They haven't announced anything
How often beforehand do they usually announce an inside xbox?
A week or two before I believe.
There is no 'cartoony perception'. That's a silly console warrior thing and people like that should not be taken seriously. The reason Bleeding Edge and Grounded had negative reception were not because of their visuals but because they were games that were not in expected genre and styles coming from Obsidian and Ninja Theory. There is no reality where the mixed reception of Bleeding Edge was thanks to it's visuals.
Also, what is this discussion about engines? UE4 is as good as any first party offering. It's why it's one of the succesful engines in the market.
You guys can't say that it's only a silly console warrior thing when there are certainly people that aren't into the whole console war stuff that have had similar thoughts. And yes the type of games also had much to do with it but I don't see how the art style really helps how these games are viewed. Outer Worlds was neither super realistic nor super "cartoony", it had more of a middle ground look to it.Bleeding Edge's negative response was due to its genre, same as Grounded. Two studios operating in genres they usually don't, both are also AA games. The game prior to Grounded also didn't aim for photo realism (Outer Worlds), labeling anything that doesn't aim to be photo realistic as "cartoony" or "colourful" is already setting an argument/discussion up for failure. I'm only seeing this "Xbox Template/cartoony game perception" from console warriors who seem to be selectively blind, there is a world of difference between Everwild and Battletoads or Gears and Flight sim.
Oh okay :(
The time where we speculated on studios was 100x more interesting than whatever is happening here these days.
Yes I can, because that is console warrior nonsense. The average person has preferences, not console warrior "templates" and "cartoony perceptions." Why couldn't their art styles be a benefit like with many other successful games, you seem to be letting your own preferences influence your argument. We are in a bubble, a forum/twitter/hardcore communities, the biggest games in the world are Fortnite and Minecraft. But like I said at the start the argument was already tired, so to avoid repeating the same points that have been repeated in previous OT's ad nauseam, that's it for me.You guys can't say that it's only a silly console warrior thing when there are certainly people that aren't into the whole console war stuff that have had similar thoughts. And yes the type of games also had much to do with it but I don't see how the art style really helps how these games are viewed. Outer Worlds was neither super realistic nor super "cartoony", it had more of a middle ground look to it.
As for the UE thing, I think you guys are getting the wrong idea that I have something against it. I just found it interesting how widely it's been adopted by MS studios as a whole either by choice or by necessity,.
Phil should acquire a studio every year so we can speculate.The time where we speculated on studios was 100x more interesting than whatever is happening here these days.
You're dismissing it as console warrior nonsense and not thinking there are actually people who perceive these games (and Xbox to an extent) a certain way regardless of what that number might be.Yes I can, because that is console warrior nonsense. The average person has preferences, not console warrior "templates" and "cartoony perceptions." Why couldn't their art styles be a benefit, you seem to be letting your own preferences influence your argument. We are in a bubble, a forum/twitter/hardcore communities, the biggest games in the world are Fortnite and Minecraft.
I guess if you want to get into this whole JP studio thing Hajime Tabata & Hideo Baba are "free agents" if you will so they wouldn't be bad picks if you want to start a new studio in Japan. You can always get the staff they'd want to work with again from previous games similar to what Hideo Kojima did with Kojima Productions. Outside of that it's extremely hard to say who would fit MS's criteria outside of maybe being a AA studio that can mutually benefit from being acquired.Couldn't possibly agree more. I'm very excited to see what comes of Phil's recent/current trip to Japan. Very encouraged, and curious about whether or not they actually scoop up a Japanese studio, or create their own.
Who said console warriors aren't people ¯\_(ツ)_/¯You're dismissing it as console warrior nonsense and not thinking there are actually people who perceive these games (and Xbox to an extent) a certain way regardless of what that number might be
I think I've made it clear that I don't actually mind these types of games if they're good and we see more realistic types of games from their studios. I also think that yes there is a bit of truth to how these game's styles may affect people's perception of Xbox's 1st party image at least so far.
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Okay that was good lol
Major Nelson said he was trying to get Matt Booty on his podcast for the next episode, so that might be something. I think those are monthly. So sometime in February. And Phil Spencer will be on that gamertag radio podcast soon (feb 10th I think). So at least there might be news next month from those.
Now it's "CPU, GPU, RAM don't mean shit compared to SSD speeds!"First it was "MS doesn't have the power"
then it's "ms doesn't have any games"
now it's "the games aren't photorealistic"
these goalposts always shifting lmao
Real reason is the next Xbox won't be made by Sony.Now it's "CPU, GPU, RAM don't mean shit compared to SSD speeds!"
The time where we speculated on studios was 100x more interesting than whatever is happening here these days.
Lol. Are people really saying this?Now it's "CPU, GPU, RAM don't mean shit compared to SSD speeds!"
First it was "MS doesn't have the power"
then it's "ms doesn't have any games"
now it's "the games aren't photorealistic"
these goalposts always shifting lmao
Now it's "CPU, GPU, RAM don't mean shit compared to SSD speeds!"
With the amount of games coming out from XGS in the first half of the year, I assume we'll have to at least get an episode of Inside Xbox soon.It seems like there is only really a PS event expected to occur in the next month or two.
I wish we had some idea of when we could expect an Xbox reveal. I know GDC is coming up, but I don't expect much to be talked about beforehand or even during.
This hype for a new generation seems to be high than ever, earlier than ever, and I'm afraid we'll actually be waiting until May for some kind of Xbox event. Feelsbadman.
I can't agree more with everything you say. I really hope the next game from Dontnod will be better (I haven't played Vampyr yet).
That's true. I'll be looking forward to that at least.With the amount of games coming out from XGS in the first half of the year, I assume we'll have to at least get an episode of Inside Xbox soon.
I wasn't able to finish Vampyr.I can't agree more with everything you say. I really hope the next game from Dontnod will be better (I haven't played Vampyr yet).
I'd only expect a digital foundry like article talking about the specs before GDC just like they did with Xbox One X. Basically to get ahead of the inevitable leaks. Beyond that, I wouldn't expect anything till E3. Really not much to talk about tbh. Just need to know the price/date and what the games look like. We basically know everything else that they are doing.It seems like there is only really a PS event expected to occur in the next month or two.
I wish we had some idea of when we could expect an Xbox reveal. I know GDC is coming up, but I don't expect much to be talked about beforehand or even during.
This hype for a new generation seems to be high than ever, earlier than ever, and I'm afraid we'll actually be waiting until May for some kind of Xbox event. Feelsbadman.
I'd only expect a digital foundry like article talking about the specs before GDC just like they did with Xbox One X. Basically to get ahead of the inevitable leaks. Beyond that, I wouldn't expect anything till E3. Really not much to talk about tbh. Just need to know the price/date and what the games look like. We basically know everything else that they are doing.
I've finished A Plague Tale (15h32m).
What a experience!
Emotional, beautiful and with a superb writing. It made me care deeply it's cast and hate the antagonists so much! Also, I've been saying this since ObsCure, but Olivier Deriviere is one of the best OST creators in the world right now. His tracks are sublime here, and it adds a lot to the atmosphere. I see now why some of you say that Asobo should be a first party studio, and I agree with you guys so much!
RIP Arthur and Rodric :(
Dontnod isn't involved at all with Before the Storm. Even if I didn't like Life is Strange 2, it is much better than Life is Strange: Before the Storm.I haven't played LiS2 because while I loved LiS, I tried playing LiS Before the Storm and I just can't.
More teenage rebellion than I can digest (didn't particularly like Chloe in LiS already and here it's exacerbated. Max was way more likable) and I fear LiS2 will be more of that
Listening to Kinda Funny's 2020 predictions episode and Imran Kahn (formerly of Game Informer) has a great one... the Initiative's game is a Marvel game. His reasoning being Sony got Spider-Man, Nintendo got Marvel Ultimate Alliance... surely MS is trying to get in on something as well? Could be tied to any of their main characters... would be awesome. Wonder what the chances are.
That's good to know, might give it a try since it's on Game Pass thenDontnod isn't involved at all with Before the Storm. Even if I didn't like Life is Strange 2, it is much better than Life is Strange: Before the Storm.
But the load timesNow it's "CPU, GPU, RAM don't mean shit compared to SSD speeds!"
Honestly one of the most underrated of this generation. Sunset Overdrive is up there on that top 10 list too.Quantum Break had some absolutely nutty effects stuff going on as well as the lighting, with the time anomalies and shifts. It also had fantastic character models and facial animation/capture.
Hugely underrated game.
If only Sunset Overdrive could've been X enhanced.Honestly one of the most underrated of this generation. Sunset Overdrive is up there on that top 10 list too.
Also initially I thought the discussion the last 2 pages was pure sarcasm. Guess not.
It wouldn't be the best choice business wise but if they picked up Dr. Strange I could die a happy man. I'd love for them to pick up a Marvel property but I don't see it happening. That's mostly to keep my optimism in check though.Listening to Kinda Funny's 2020 predictions episode and Imran Kahn (formerly of Game Informer) has a great one... the Initiative's game is a Marvel game. His reasoning being Sony got Spider-Man, Nintendo got Marvel Ultimate Alliance... surely MS is trying to get in on something as well? Could be tied to any of their main characters... would be awesome. Wonder what the chances are.
Weapon X on Xbox. Think of the marketing synergies.Listening to Kinda Funny's 2020 predictions episode and Imran Kahn (formerly of Game Informer) has a great one... the Initiative's game is a Marvel game. His reasoning being Sony got Spider-Man, Nintendo got Marvel Ultimate Alliance... surely MS is trying to get in on something as well? Could be tied to any of their main characters... would be awesome. Wonder what the chances are.
Lol, haven't seen your post before writing mine 🤣Listening to Kinda Funny's 2020 predictions episode and Imran Kahn (formerly of Game Informer) has a great one... the Initiative's game is a Marvel game. His reasoning being Sony got Spider-Man, Nintendo got Marvel Ultimate Alliance... surely MS is trying to get in on something as well? Could be tied to any of their main characters... would be awesome. Wonder what the chances are.
I hope it's a new IP. Don't put such an ambitious sound studio on an old IP lolI'd prefer The Initiative's games to be a new IP or Perfect Dark.