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I already posted my thoughts on that in the thread it was posted in - comparing S to X in the same way of Lockhart to Anaconda is pointless. From a technical standpoint: S and X do not share the same memory architecture at all which can obviously cause potential issues when developing for both platforms. This is not going to be the case for Lockhart and Anaconda which will have been developed ground up in tandem to ensure easy scalability between the two without compromise. Not to mention the example give of "The Outer Worlds" X version being inferior to Pro is nonsense - it soon had a patch released after launch that fixed the lowered foliage setting. It was a simple setting change no different to the plethora of settings that can be changed on the PC version, not a technical limitation or issue.
From a commercial standpoint, we are no longer in 2006. So it seems baffling to be using PS3 launch as a reference point. Some people will just want a "Game Pass box", and they'll go for a cheaper option. The S and SAD just sold gangbusters over Black Friday, not the X. Last year it was base PS4 doing the business with Spider-Man bundles, not PS4 Pro.
Personally I'd be more interested in the thoughts of a AAA studio/game director/programmer, because Lockhart is certainly not going to stifle any ambitions of indie devs - where they are currently aiming for Switch as the baseline anyway.
Also, games like DOOM, Witcher 3 etc - were these held back because of Switch? Of course not, they are playable on Switch because they have been scaled down to play on Switch. And the same will be the case of Lockhart if it comes to fruition. Just like we're seeing many games target Pro/X these days, with lower quality textures, settings, framerates and resolutions on PS4 base and S.
We even have a prime example that all this hold back theory is bullshit with the latest DF video showing Alien Isolation looking better on the switch than the Ps4 and it is not even close imo.
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Just asking because that's the question a regular consumer is going to make too. When a company starts saying "b-but the CPU is more powerful and it has an SSD" but denies to say "it's more powerful" it starts sounding like a PR spin and does not inspire truth (we'll see how they handle that, of course)
I know it is not good to generalize like that, but the question should be simple to answer for Microsoft (not saying that you have to or giving you any responsibilities on this, just my opinion). Is it more powerful or not? YES or NO. And that's it.
More powerful meaning it could run the exact same game with better resolution, better FPS or better graphics (SDD stuff aside, which will obviously make a difference).
This. Assuming Anaconda is roughly the same power and price of PS5 (let's say $500), I could see MS pricing Lockhart in the 299-349 range.
Black Friday proved that all digital is more than OK with consumers if you are priced well below the competition. MS will get the benefit of all digital Sale and subscription revenue.
Misconception? About Xbox?? On Resetera?!?
Excellent post, Squirrell. I've been a big fan of this 2 Sku approach since it was rumored last year, happy to see that it's still on the table. It makes so much sense for MS and aligns with their recent out of the box, more options for the consumer approach
Well afaik they are in same discord group lol, and i think "old but not that old" is the main part for the post.
Btw guess that's why they both leaked about Obsidian's new game early.
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If MS does do the two SKU strategy I think it would be better to launch with Anaconda first, maybe in Oct or Sep as the core console launch, then launch Lockhart early Nov in time for the Christmas shopping season.
It's one dev. First FIVE paragraphs he talks about sales, business models and marketing. Then he finally says something about dev, but barely saying anything substantial like CPU, GPU, and SDD possible differences between two models. I don't say his opinion is less valid because of that, but we need to hear others, who will actually contribute to the "worries" (if there are any). And, when Lockart was first time mentioned months ago there wasn't any backlash from devs (or I missed them?).
Two reasons:
1. This will show core gamers that the higher-spec machine will be the focus, and core gamers are more important for the first year or so of a console launch.
2. When devs see that Anaconda is the more popular SKU it will get them in the habit of porting down instead of up.
I'm just not convinced that a couple months will drive the point you're thinking of. Even the Xbox One + Kinect bundle was sold out during it's first holiday. Better to release them both at the same time and make the marketing strategy as clear as possible around that.
That's definitely the assumed move, but if they have a console that is on par with PS5, then they won't be taking a hit on the Anaconda, imo. PS5 and Anaconda being comparable machines, to me, says neither took a hit on that console. Sony might not even be able to considering they rely on that revenue piece a bit more than MS? MS, maybe, would want to get the entry level Lockhart down to the magic $300 at launch and take a hit on it while supplementing that somewhat with high-end users of Anaconda and digital sales from Lockhart being digital-only.
Iirc the launch sales have even been better for Xbox one than for Xbox 360's.
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Maybe it will work maybe it won't but the entire point of Lockhart is to remove the "ALWAYS PREMIUM" buy in perception that a new console cycle brings. Offering a good cheaper option from the start of the gen might actually allow people to jump into next-gen from the start rather than waiting 4 years for that $200+ price cut down the line if Lockhart is priced well enough.
Control coming to Game Pass?
Jump to 44'02", words from Spencer itself.
"I thought Control was really good, it didn't reach enough people, so I'm glad to see it's coming in to Game Pass so hopefully more people will play it."
Jump to 44'02", words from Spencer itself.
"I thought Control was really good, it didn't reach enough people, so I'm glad to see it's coming in to Game Pass so hopefully more people will play it."
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My point was not about sales, it was about messaging. I expect the Lockhart to sell as much, if not more than Anaconda at launch.
Yeah I know my point was that even with the bad messaging at launch and at reveal of the Xbox one the sales went crazy So this time while focusing on gaming again they should easily be more successful with Scarlett no matter if 2 Sku's or only 1 SkU.
I am lazy at writing sorry should have been more clear before.
Before I watched it I was like "Yeah sure...move on" But when watching and especially hearing it I was like "Was he supposed to say this ?"
I have a feeling he did know it(obviously) but wasn't acutally "allowed" to say it ? He was kind of hesitant after he recognized half through the line that he is about to say something not ready for public.
Probably, they must be very strict in about what they can say in public.
But I hope it turns out to be true soon, it's a superb action game with a deep narrative and have one of the most fascinating moments in gaming in 2019.
Hope it comes to PC GP as well. I bought it on XBO at launch, completed it, loved it, but have since built a new PC and would like to check out the ray tracing implementation in the PC version.
If they don't release at same time I hope that Anaconda comes first, because I want the most powerful one but if Lockhart releases first I think I will be tempted to buy it as soon as possible.
Either way I'm sure that that will not happen.
Either way I'm sure that that will not happen.
i highly recommend sayonara wild hearts, look into it. very short game, won't take much of your time.
when Someone says why should Lockhart not launch at the same time as andaconda I think it's pretty simple.
The console will more or less sell out for the first six months. Everyone they put on shelf's will be raced to by enthusiasts to be taken off that shelf. It's also better to sel to an enthusiast than a casual because they spend more money. Selling and making the more expensive one only will also result in more revenue.
That's the main reason why Lockhart shouldn't launch till at least February 2021.
The console will more or less sell out for the first six months. Everyone they put on shelf's will be raced to by enthusiasts to be taken off that shelf. It's also better to sel to an enthusiast than a casual because they spend more money. Selling and making the more expensive one only will also result in more revenue.
That's the main reason why Lockhart shouldn't launch till at least February 2021.
You can not introduce a weaker console later into a cycle. That won't work from a software delivery standpoint, because you can't force devs to update (down-scale) the already released games to work on Lockhart. Either you launch with it - or you won't do it at all.
You may want to post this in the next gen thread. Because "lot of concerns" there ;)
Do you want him to trigger a riot ? It is best for Klob to not post it in there. Haha
I literally spat my coffee out. This is Brilliant!
Out of nowhere, amazing. I wonder if the textures will hold up.
Klobrille my good man, this post absolutely nailed the point home. I for one am firmly for the 2 SKU strategy. It makes so much sense, in fact I can see them adopting the Lockhart chipset and scaling for next gen in their cloud DCs.
Honestly, a 4.5tf Navi based GPU would be able to do way more than just 1080p 60. You'd be able to get to 1440p. The 5700xt has 7.95 teraflops and can hit 4k 60 in games like Forza and destiny. Console GPUs generally can get better results than your basic consumer end GPU's. Then when you take into account upscaling you could see some pretty decent results even at 4k with the lesser system.
Just because it isn't on the market doesn't mean games won't support it. There is also a likeliness that lockhart will be what is sitting in xCloud.
It really doesn't make sense to complicate your supply chain during the release season when your high end model will fly off shelves.
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