
Peace :)
So suck it nerds and continue to boot-lick your fav capitalist dirtbag company whether its xbox or sony, like a bunch of buffoons. I hope you get the illusion of enjoyment out of it for years to come.
Peace :)
What's frustrating is that the visibility in how they "make money" when their games are launching straight into GP is basically zero. Which just adds to the uncertainty of the situation.
ABK won't get unwound, and Microsoft didn't strong arm their way into closing the deal... nor did Congress have anything to do with the deal being finished...
The deal was closed because the FTC didn't have a strong case, and specifically hasn't actually sued in federal court to stop the deal. They sued for a preliminary injunction to delay the deal, and that injunction was denied specifically because it was on shallow ground and merely a delay tactic.
Honestly you're probably not wrong and that really sucks honestly. I love me some nice AA and smaller budget games and it sucks that they almost never seem to actually sell well enough to be profitable enough for more barring specific circumstances...
The gaming industry as a whole really feels like it's going down an unsustainable path and it really sucks. In the past I thought that Game Pass would shield MS from the major pains from that but apparently not...
As others have mentioned, I am especially bummed because I felt like Xbox was THE place for smaller scale games, recently with Artful Escape, Cocoon, Jusant, HiFi Rush and a bunch of others I'm not thinking of. and of course Ori and Cuphead. I know they aren't exclusives but being on gamepass it was just the best place for those type of games and seeing them going for bigger titles is just a bummer. Time to save up for a Switch 2
Microsoft asked Xbox, or maybe Spencer asked himself "Why should we be the losing platform holder when we can be the leading game publisher?"
So that's what we get. Xbox-Bethesda-Activision-Blizzard-King-Whoeverelse, the biggest moneymaker in gaming history. Expect many more studio closures, layoffs, AAAA sequels and GAAP (Game As A Prison).
So that's what we get. Xbox-Bethesda-Activision-Blizzard-King-Whoeverelse, the biggest moneymaker in gaming history. Expect many more studio closures, layoffs, AAAA sequels and GAAP (Game As A Prison).
Oh my I desagree a lot with this attitude. Do nothing about the shit MS decissions bring us what? Layoffs and studio closures. So we do it again? "Let's be excited for June Showcase, new games""
Can we learn something from Helldivers 2 situation? I doubt. I really doubt. I Just saw some "Xbox fans" in a discord channel that are saiyng that Arkane Austin DESERVED to be closed, because Redfall brought disgrace for Xbox.
I would rather to Xbox have a terrible showcase now with record low engagement/views so they can see, "Ohh maybe we are doing something wrong", it's better that, to have a point of no return for the brand in the near future.
If I were working at one of the many Xbox studios right now, I'd be actively seeking opportunities elsewhere. Regardless of your reputation or the quality of your games, you're simply treated like a number in a spreadsheet, and they couldn't care less. I believe it must be currently one of the most unsafe places in the industry to work, or at least that makes you feel insecure and worried about your future in the industry. They are going to pay a harsh price for this if talented people start to leave
Perfect Dark is my most anticipated game of this generation. I love the N64 game I can't believe they still haven't been able to figure it out by now. The initiative was started back in 2018.
That's fair, I guess I was referring more to the games themselves not doing well, because I'd never wish that upon the developers, rather than the showcase itself.
I obviously couldn't disagree more with that boneheaded ArkAus take.
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Jesus.
That game is never coming out. The Initiative getting shuttered and never releasing a game would be the perfect example of incompetence at Xbox.
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