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Yup, quite a simplistic take by them. Immediate influx of money isnt the plan, establishing usp for Gamepass is more valuable for MS.
When Bethesda decides its time to show off Starfield, it won't be a quick discussion and trailer. 20-30 minutes of Todd Howard (+ cafe race leather jacket) glory.
Some are still saying this yes.
Actually you got s good point here with the announcement of all Bethesda Xbox Ones titles coming to gamepass. Totally forgot about this xD
I wonder if Xbox saved their Fallout 4 BC version for this event/announcement, too. Will be interesting.
You are spot on with this. It arguing in bad faith or concern trolling.
You are right, but even without Gamepass a user investing into the ecosystem is more valuable than someone spending 60-70$ on a game on a competitor console. Sure, all exclusives would sell more as multiplatform. But then you potentially don't get those people into your ecosystem and then you can't make money with them buying third party games on your store or subscription (Gold, Plus, Nintendo Online).
I would like this, but I could see this video just being a welcome Bethesda video and not entirely focused on Starfield. So perhaps we won't be getting a full deep dive and instead a trailer with a announcement of the deep dive (including date).
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If you're talking the welcome video, yeah, I'd expect just a cgi cut. I was replying to an E3 comment.
They also need to take those markets way more seriously. In Russia, they have less than zero advertisement, local pricing for Series X/S and accessories is a bitch, and most of all - Microsoft Store is in US Dollars and you can't buy Gold/Gamepass through it at all, you have to rely on retailers. It's a primarily PlayStation country (and despite what was said a few pages ago, console market in here is quite strong, I could elaborate if someone wants a perspective), and it's like Microsoft stopped trying altogether after 2014's Xbone launch in here.
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I meant Eras channel.
When are we going to update the OT with As Dusk Falls? I mentioned it missing in the last OT and it was never added then either.
I understand but I have a different view. I think they want to get Gears back to being a top flight franchise for Xbox that drives platform interest. It's harder to do that with your first project on new hardware and a new engine version (UE5).
So my feeling is that they will do something else first (meaning it launches first, of course they will be doing prepro for Gears alongside the new ip game) to give Gears 6 more time to bake as a game, the franchise a little more time to build anticipation / rest, and themselves more time and learning to wring the full power out of Series X and UE5.
Then drop the new Gears of War as a really premier, "second gen" Series X title in like 2023 or 2024.
Good idea for a commercial.
I highly doubt this happens unless The Coalition have established another sizable team that can create another game alongside Gears 6.
Coalition is huge, if Obsidian can have 4 projects going they can have 2.
Sure, but Obsidian have established multiple teams. Coalition, as far as I know, haven't yet.
I'm sure they have multiple teams already. Gears 5 content, Hivebusters, Gears 6 prepro probably all represent "teams". I don't think it's probably too rigid as far how many teams they have, more like people move to projects as needed.
Perhaps I'm not being clear so allow me to clarify. The Coalition, as far as I know does NOT have a sizable team to focus on creating and developing a new IP or game outside of the Gears IP. Comparing Obsidian or any studio except 343i to The Coalition is an inaccurate comparison due to that fact.
The Coalition absolutely has multiple teams, yes. The studio actively developed Gears Tactics with Splash Damage alongside Gears 5 (& even Gears Pop) as well.
With Greg Juby and Aryan Hanbeck, the studio has two Art Directors, so The Coalition is in the position to develop (at least) two games at a time. The studios past has shown that they actually work on two games simultaneously since The Coalition got created.
With Greg Juby and Aryan Hanbeck, the studio has two Art Directors, so The Coalition is in the position to develop (at least) two games at a time. The studios past has shown that they actually work on two games simultaneously since The Coalition got created.
It'll be a trailer + Xbox Wire post.
Followed by some interviews in the Games Media with Phil, Satya, Tood and Pete.
Followed by some interviews in the Games Media with Phil, Satya, Tood and Pete.
This is what I meant. Am I wrong in believing otherwise?
I guess it would depend on the scale of that second game. Two AAA games just by them without "big" outsourcing (like Gears Tactics) seems unrealistic, I agree.
I do think, though, there is very much the chance The Coalition is currently developing Gears Next + a new small to medium scaled Gears title (so kind of experimenting with new experiences within the Gears IP) alongside it.
It's still Gears though. I was replying in context of PianoBlack who thinks there's a chance of a New IP game or game beyond the Gears IP before Gears 6 is released.
Oh yeah, I can't say you're wrong because there could very well be a team focused on developing a New IP game or game beyond the Gears IP that we are unaware about. It's just at this point, I highly doubt it and think the odds of it happening go much higher after Gears 6 releases and the Coalition finishes their own Gears trilogy.
Whether or not they build a -- just to give an example -- horror singleplayer game named Gears: Nightmares or Dark Night: Nightmares ultimately is irrelevant. It would be a new experience in both cases in all but its name.
The Coalition is a Gears studio and proud about the franchise. There is more than enough freedom within the Gears universe itself and I'm confident the studio will explore more experiences within that world.
Agreed. I wasn't applying any value as to whether it's good or bad that they continue creating games using the Gears IP. Only just establishing within the context of my discussion with PianoBlack, that it's unlikely at this time The Coalition has a sizeable team designed to create and develop new IP games or games outside the the Gears IP.
I have my Series X so I don't mind if the games are exclusive or not. But you have to remember that Microsoft let some important "exclusive" IPs like Minecraft, Cuphead and Ori on other platforms.
It's different, Obsidian have multiples art directors, game directors, lead writers.
Minecraft was never an exclusive IP. They own the IP sure but it was never exclusive. And cup head and ori were made by independent developers. Why risk those relationships when those games' sales and sub benefits have already plateaued
And I think it's more likely than the two of you do litebrite Klobrille. Gears is a great IP with lots of potential for interesting experimentation. I thought 5 was great, thought Tactics was an awesome spinoff concept (haven't actually played it yet but excited to do so), and am looking forward very much to 6.
That said, solely my opinion: The Coalition is arguably the best, most proven studio in XGS, especially if we are talking about the kinds of action games that attract the most attention. Gears, fairly or unfairly, is no longer the best vehicle *on its own* for Coalition to contribute their full potential to the Xbox lineup and continue to attract top talent.
And for the reasons I stated earlier I think the timing makes a lot of sense for them to do something else as they ramp up on next gen to make Gears 6 the best it can be.
That said, solely my opinion: The Coalition is arguably the best, most proven studio in XGS, especially if we are talking about the kinds of action games that attract the most attention. Gears, fairly or unfairly, is no longer the best vehicle *on its own* for Coalition to contribute their full potential to the Xbox lineup and continue to attract top talent.
And for the reasons I stated earlier I think the timing makes a lot of sense for them to do something else as they ramp up on next gen to make Gears 6 the best it can be.
I could care less what is and isn't exclusive. It has no bearing on me as a current Xbox owner.
What I do care about is some game news. They need to start talking..:even if it's quarterly videos or something.
the old Inside Xbox kinda sucked but at least it was something to watch lol (and no I don't need some hugely produced thing. Give us something like Nintendo Direct)
What I do care about is some game news. They need to start talking..:even if it's quarterly videos or something.
the old Inside Xbox kinda sucked but at least it was something to watch lol (and no I don't need some hugely produced thing. Give us something like Nintendo Direct)
I think there's a LOT of benefits of shifting the gameplay loop of gears to something more single player centric. Give Gears MP fans one last hurrah w Gears 6, but move towards an Uncharted gameplay loop. Can you imagine how well received that could be. Their character work is REALLY top notch. They're just hamstrung by the gameplay loop at this point
I don't think you can apply what works for one studio to another. Every studio has their own internal practices, and some prefer focusing on one game at a time. Which might be why Coalition's Gears 5 looks fantastic while Obsidian's games tend to have good premises but don't have high production values (that might change with Avowed, of course). Developing multiple games is great, but there can be downsides to spreading themselves too thin: a project might not get enough resources and be just good instead of great. It's always a balancing act.
The problem, I think, is the massive undertaking and time sink it would be for them to focus and develop a new IP from scratch right now as a huge studio, as they've just now started settling in fully with the Gears IP and likely believe they can do much more with it. Like it or not, Gears is a successful known quantity that's iconic to Xbox and establishes a certain safe and secure spot for studio employees than going all in on an unknown quantity that could possibly flop. However I can see them try a new IP or game outside the Gears IP, but only if they've gathered/hired another sizable team designed for this focus. Unfortunately I don't believe this has happened.
Of course, but as we've already mentioned they have multiple teams today. What did all the folks who worked on Hivebusters move to? Or as Klob pointed out, the team that contributed to Tactics? It's just a matter of what they choose to do next.
I agree with all that - I think having the "safety" of Gears should give them space to try something new. And my impression is that they are easily big enough to staff a secondary project (see next quoted post) from current employees + modest additional hires as needed.
Yes, I think maybe I wasn't clear that I would expect a new IP game to be smaller scale than Gears 5/Gears 6 and require correspondingly smaller team. No multiplayer, etc.
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