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Black_Stride · Feb 17, 2019

Regis said:
I'm replying Quantum Break and i can't stop asking to myself ¿What the hell were the reviewers thinking while playing the fucking game?

Hating on anything Xbox related was still cool....hell I still feel reviewers from some websites are still unnecessarily harsh towards Xbox exclusives.

Quantum Break was a solid game, I literally replay it every year in hopes it will finally register my "complete all of Quantum Break" achievement, I did all that on my second playthrough but it didnt register, so every time I try playing the game again hoping something will click internally and the game will just shoot me the achievement.

Karateka · Feb 17, 2019

how does the initiative only have 2 openings?
They don't even have an idea to start working on yet? I guess no game from them until 2025...

Black_Stride said:
Hating on anything Xbox related was still cool....hell I still feel reviewers from some websites are still unnecessarily harsh towards Xbox exclusives.

Quantum Break was a solid game, I literally replay it every year in hopes it will finally register my "complete all of Quantum Break" achievement, I did all that on my second playthrough but it didnt register, so every time I try playing the game again hoping something will click internally and the game will just shoot me the achievement.

Quantum break was honestly a great game. The gameplay felt good and the story was good.
Problems... it was really short, there wasn't enough encounter variety imo, the last boss fight was contrived. In my opinion the TV stuff wasn't needed at all and just ate up a lot of the budget.

One of the things making a sequel unlikely is that I doubt MS will want to put that effort into a TV show again.

Hudsoniscool · Feb 17, 2019

Screw the reviewers crackdown is fun as hell.

danrbg · Feb 17, 2019

It's never too late! We are going to ask for it!

Colossal Moo · Feb 17, 2019

Theorry said:
Lol that CD3 review thread is still going. I am proud that i never went into that thread.
Let me guess the "discussion" isnt really about CD3 anymore?

I haven't been in the thread but if I had to guess, here are some of the "important" and "legitimate" topics which are being discussed:

A) Is Crackdown 3 1,000 or 1,000,000 times worse than Big Rigs?
B) We know Xbox has a "horrible" first party. Is it worse than the NGage's?
C) Is there any PS1 game which had worse graphics than Crackdown 3's?
D) Now that Crackdown 3 is out, which 2019 PS4 game are you going to buy?

Deleted member 53021 · Feb 17, 2019

MistahS said:
If MS gets a Cap game it'd be the Coalition developing it. Rod is a huge Cap fan. Check out his Instagram. He had a ton of statues and figures.

That would be great

BioDigital Jazzman · Feb 17, 2019

Colossal Moo said:
How do you know it's going to bomb? One of my huge problems with a lot games discussions is people do not actually play games or even wait for hard data before declaring a game a success or failure. If you are looking for a AAA single player FPS, Metro is one of your few options. I don't know if it will be a good or a bad game but I would be very surprised if the game is terrible or even mediocre.

I have nothing against metro and I don't think it's a bad game. I just thick the odds are stacked against it and I don't think it will find success. On the console side it's facing apex and to a lesser extent Anthem next week. Both are multiplayer games that will find their audience.

It also comes out the same day as far cry and while I don't think that game will do gangbusters, it's a bigger brand and it has its fans.

Sexyphobe · Feb 17, 2019

Colossal Moo said:
I haven't been in the thread but if I had to guess, here are some of the "important" and "legitimate" topics which are being discussed:

A) Is Crackdown 3 1,000 or 1,000,000 times worse than Big Rigs?
B) We know Xbox has a "horrible" first party. Is it worse than the NGage's?
C) Is there any PS1 game which had worse graphics than Crackdown 3's?
D) Now that Crackdown 3 is out, which 2019 PS4 game are you going to buy?

E) Does this beat "Bubsy 3D" for worst 3D controls?
F) Will being associated with Xbox destroy Terry Crew's career?
G) Does Microsoft know you're supposed to pay reviewers to write positive reviews?
H) Is "fun" really a code word for "Quality Genocide"?

christocolus · Feb 17, 2019

Mington said:
Maybe the guy just loves putting holes in cake

Aaron and Matt are definitely up to something. It may not be an acquisition but they sure know what they are doing.

Steverulez · Feb 17, 2019

InfinityDOK said:
This whole thread over thinks everything tbf

It is the way god intended it to be. Now that MS is doing good things we should be linking everything to that and enjoying a vicious circle of disappointment and irritation.

Sexyphobe · Feb 17, 2019

christocolus said:
Aaron and Matt are definitely up to something. It may not be an acquisition but they sure know what they are doing.

Twisting our nipples for shits and giggles?

christocolus · Feb 17, 2019

Sexyphobe said:
Twisting our nipples for shits and giggles?

Lol.

WhoCaresLtsPlay · Feb 17, 2019

Steverulez said:
It is the way god intended it to be. Now that MS is doing good things we should be linking everything to that and enjoying a vicious circle of disappointment and irritation.

Sprinkled with some satisfaction so we feel it's justified to restart the cycle hahah

Kiekura · Feb 17, 2019

Black_Stride said:
Hating on anything Xbox related was still cool....hell I still feel reviewers from some websites are still unnecessarily harsh towards Xbox exclusives

This was never the case. Please stop this nonsense.

Kilgore · Feb 17, 2019

Ushay said:
Nice shit post. Inspiring actually. I should try it sometime.

I'm kidding by way ;)

I was joking :(

papahefe · Feb 17, 2019

christocolus said:
Aaron and Matt are definitely up to something. It may not be an acquisition but they sure know what they are doing.

The first was a square with 4 sides, now a star with 5 points? Anything there, or am I just reaching hopelessly?

Kilgore · Feb 17, 2019

zerotheclown said:
The first was a square with 4 sides, now a star with 5 points? Anything there, or am I just reaching hopelessly?

team #45by2045

Steverulez · Feb 17, 2019

Sexyphobe said:
Twisting our nipples for shits and giggles?

Sexyphobe

Member

WhoCaresLtsPlay said:
Sprinkled with some satisfaction so we feel it's justified to restart the cycle hahah

Yep. #20by2020 will be glorious

nekkid · Feb 17, 2019

I wish I had the power to post random shit and cause this much speculation lmao

Terbinator · Feb 17, 2019

With CD3 out now, what else do we have coming this year / expected to come other than Ori? Shit's pretty bleak atm.

solis74 · Feb 17, 2019

anyone played Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy? its free with GWG

Grunty · Feb 17, 2019

Terbinator said:
With CD3 out now, what else do we have coming this year / expected to come other than Ori? Shit's pretty bleak atm.

Battletoads, Gears of War 5, and I'd assume whatever Forza game is next?

Rodeo Clown · Feb 17, 2019

Durock said:
Battletoads, Gears of War 5, and I'd assume whatever Forza game is next?

No Forza this year. Turn 10 turned FM7 into a live service and still updates it every month. They're promising the March update will be the biggest one yet.

And, really, it doesn't make sense for them to rush out a Forza Motorsport this year when next gen is next year and a theoretical FM8 is a major showpiece for new hardware.

Dyashen · Feb 17, 2019

Terbinator said:
With CD3 out now, what else do we have coming this year / expected to come other than Ori? Shit's pretty bleak atm.

Gears 5 and Ori 2 seem very likely to be released this year. Dlala (devs for Battletoads) seemed very confident in releasing the game this year, but Battletoads wasn't mentioned on the 2019 lineup in the Xbox Wire article. We'll see how this will go.

'V' · Feb 17, 2019

solis74 said:
anyone played Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy? its free with GWG

I know this is off-topic but the Xbox app (on Android anyway) is really bad. I just tried to redeem this game on the app but despite it being advertised for me as a game I can redeem for free, whenever I go to the store page for the game it doesn't give me an option to purchase it, it just says "Play on Xbox One" and when I press that it starts searching for Xbox consoles on my network which is pointless because I don't own the game or have it installed so I can't play it either way, and I'm not currently near my Xbox. I also redeemed Bomberman R and that went fine, I could buy it in the app and there were separate options for buying the game and playing it on Xbox One. I don't know if this is an issue specifically for back compat games but it's really annoying. I had the same issue with AC:Rogue earlier this month too.

Morgoth Bauglir · Feb 17, 2019

solis74 · Feb 17, 2019

Fruity said:
I know this is off-topic but the Xbox app (on Android anyway) is really bad. I just tried to redeem this game on the app but despite it being advertised for me as a game I can redeem for free, whenever I go to the store page for the game it doesn't give me an option to purchase it, it just says "Play on Xbox One" and when I press that it starts searching for Xbox consoles on my network which is pointless because I don't own the game or have it installed so I can't play it either way, and I'm not currently near my Xbox. I also redeemed Bomberman R and that went fine, I could buy it in the app and there were separate options for buying the game and playing it on Xbox One. I don't know if this is an issue specifically for back compat games but it's really annoying. I had the same issue with AC:Rogue earlier this month too.

never tried that way before? just redeem it from my console.

Conor · Feb 17, 2019

I was gonna make a poll for this but I don't think I can yet. With Keyboard and Mouse support now available and the Play anywhere programme, would anyone here be interested in playing traditionally KB+M PC games, Like Civilization, AoE, DotA 2, ones that wouldn't really work with a pad, on console if it was supported?

Deleted member 53021 · Feb 17, 2019

So happy that it seems many people are enjoying crackdown 3 from some of the responses here on, twitter and even YouTube comments section..from my experience from my higher education where u do a lot of reviews..you always do a review by gauging what you intend to review against a set of indicators that have similarities or something homogeneous about them...one I reviewer must be actually immersed in what he wants to review and that's the first flaw for these gaming websites and YouTubers..how the hell would you even review a game like crackdown 3 when u have no intention of playing it or getting immersed in the games world?...second you don't say you are reviewing crackdown 3 then expect the game to assume certain qualities of games from different genres or budget lines...in this sense these reviewer should have looked at what the early versions of crackdown had that made them resonate with fans and if these things were present in the crackdown 3 game n how it was carried forward into the game n how games in the crackdown 3 genre has evolved over the years and if the crackdown 3 game was able to uphold some of these identified evolutions but none of these were done but it was sole based on their sentiments not even taken into consideration the subjective element of gaming..it is great seeing the positive response after all the undeserved mob thrashing of the game on YouTube and other Platforms

Deleted member 48991 · Feb 17, 2019

Mington said:
A successor to Metro that's based in the London Underground after the apocalypse has destroyed the U.K. would be amazing.

The tube is iconic what with Kings Cross.

Gameplay would be similar to Metro as well

They should collaborate with Splash Damage on that :o (Dirty Bomb from Splash Damage takes place in a post apocalyptic London - there is even already a map set in the Underground)

Pitchfork · Feb 17, 2019

The (Pan)cake is a lie

knightmawk · Feb 17, 2019

Wow, first Square Enix a do now Rockstar? Xbox is really stepping up their acquisition game.

SaintJonathan · Feb 17, 2019

knightmawk said:
Wow, first Square Enix a do now Rockstar? Xbox is really stepping up their acquisition game.

Man, could you imagine the literal meltdown if Microsoft bought Rockstar?

Morgoth Bauglir · Feb 17, 2019

rokkerkory said:
MS needs to buy 4A studios... they have super high level of technical prowess and story telling is great.

IDK, Ucraine is not the safest place in the planet, Russia in crimea, nazbol in the east of the country and the goverment supports officially neonazist troops.

Regis said:
I'm replying Quantum Break and i can't stop asking to myself ¿What the hell were the reviewers thinking while playing the fucking game?

It's sad that many msft games were doomed to became cult only after the release.

daniel77733 said:
Agree in regards to Min. Far Cry 4 is my favorite game out of those that I have played which has been every one since Far Cry 3. I prefer the old formula and setup compared to the new one. The light RPG elements aren't bad or anything. They just don't fit with what Far Cry is meant to be.

They don't fit anything which is not a real full fledged rpg, rpg lite are only cheap ways to make the game longer and balancing the game quickly

scabobbs said:
First off, how long did this take you type? Second, its not forums its the entire gaming media... reviews are bad?

I'm obsessive and autistic, nevermind. I hurts me to don't reply everything.
I was just saying that if the core gamers hate it, doesn't mean it wont find its pubblic.

Sexyphobe said:
No matter your thoughts on Crackdown, or what method you bought to play it, we can all agree there are worse ways to spend your money. Like putting it into a Peter Molyneux Kickstarter.

Immagine a Todd Howard kickstarted

BioDigital Jazzman said:
I have nothing against metro and I don't think it's a bad game. I just thick the odds are stacked against it and I don't think it will find success. On the console side it's facing apex and to a lesser extent Anthem next week. Both are multiplayer games that will find their audience.

It also comes out the same day as far cry and while I don't think that game will do gangbusters, it's a bigger brand and it has its fans.

I'm more scared for anthem right now

Terbinator said:
With CD3 out now, what else do we have coming this year / expected to come other than Ori? Shit's pretty bleak atm.

gears 5 and Pop, maybe tactics, battletoads, maybe age of empire 2 definitive edition, maybe the ninja theory new ip which is in work since 2014(we assume that it will release before 2020 due to its current gen nature).
Plus Wasteland 3 is a given on gamepass, and maybe even the outur wolrds.
Then we have the post launch support for other titles:
Fh4 second dlc
cuphead delicious last curse
Sea of thieves mega update
We Happy few dlcs(scheduled 3 dlcs)
Something about state of decay

Conor said:
I was gonna make a poll for this but I don't think I can yet. With Keyboard and Mouse support now available and the Play anywhere programme, would anyone here be interested in playing traditionally KB+M PC games, Like Civilization, AoE, DotA 2, ones that wouldn't really work with a pad, on console if it was supported?

AoE1de and Rise of nation were spotted months ago

Windu · Feb 17, 2019

Conor said:
I was gonna make a poll for this but I don't think I can yet. With Keyboard and Mouse support now available and the Play anywhere programme, would anyone here be interested in playing traditionally KB+M PC games, Like Civilization, AoE, DotA 2, ones that wouldn't really work with a pad, on console if it was supported?

absolutely.

Deleted member 4761 · Feb 17, 2019

Capixaba said:
now just missing the R to complete Rockstar on the pancakes

BladeRunner2099 · Feb 17, 2019

Rodeo Clown said:
No Forza this year. Turn 10 turned FM7 into a live service and still updates it every month. They're promising the March update will be the biggest one yet.

And, really, it doesn't make sense for them to rush out a Forza Motorsport this year when next gen is next year and a theoretical FM8 is a major showpiece for new hardware.

Frankly, I would have liked FH5 to take the mantle for the showpiece for Scarlett in 2020. FH5 with its diverse seasons, locations and PG/Turn 10 Engine have really surpassed FM, so I would hope its FH5.

FM8, even if it is really good has limited legs compared to what FH5. There is a reason FM7 still has no " X Million players" announcement because its not as big as it once was.

Simply put, FH5 will sell consoles in Europe ( Thats why its bundled) whereas FM8 won't.

BioDigital Jazzman · Feb 17, 2019

BladeRunner2099 said:
Frankly, I would have liked FH5 to take the mantle for the showpiece for Scarlett in 2020. FH5 with its diverse seasons, locations and PG/Turn 10 Engine have really surpassed FM, so I would hope its FH5.

FM8, even if it is really good has limited legs compared to what FH5. There is a reason FM7 still has no " X Million players" announcement because its not as big as it once was.

Simply put, FH5 will sell consoles in Europe ( Thats why its bundled) whereas FM8 won't.

Having it come the next holiday still works well because MS can rely on halo infinite to carry the weight at launch and the first holiday can rely on Horizon 5 and maybe a fable etc instead of Motorsport

BladeRunner2099 · Feb 17, 2019

BioDigital Jazzman said:
Having it come the next holiday still works well because MS can rely on halo infinite to carry the weight at launch and the first holiday can rely on Horizon 5 and maybe a fable etc instead of Motorsport

To quote Former Xbox head, Peter Moore: " The first to 10 Million wins".

MS needs all the arsenal it needs to start big, hit all the right notes at launch. Doesn't get bigger than FH and Halo releasing in Fall 2020, FM will blow minds with RTX, DLSS, Bells & Whistles at E3 but will it sell consoles?

I like FM and I really like FM7 doing GaaS right but FH is bigger and bigger is what Xbox needs in Fall 2020.

Sandbox · Feb 17, 2019

Morgoth Bauglir said:
IDK, Ucraine is not the safest place in the planet, Russia in crimea, nazbol in the east of the country and the goverment supports officially neonazist troops.

They moved the studio to Malta several years ago , So there is no concern if Microsoft decides to acquired them

Tappin Brews · Feb 17, 2019

i think FM really needs a refresh. i dont expect (but dream about) more of a real world physics push and motorsports feel, complete with career progression and rules, but the same formula just feels so stale these days. something ala gt sports, as maligned as that was at launch, would be welcomed by me.

Atisha · Feb 17, 2019

Zymespee said:
So happy that it seems many people are enjoying crackdown 3 from some of the responses here on, twitter and even YouTube comments section..from my experience from my higher education where u do a lot of reviews..you always do a review by gauging what you intend to review against a set of indicators that have similarities or something homogeneous about them...one I reviewer must be actually immersed in what he wants to review and that's the first flaw for these gaming websites and YouTubers..how the hell would you even review a game like crackdown 3 when u have no intention of playing it or getting immersed in the games world?...second you don't say you are reviewing crackdown 3 then expect the game to assume certain qualities of games from different genres or budget lines...in this sense these reviewer should have looked at what the early versions of crackdown had that made them resonate with fans and if these things were present in the crackdown 3 game n how it was carried forward into the game n how games in the crackdown 3 genre has evolved over the years and if the crackdown 3 game was able to uphold some of these identified evolutions but none of these were done but it was sole based on their sentiments not even taken into consideration the subjective element of gaming..it is great seeing the positive response after all the undeserved mob thrashing of the game on YouTube and other Platforms

Makes sense. Thanks for the breakdown. So i've been wondering how, the reviews bomb, but the overwhelming glut of players response is a chorus of cheers?

Deleted member 53021 · Feb 17, 2019

Atisha said:
Makes sense. Thanks for the breakdown. So i've been wondering how, the reviews bomb, but the overwhelming glut of players response is a chorus of cheers?

The key thing here is overwhelming glut of positive players response n I don't have to explain why something positive is a chorus for cheers...unless u tell me what players matters no more

Morgoth Bauglir · Feb 17, 2019

BladeRunner2099 said:
Frankly, I would have liked FH5 to take the mantle for the showpiece for Scarlett in 2020. FH5 with its diverse seasons, locations and PG/Turn 10 Engine have really surpassed FM, so I would hope its FH5.

FM8, even if it is really good has limited legs compared to what FH5. There is a reason FM7 still has no " X Million players" announcement because its not as big as it once was.

Simply put, FH5 will sell consoles in Europe ( Thats why its bundled) whereas FM8 won't.

All the FM sold extremely well, but they had to face a way harsher competition from other racing games, like project cars, gt, assetto corsa, dirt rally and so on.
Horizon had no rivals in its genre(the crew 2 and need for speed payback look like a pr stunt for the horizon saga).
Being a fucking showcase, the first racing in the generation would be a massive win. They just had to switch to a live service model instead of three games for generation(even if the xCloud thing makes the term "generation" outdated) and they will do fine.
Plus it will be the best showcase for scarlett at launch.

BioDigital Jazzman said:
Having it come the next holiday still works well because MS can rely on halo infinite to carry the weight at launch and the first holiday can rely on Horizon 5 and maybe a fable etc instead of Motorsport

You got right

Sandbox said:
They moved the studio to Malta several years ago , So there is no concern if Microsoft decides to acquired them

ah fine for them.
I mean it's sad they had to move the entire business but at least they don't work in a militarizing country

op_ivy said:
i think FM really needs a refresh. i dont expect (but dream about) more of a real world physics push and motorsports feel, complete with career progression and rules, but the same formula just feels so stale these days. something ala gt sports, as maligned as that was at launch, would be welcomed by me.

Well I don't see sport games evolve rapidly. The thing is that they are bounded to their genre.

Tappin Brews · Feb 17, 2019

Morgoth Bauglir said:
Well I don't see sport games evolve rapidly. The thing is that they are bounded to their genre.

i disagree. you could have a massive shift in fm, if thats what they wanted. fm has shifted more and more to a jack of all trades, casual friendly sim, car collector game offering a variety of different things, some barely related to proper motorsport racing. i big shift back towards a real racing discipline(s), ala gt sport/pcars/asseto etc, would feel completely new/fresh.

BladeRunner2099 · Feb 17, 2019

Morgoth Bauglir said:
All the FM sold extremely well, but they had to face a way harsher competition from other racing games, like project cars, gt, assetto corsa, dirt rally and so on.
Horizon had no rivals in its genre(the crew 2 and need for speed payback look like a pr stunt for the horizon saga).
Being a fucking showcase, the first racing in the generation would be a massive win. They just had to switch to a live service model instead of three games for generation(even if the xCloud thing makes the term "generation" outdated) and they will do fine.
Plus it will be the best showcase for scarlett at launch.

Honest question, you think even a fantastic FM8 at launch will sell consoles in Europe? If the idea is just to show the graphical chops, FH5 will be in no way inferior. FM7 is an 86% metacritic, which is quite good, still didn't sell anywhere near FH3/FH4 ( Maybe being on GP would have helped).

Xbox needs to be intelligent, FM7 launched alongside Xbox One X, how many consoles did it sell? I am probably wrong and FM might be fantasic and FH5 with 3 years of dev will do wonders but the hype of launching alongside a next gen console can't be the same.

daniel77733 · Feb 17, 2019

Regis said:
I'm replying Quantum Break and i can't stop asking to myself ¿What the hell were the reviewers thinking while playing the fucking game?

It has a 77 open/meta critic which isn't bad at all. I personally rated it a 7.0/10 (good) as there's several things that I simply didn't like or enjoy. Wouldn't mind an actual sequel but at the same time, we're kind of getting that with Control.

Rodeo Clown · Feb 17, 2019

Reviews for it were solid, but Forza Motorsport 7 wasn't well-received by the community at launch. It wasn't as fully-featured, the economy wasn't balanced, it had blind car boxes, and they tried to screw over their biggest fans by limiting what the VIP pass did. It really wasn't until the November update that it felt like FM7 was where it should've been, but we're still waiting on big updates like race regulations.

Not that the Horizon series isn't a lot more popular, but FH4 didn't have these kinds of issues.

Morgoth Bauglir · Feb 17, 2019

https://www.resetera.com/threads/xb...-plays-we-all-win.94058/page-36#post-17216660

"brand new Horde, and different PvP experience "

hmqgg is hinting that we will see again the cloud in gears 5?

Panic Freak · Feb 17, 2019

So it looks like we won't be seeing anymore Crackdown anytime soon. Those UK sales... oof.

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