You mean Obsidian knowing anything about the PS5? I very much doubt that. That circle is probably small still and only for first party.
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You have to remember the game probably spent most of its development time funded by Kickstarter though, i've no doubt Phil's cheques will improve the title but would be cautious about expecting too much from something mostly developed without it
Not specifically Obsidian, but any unannounced acquisitions that may be privy to that information which is surely available around GDC.
Make PD a single-player focused game would be a mistake in my opinion.
Both single player and multiplayer were equally important in PD and PDZ (and the multiplayer was actually what made PDZ a popular game during X360 early years).
It would be like making Halo a single player game with a poor or no multiplayer at all.
Doubt its much. Dont think Sony is holding meetings about PS5 at GDC with info etc.
Like i said. Think the circle is small. When its getting bigger we get the leaks about power etc.
This April 1st post actually is April fool's joke, partially. Never heard Gears Tactics would be port to Switch.
But Super Lucky's Tale is confirmed.
I think we'll see Sea of Thieves supported ala Minecraft for some time into the new console generation. As long as there is a big enough player base, and the soonish release of micro transactions will help.
Rare should continue to work on what they'd like- whether it's new IP or revisiting old.
However, MS is absolutely sitting on a gold mine of old Rare IP. Whether or not Rare themselves help handle the development with another studio (like battletoads) or MSGP partners with someone, I really hope we see something more than Killer Instinct next gen. A Viva Pinanta remake for mobile/Switch/Xbox is the very definition of easy money. Anything done with Banjo that can reach Nintendo fans is also a no-brainer. A reimagined Jet Force Gemini done with the care of the Ratchet and Clank reboot would be awesome. Perfect Dark 2 as a Deus Ex or Splinter Cell-like game would be a dream. Kameo, Conker, the list goes on and on. In the past I could see MS being gunshy on funding these types of projects, but now with GamePass I'm hoping we see some of these get the green light.
Rare should continue to work on what they'd like- whether it's new IP or revisiting old.
However, MS is absolutely sitting on a gold mine of old Rare IP. Whether or not Rare themselves help handle the development with another studio (like battletoads) or MSGP partners with someone, I really hope we see something more than Killer Instinct next gen. A Viva Pinanta remake for mobile/Switch/Xbox is the very definition of easy money. Anything done with Banjo that can reach Nintendo fans is also a no-brainer. A reimagined Jet Force Gemini done with the care of the Ratchet and Clank reboot would be awesome. Perfect Dark 2 as a Deus Ex or Splinter Cell-like game would be a dream. Kameo, Conker, the list goes on and on. In the past I could see MS being gunshy on funding these types of projects, but now with GamePass I'm hoping we see some of these get the green light.
Yeah like i said when i read Gears Tactics i knew it was a april fools joke. If you only had said Ori 2 and Super Lucky Tales i probably would have believed it.
Hitman Absolution, Banjo-Kazooie Nuts & Bolts, Dead Space 3.. These games tried to change the formula/genre they were known for (when it was not required at all) : they failed or (almost) killed the IP.
Moreover, I read that Deus Ex MD sales were somewhat disappointing. If there is a new PD, I expect it being a shooter with optionnal stealth elements (like PD 64) and a multiplayer with its own identity (like PDZ).
I don't think that MS would risk another Nuts & Bolts disaster.
It's been almost 15 years since the last Perfect Dark game. A new entry in the series would almost definitely have more new fans than existing ones. MS could bring it back however they want without have the fan pushback that the 3 franchises you mention had.
Personally I would rather see it as a 3rd person stealth title rather than another shooter. MS doesn't have one of those in their portfolio yet.
A Perfect Dark take on the Splinter Cell formula? Yes please!
I'm not expecting any massive overhaul but I imagine they don't have to worry about QA, internal testing, patches etc so I imagine that it'll have polish that it wouldn't have had if MS wasn't inXile's new sugar daddy
Eww..maybe if this was 2004 but after Devils Turd MS needs to stay away from him, dude is damaged goods
Phil should be talking to Koei, Sega and Square to get Nioh/2 the Yakuza games, KH Story so far and Persona on the platform
Hell putting those games on Game Pass would send subs through the roof (unlikely to happen but you never know)
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You can't just dismiss the guy for one bad game. That's stupid.
As for the rest I agree. They should make more more effort into getting those game on Xbox instead of wasting money and resources into games like Crackdown and what not.
No..but we can dismiss him because he hasn't done anything noteworthy since the OG Ninja Gaiden, even NG2 Wasn't that good (was still a solid game)
I wonder what Phil is currently up to in Japan/ Korea.. How many deals have been signed? Any acquisitions? E3 can't come soon enough. :)
A proper Banjo game given the right budget and dev team could be something special.
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Rare I has multiple new IPs going on as we speak. At least 2 as of I know today.
I think its wide knowledge at this point that Ninja Theory is making a game called Bleeding Edge or at least that's the name that's being thrown around. Not sure if its actual title or a codename.
As for old Rare IPs. I have good relations with Rare. From what I understood with my previous conversation I had with them and talks, older IPs would be handled by different studios if something was to be made or rebooted. A good example of that is last year's announced Battletoads. A game that's supervised by Rare but NOT developed by Rare.
But as a company themselves, they want to strictly focus on new things.
EDIT - if mods want physical proof of my relationship with Rare feel free to PM.
I believe so, in Rare Replay, right? Although I didn't care for that more serious and grounded Kameo concept art, I wouldn't want a potential sequel to go in that direction.
This would be so dope.
Probably asking publishers / developers to show games at their stage.
I think most people thought that there was one new game being developed personally by rare. But the at least two new games would explain why they are growing so much
Finally, we could get that Ken Griffey Jr's Winning Run sequel that we've all been waiting for!
Not really.
If this is all true, the two new games part makes me happy. The old IPs part pisses me off. It basically just confirms what I was ranting about earlier in the thread. :(
I know you guys want old IP's from Rare, but, as a creative person it should be tiring to read some posts in here if you are an Rare employee, let them work on what they want! Rare is all about trying new things, they shouldn't be tied to old IP's, imagine working on something very unique right now and then all you see are people saying that you should work again on something you already worked 20 years ago!
Rare should be all about new IP's, these guys know how to make games with unique takes, I can't wait to see their next new IP.
Rare should be all about new IP's, these guys know how to make games with unique takes, I can't wait to see their next new IP.
Going by the style of Ninja Theory normally their games are usually fast paced action games for example Heavenly Sword, DMC Reboot, Enslaved and so on. With the budget that they have now I am thinking something along the lines of a hardcore action game - but this an opinion not a confirmation.
While they still have a number of veterans who worked on Battletoads, DKC, B-K, Conker and Viva Pinata at Rare, they also have a lot of fresh blood working there now. Rare's old IPs would be new to them.
Some of the original devs have even entertained the thought of returning to their old IPs. Most notably Gregg Mayles, who was one of the main creatives (if not THE main creative force) behind Banjo-Kazooie.
That said, I think "the new IP from Rare and old IP from ext. devs" split is a fine solution. And internal Rare devs like Gregg Mayles could still be part of a theoretical Banjo-Threeie project by an independent studio.
Gregg Mayles has said he doesn't want to revisit older stuff without a real good reason to do so, and it sounds like the 'good reason' is not necessarily easy to come by, i.e. it's 'We wanna do new shit with this stuff'. Nuts and Bolts was a result of this: they made a BK game, but not simply BK3. They changed it up considerably (and for my money, almost pulled off a masterpiece. It's still a damn fine game in my book). It's up to him and others, as it should be.
If Rare dont want to make games in certain IPs that is fine, but then they must be constantly looking for people who do want to do them because there is a fanbase for these titles and they should be served. Find the right team with the right idea and see what happens
Or let global publishing look for teams. Dont really care who oversees it, happy they're doing Battletoads with Dlala, and KI did well without them. Bring me Banjo, Conker, Perfect Dark, Sabreman, Viva Pinata and Kameo
Or let global publishing look for teams. Dont really care who oversees it, happy they're doing Battletoads with Dlala, and KI did well without them. Bring me Banjo, Conker, Perfect Dark, Sabreman, Viva Pinata and Kameo
My point was that he's not ruling it out completely.
You're right that they're probably not going to make it in-house unless they have a really fresh idea for it though.
Oh aye, he and others have never said 'NEVER AGAIN!', thankfully, but it's rightly a matter, it seems, of the right time, team and approach, not simply 'when'.
Side note: I can only imagine how many job interviewees Rare get who say, when asked why they want to work there, 'OMFG GREG MAYLES CAN I BE YOUR DESIGN BITCH??' Perhaps in not so many words...
I have 0 game design experience, other than prototyping board games, and yet Rare is like dream job land.
Side note: I can only imagine how many job interviewees Rare get who say, when asked why they want to work there, 'OMFG GREG MAYLES CAN I BE YOUR DESIGN BITCH??' Perhaps in not so many words...
I have 0 game design experience, other than prototyping board games, and yet Rare is like dream job land.
If Rare don't want to work on their IP then they should let MS find other studios to take them on. The way Rare currently handle their IP is a travesty.
They've already been through a couple of waves of this. Several of the devs who joined Rare in the 90s and early 2000s were fans of Ultimate Play the Game, for instance.
And now they have fans of their 90s games in their ranks. I guess there will be Viva Pinata, Kinect Sports and Sea of Thieves fans working there in a decade or two. :)
They released one of the best collections this generation with their games.
On top, what you just said is exactly what they are doing.
Yup, Rare would be perfect for making smaller 6-8 high quality games ala Ratchet and Clank 2016. The dev time would be shorter, perfect for Game Pass as well.
Would do wonders for getting the Nintendo crowd on board with Game Pass too.
That's exactly what I want out of a new Banjo game, small and clever levels.
Banjo. It all depends on Gregg really in my opinion. If he would ask Craig if he could've 30 people from the teams at Rare or so to create a new Banjo game, he for sure would get this opportunity. However I don't feel like he wants to do that yet - and that's perfectly fine.
On the one hand I always read here that devs should create what they want to create - but if they do so like Rare (clearly) does, it's suddenly not the right thing either.
Just let them do their thing.
On the one hand I always read here that devs should create what they want to create - but if they do so like Rare (clearly) does, it's suddenly not the right thing either.
Just let them do their thing.
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We already got a sequel, Ken Griffey Jr's Slugfest for the N64. Which, funnily enough wasn't developed by Rare, but instead by Angel Studios A.K.A Rockstar San Diego.
But yeah, I was just making shit up about Rare doing a baseball game, not knowing they actually made one!
But I guess, since they did make one in the past, Rare definitely isn't making one now.
Are there more examples of this happening other than Battletoads? Feels more like they're experimenting with the idea than actually pursuing it, but I guess that's a positive start.
Oh yeah there's KI too
I would like to see Microsoft do more with first party entries in the MechWarrior franchise.
I'd also like to see a sequel to Quantum Break, but that seems very unlikely at this point.
I'd also like to see a sequel to Quantum Break, but that seems very unlikely at this point.
ResetEra circa 2039:
"Where's my Sea of Thieves 2 on my Xbox 6, Rare?!?!"
Haha yeah, they've made soooooooo many games throughout their existence that I bet there's many other games you'll be surprised that they've made lol. Go and look up their NES lineup. Some eyebrow raising stuff in there.
Saying that Rare doesn't hand off their IPs to other studios enough is a bit of a strange opinion to have at this point. Besides the Battletoads and KI examples, you also have all the shit other devs have done with Conker in recent years and there are even Perfect Dark rumors buzzing around.
So no, technically how Rare is generally handling their IPs isn't necessarily a travesty (well, except in Conker's case). How they're handling them INTERNALLY is definitely a travesty IMO.
The recent happenings in the PC space seem to show more than in a while that you don't need Steam if you want to go your own way. If you develop solid social features and a decent storefront, gamers will go where your games are if the games themselves are appealing. At this point in time, I believe less in "you need to have your game on Steam" than I have in years.
Obviously, that means your services on PC need to be good, and as we all know MS has some work to do on that front. The new overlay that's in preview as of a few days ago seems like a pretty good start, looking forward to seeing the experience they'll provide in other areas on PC.
Everyone should be in this mindset about Rare's IPs. There are definitely opportunities with them, those probably won't come from Rare themselves, and that's okay.
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