Alot of driveby post and how game pass will only be about quantity than quality
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Because it doesn't fit the dumb ass narrative they're trying to push.
But they with? even SoT end up become one of strong title, just some people in era won't admit it and keep saying how bad it is without playing it.
I'm curious about this, because comments from Matt Booty suggest that the acquisitions are about rounding out the portfolio with 'mid-tier' games (his words), to complement the AAA focus of their existing larger franchises. So I'm not sure all or even most of them will be carrying that ambition.
I agree in that I don't think the AAA calibre of games like Forza is going to change, but I do wonder how much of the additionals and how much of the expansion will yield leading edge stuff, or stuff that aims for that, and to what extent gamepass is influencing the mix.
Disappointed in CD3 reviews and it kind of cements to me that MS should focus less on the global publishing team.
Out of all their effrots this gen, this was supposed to be the biggest and it was the biggest bust. only KI and Ori have really been successful and only Ori can IMO be considered a great game. At least MS got an IP out of that one but we all know MOON won't sell and more power to them.
I feel net gen things will start looking up, but they are going to need some seriously amazing games at the next-xbox reveal to get people to buy into it, most have decided Xbox as a system has the least interesting games at this point.
I'll still buy CD3, I figure after this reception it will probably be the last CD game and I;d like to have a complete collection. A sucker I am.
Out of all their effrots this gen, this was supposed to be the biggest and it was the biggest bust. only KI and Ori have really been successful and only Ori can IMO be considered a great game. At least MS got an IP out of that one but we all know MOON won't sell and more power to them.
I feel net gen things will start looking up, but they are going to need some seriously amazing games at the next-xbox reveal to get people to buy into it, most have decided Xbox as a system has the least interesting games at this point.
I'll still buy CD3, I figure after this reception it will probably be the last CD game and I;d like to have a complete collection. A sucker I am.
I almost feel like downloading and playing crackdown 3 on gamepass sends the wrong message. This shouldn't be an acceptable level of quality from Xbox game studios, and I feel that if it's a success on gamepass maybe Microsoft will use that data point to rationalize low quality first party releases.
If it's a success on Game Pass it means people enjoyed the game..
its such a dumb article with the author pushing some bogus narrative. I can bet Ori 2 and Gears 5 will review very well and sell just as well and yet we have both games coming to game pass at launch. Anyone who thinks MS will stop making AAA titles cos of game pass is getting it all wrong. The Initiative, 343i, Coalition, PG games, Obsidian, Rare, T10 and even NT will continue making AAA games...doesn't stop them from making a couple AA games too after all most of these devs have multiple teams now.
MS obviously knows this. Its' why they went on the acquisition spree last year and according to insiders they aren't even done. Gears 5 and Ori 2 look really good though.If only we had some good games in the MS lineup...
If only...
Joking aside, while i love Crackdown 3 or at least what I've played of so far, I do want MS to step it up post-CD3. We got some really good studios, Global Publishing got such great talent, now is the time to shift in fifth gear and go full in looking at next-gen.
Or why don't you try it first to see if it's low quality for you or not.
Btw, MS target isn't release bunch of low quality games, it's keep releasing good mid-tier budget games with few good AAAs in each year, even Crackdown 3 is bad in WOM but still success, they will just think they're luck this time and should release something good quality next time.
It's really crazy people think devs just want to develop something bad, Ljn is closed long time ago lol.
Playing it and then dropping it if you don't like it would send more of a message than not playing it at all, when it comes to stuff like Game Pass games.
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good point that would also Sendak's message
Here's my plan, I'm gonna start a website called meatcriric, where I review meats and meat related products.
Then I'm going to wait until the day someone at Metacritic fucks up and doesn't update an account or forgets to respond to an email and their domain is unregistered for a few seconds or minutes, I'll then buy it up and set it to redirect to meatcriric. And when they try to sue me to get their domain back, I'll be able to make a legitimate case for use, because people frequently misstype meat as meta and go to the wrong site.
Then we'll be done with this argument forever. Who's with me? I need someone to review mollusks.
Then I'm going to wait until the day someone at Metacritic fucks up and doesn't update an account or forgets to respond to an email and their domain is unregistered for a few seconds or minutes, I'll then buy it up and set it to redirect to meatcriric. And when they try to sue me to get their domain back, I'll be able to make a legitimate case for use, because people frequently misstype meat as meta and go to the wrong site.
Then we'll be done with this argument forever. Who's with me? I need someone to review mollusks.
Their analytics are probably WAAAY better than just a simple "X amount downloaded the game".
They're definitely looking at how much people play the game, so if they notice that the amount of play time is way lower on average per download than other games, that would probably send a message that they need to do something different.
Microsoft has said they want to be in a position to deliver a "AAA" game every quarter on to Game Pass. The mid-tier stuff from the likes of Battletoads to Ori 2 will nicely fill the other two months with alternative experiences.
That institutional investor's take seems a bit contrary to expectations in Booty's direct quotes. Maybe different interpretations of 'AAA' are being used in different conversations, maybe '1 AAA every quarter' is an ultimate long term goal, or maybe different expectations are being expressed in public vs more privately to an investor. But if both the investor's take and Booty's comments are correct, and are nearer term (5 year) goals, then I guess they'll be wanting to pick up yet more larger studios to meet that goal. We'll see what happens.
Gotta get their meal whilst they still can because next-gen when the 20+ studios MS will have are firing on all cylinders they are going to starve
I think they have deeper stats to show this like time played. No doubt many will play and drop it if they don't like what they see.
And yes I agree this should not be a qualifier for top class content for MS, they shouldn't get a pass which why I have high hopes for the new gen, they don't have enough nay excuses now.
True enough, but that didn't prevent them from being nailed by the stink from the original launch. Their sales no doubt suffered as a result.
Indeed, XGS has some serious talent in their studios now. If anything I will be really surprised if Xbox doesn't start knocking it out of the park from Gears 5 onwards.If only we had some good games in the MS lineup...
If only...
Joking aside, while i love Crackdown 3 or at least what I've played of so far, I do want MS to step it up post-CD3. We got some really good studios, Global Publishing got such great talent, now is the time to shift in fifth gear and go full in looking at next-gen.
Just look at what they have in the pipeline. Initiative, Obsidian, Playground, 343i to name a few.
Netflix needed really high quality content to attract subscribers too. XGS has the same pressure to succeed, if anything they have a harder job than any other platform to get it right, hence the huge investments coming in.
Yeah, and now i think QB and SO's sales could be one of the reason push them to make gamepass model.
They will keep making AAA games. They've never said otherwise and they have enough AAA devs to get the work done and as I stated above they aren't done acquiring developers.
Except the reality is if Microsoft keeps dropping poorly conceived and unenjoyable games into gamepass this will negatively impact gamepass subscribers numbers as putting in first party titles day one becomes less of a selling point for the service if all the games are garbage..
On the flipside, gamepass subscribers will get the opportunity to judge this for themselves and maybe they will find out they actually enjoy it.
I speak from experience here, I certainly have some faith that I will get some enjoyment out of this. I had very little desire to play State of Decay 2 and the reviews almost prevented me from even bothering, but not only did I play it but it sunk its claws into me pretty deep for several weeks and I became a fan of the series.
Heh. If they were going to release it "low quality" just to get it out, then they would have released this in "good enough whatever" state 3 years ago. They spent a lot of time and a LOT of money polishing this into something that some people will like. Sea of Thieves is the same. It doesn't matter how much "content" they put in, because the vision they had for the game was never for everyone. We'll see what lessons they learn. It'll be interesting either way.
It was truly unbelievable how good the 360 was last gen, especially early on. Sad to see my most played Xbox one game is Pubg...
Well, we're now entering the era of Booty, so the upside is that Xbox have someone personally looking to take charge of 1st party quality, and all of MS announced games coming up do look spectacular. I dont think this sentiment was shared with Fable, Crackdown, ReCore etc.
Not surprised by the reviews. These are the same outlets that praised Red Dead Redemption 2 for a good story and great graphics, yet it played absolutely like crap. That is when you're actually playing it, and not just riding on a horse and talking to people. Just another in the long list of games where presentation is more important than gameplay, and reviewers eat it up.
RDR2 was amazing. Second best game this gen, right behind Witcher 3.
The story, graphics, and world itself were great. The tedious controls and mediocre gameplay bring the whole thing down. Absolutely overrated.
Wasn't the crackdown 3 game all it was supposed to be a crackdown game...so where is this we can't accept this quality from Microsoft?...so now every game in this world is supposed to look like God of war..is that the new standard the so called "gaming industry" n others moaning here have set?...I really don't get how crackdown 3, game that has had a difficult development cycle gets define how the future of other games from XGS will look like n how the future of gamepass will look like..what is the standard are the complaints and the media measuring crackdown 3 against that makes them think it's "the worse that makes it a 5/10" game...is it something the media n the complaints wanted personally that's missing or is there something that a crackdown game is supposed to have that is missing thereby informing their rating of it...I just don't get it..are all games supposed to look a specific way or have certain things?...I never heard of that..are all games supposed to have all these things they claim to appeal to it's fans?..NO and I never heard that either..it's all subjectivity,the problem is people n the media trying so hard to project their subjectivity onto others who think it looks great and couple with same people predicting "doom and gloom" for Microsoft and Xbox because of gamepass..first it was we cannot get man game games as Xbox owners n now they provide with games then the narrative changes to "we want quality over quantity"..when is it gonna end..is there a race for who tops the moaning chart board in the gaming industry?..yeah company' are not perfect but my Gosh some people have been milking the whole "we are the reviewers or we are hard core gamers so we get to decide thing to it's apex"...why do t I give people the benefit of the doubt for loving a franchise even if it is not your taste or it doesn't have what you wanted on a personal level..it will do a great work of good 👍
People really underestimate the subjectivity element of gaming..it's very subjective..something people must learn to accept so sanity can prevail
People really underestimate the subjectivity element of gaming..it's very subjective..something people must learn to accept so sanity can prevail
Now that's something I can get behind.
Even with Crackdown's poor reviews, I still believe the Xbox division has a bright future.
Without a doubt. XGS is loaded with talent, they have incredibly skilled teams working on next gen. The intent absolutely is to be the best in the industry, at least that's what their level of investment shows.
Hell, my favourite studio ended up being acquired, Obsidian.
Crackdown 3 is Crackdown and I'm sure that's what we were wanting/expecting. I do think that will be the last time people will take pleasure in shitting on a Xbox game unless Battletoads turns out bad. No way do I expect Ori and Gears to receive as much bashing. Xbox Games studios already looks bright with Ninja Theory's new game announcement this year, Playground's open world Fable, and whatever big game The Initiative is doing. I can't wait to see what new ips these studios create for next generation.
Yeah, Obsidian is a huge deal. They were the first studio that came to my mind when Phil started talking about acquisitions.
On the contrary actually, I think most people here see Crackdown as this thing that was inherited by Phil from the previous regime.
I think most people (myself included) view this as the final remnant of that era.
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