They stated in a stream a while ago that they still kept certain elements of the original engine.
Yeah but this could be the same as how Source still uses Quake 1 code.
They stated in a stream a while ago that they still kept certain elements of the original engine.
And this is where I disagree (and MS in certain ways, too, as MAU seems to be their measurement for success) :)
And this is where I disagree (and MS in certain ways, too, as MAU seems to be their measurement for success) :)
Also, I've heard all of the stuff you listed after Crackdown 1 already ... And then after Crackdown 3. And yet, today here we are, with the next installment. And talking about growth, I think I'm not crazy for saying that CD3 will reach more people than CD1 and CD2 combined.
In addition, the dev time you talk about there is highly inflated by the cloud destruction they developed. The campaign didn't need anywhere close this time. A hypothetical CD4 should be a campaign/co-op game, no experiments this time.
That's the beauty. People shouldn't be thinking purchasing First party games anymore.
Thats the gift from MS.
But haven't they pushed for early release and perks for buying? I'm really still confused on what best supports the devs (aside from just playing)That's the beauty. People shouldn't be thinking purchasing First party games anymore.
Thats the gift from MS.
I mean, I'm buying Halo Infinite's collector edition no matter what
Yes. But people say like "i gamepass that game" like its a bad thing. While its good thing and maybe even helping Xbox more.Didn't Phil or someone say that gamepass isn't supposed to replace purchasing games regularly, but to complement it?
I mean, I'm buying Halo Infinite's collector edition no matter what
Yes. But people say like "i gamepass that game" like its a bad thing. While its good thing and maybe even helping Xbox more.
This is exactly how I got into the sunset overdrive and metro series. I had just got an S, got a 14 day game pass freetrial a downloaded it and fell in love with itYup, and probably other editions of future games or new IPs if they're good.
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Yeah, sometimes it's sad how they try to downplay the value of such an amazing service and its games.
For me, the value of Game Pass is that it allows me to get a taste of games and franchises I've never played or I'm not sure about for just a few bucks. Then, I can decide if I want to continue playing more or not, maybe even buy the full game (or, again, maybe not). It's about choice.
For instance, I've never been a huge Crackdown fan, but I definitely want to play Crackdown 3. This month, I'm subscribing to Game Pass just for this game. And no, it's not the typical game pass excuse ("I'll just Game Pass this game so I don't have to pay 60 bucks" or so). If Xbox Game Pass didn't exist, I'd probably not even bother, since I can't afford to buy every game I have a minimum interest in.
After all, it's a win-win situation. I get to try Crackdown 3 (and more) for just a few bucks, and Microsoft is getting some revenue from me which, otherwise, wouldn't exist. And there is a chance that I end up buying the full game or resubscribing if I like Crackdown 3 or I see something else I want to play.
CD3 being successful on Game Pass alone won't be enough.
It still needs be a viable game at retail as a AAA game.
More importantly, degrees of success matter.
MS spent nearly 5 years develop the game with all manner of obstacles leading to set back after set back. Even if that wasn't the case, it's not enough to be moderate success, it needs to be a clear success that justifies a sequel and further investment in the growth of the franchise.
In that regard, I have doubts CD3 will be successful enough to warrant greenlighting a sequel. Granted, I could be dead wrong about that, but I think it's a reasonable concern.
Quite pessimistically, I don't think CD3 will find a large enough audience and substantial enough success for MS to justify funding a sequel, even if the turn around on that would be far shorter than the development period for this CD3.
Regardless of whether it's CD4 or not, I do think MS will and should continue to working with Sumo Digital.
Yup, and probably other editions of future games or new IPs if they're good.
My uncle works at Microsoft, so I get to test some of these games beforehand ;)But how will you know you want to buy the CE if you haven't pla.........aaw snap!
My uncle works at Microsoft, so I get to test some of these games beforehand ;)
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I usually don't buy games at launch and wait a few days or weeks for reactions, opinions and review scores, and then decide based on all that.
However, if it's Halo I pre-order the LE months in advance.
I would love a new sci-fi RPG from Xbox, but I'd much prefer it were not Halo related.
In that regard, I have doubts CD3 will be successful enough to warrant greenlighting a sequel. Granted, I could be dead wrong about that, but I think it's a reasonable concern.
Regardless of whether it's CD4 or not, I do think MS will and should continue to working with Sumo Digital.
So much of Crackdown's dev costs will be treated as R&D. They were literally building new technology that will undoubtedly influence games outside the Crackdown franchise. So crackdown sales won't be the only way to measure ROI.
Any CD sequel will cost much less and will have a shorter dev cycle. Anyone considering greenlighting a sequel will take that into account.
Beyond all that, I'm thinking Crackdown will meet or exceed internal expectations- not just because of gamepass- but because it's legit fun.
I have no doubt Crackdown will succeed in its own right and produce a sequel. Whether that will be a direct sequel, or a new direction for the game is another question.I don't get both of these arguments tbh.
State of Decay isn't critically acclaimed, yet one of Xbox most successful franchises. Same for Sea of Thieves. No one is doubting these franchises will get further games/support, no?
And no, a hypothetical CD4 doesn't need a "reboot". Why?
The "Orbs" are strongly connected to the Xbox mind share. I can only see CD3 being a success, it seems to be the perfect Game Pass game.
Whatever they will do with the franchise next though - I'm sure they will learn from their marketing mistakes around the whole cloud topic.
I would love a new sci-fi RPG from Xbox, but I'd much prefer it were not Halo related.
I would love a new sci-fi RPG from Xbox, but I'd much prefer it were not Halo related.
Yup, exactly!!
Of course, and for that reason I wouldn't be surprised if Crackdown 4 happened, I'm just not confident enough that MS will think that's enough to justify funding it if those resources can be better spent on another title with perhaps more obvious appeal in the current climate.
The technology works. It was presumably designed to be very pliable to different kinds of games for different kinds of cloud computing.
Unless the numbers are there, I see MS taking that tech and using it elsewhere.
I don't think Crackdown 4 is a long shot by any means, but I do think it's something MS will have to think about for a minute before they they decide to sign off on it or not.
Tnx we are closeApparently it's early hours of the 14th, at least that's the last that I saw here.
I mean, I'm buying Halo Infinite's collector edition no matter what
if im in a good place in life when it comes to money then same.I mean, I'm buying Halo Infinite's collector edition no matter what
Totally agree and if we can someone working NightCaster 3, that would be wonderful.
Why not?The fact you even mention NightCaster is unbelievable enough but Spencer has been on record to say that game is never coming back