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Xbox Game Studios |OT8| Ori and the Speed of the SSDs
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Actually, re-reading it they're talking about the PC release, so it's not pointless for that market. As things stand, NVidia are the only ones doing hardware RT in the PC space, so when AMD's RDNA2 cards come out, the PC release will have to cover both. But then, I suppose everything will be going through DX anyway, so...
For console though, it's not relevant.
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Reach and ODST are the best games Bungie has ever made. I guess when your freedom's on the line, you tend to whole-ass things? Either way, a new ODST game would be very welcome, though I'm partial to a Spartan-IV-focused game where you can explore the Infinity on your downtime and listen to fellow Spartans bicker about the accuracy of the Lockout remake in the War Games Simulator:
Spartan 1: "What's the point of having the jumps to BR3 when we can just clamber up there?"
Spartan 2: "It's not Lockout without those jumps! What if we want to do battle on classic settings?"
Spartan 1: "There's no real-world situation where we wouldn't just climb it and end up there anyway, BRAD. This is training for actual combat."
Spartan 2: "GAMES. GAMES. WAR GAMES. It's a game, you tryhard!"
Spartan 1: "1v1 me. Octagon. Snipers only."
Spartan 3: "Why am I the only one who makes fresh coffee around here? It's not that hard, people!"
I want THAT game.
Ok, now I want that game, too.
In another timeline, Halo 4 was followed up by an ODST-alike that introduced Osiris, and Halo 5 was an all-Chief (+Blue Team) game.
If they make a halo game I want the title to be this:
Mona Lisa
A Halo Universe Story
Since the E3 2019 dev blog said that E3 2020 will be " a big moment for Halo Infinite", I'd consider that to be the next moment that we'll be seeing Halo Infinite in action with a steady push of info drops up to launch.
Damn, seems like we won't get much until then.
I really hope they include a F2P BR mode. I know a lot of people don't want that as BR is quite "Trendy" but it would be a great way to get more eyes on the game. Halo is perfect to for BR imo.
343 Halo has followed enough trends. Just give me a great Halo game.
DirectStorage – DirectStorage is an all new I/O system designed specifically for gaming to unleash the full performance of the SSD and hardware decompression. It is one of the components that comprise the Xbox Velocity Architecture. Modern games perform asset streaming in the background to continuously load the next parts of the world while you play, and DirectStorage can reduce the CPU overhead for these I/O operations from multiple cores to taking just a small fraction of a single core; thereby freeing considerable CPU power for the game to spend on areas like better physics or more NPCs in a scene. This newest member of the DirectX family is being introduced with Xbox Series X and we plan to bring it to Windows as well.
From XSX deep dive :
DirectX - DirectStorage - a necessary upgrade bearing in mind that existing file I/O protocols are knocking on for 30 years old, and in their current form would require two Zen CPU cores simply to cover the overhead, which DirectStorage reduces to just one tenth of single core.
"It's less latent and it saves a ton of CPU. With the best competitive solution, we found doing decompression software to match the SSD rate would have consumed three Zen 2 CPU cores. When you add in the IO CPU overhead, that's another two cores. So the resulting workload would have completely consumed five Zen 2 CPU cores when now it only takes a tenth of a CPU core. So in other words, to equal the performance of a Series X at its full IO rate, you would need to build a PC with 13 Zen 2 cores. That's seven cores dedicated for the game: one for Windows and shell and five for the IO and decompression overhead."
i don't think sony has an equivalent? the CPU will not be overloaded while the PS5 DMA controller will work alongside the CPU
From PS5 deep dive :
A dedicated DMA controller (equivalent to one or two Zen 2 cores in performance terms) directs data to where it needs to be, while two dedicated, custom processors handle I/O and memory mapping. On top of that, coherency engines operate as housekeepers of sorts.
From XSX deep dive :
DirectX - DirectStorage - a necessary upgrade bearing in mind that existing file I/O protocols are knocking on for 30 years old, and in their current form would require two Zen CPU cores simply to cover the overhead, which DirectStorage reduces to just one tenth of single core.
"It's less latent and it saves a ton of CPU. With the best competitive solution, we found doing decompression software to match the SSD rate would have consumed three Zen 2 CPU cores. When you add in the IO CPU overhead, that's another two cores. So the resulting workload would have completely consumed five Zen 2 CPU cores when now it only takes a tenth of a CPU core. So in other words, to equal the performance of a Series X at its full IO rate, you would need to build a PC with 13 Zen 2 cores. That's seven cores dedicated for the game: one for Windows and shell and five for the IO and decompression overhead."
i don't think sony has an equivalent? the CPU will not be overloaded while the PS5 DMA controller will work alongside the CPU
From PS5 deep dive :
A dedicated DMA controller (equivalent to one or two Zen 2 cores in performance terms) directs data to where it needs to be, while two dedicated, custom processors handle I/O and memory mapping. On top of that, coherency engines operate as housekeepers of sorts.
It depend if DMA controller work without CPU or with CPU.
If DMA controller work with CPU this is big advantage for DirectStorage.
You have a One X so it will use that res and downscale it 1440p.
One X support 1440p.
I thought so but I also thought I remembered people having some weird issues with that. Thanks lol
Yeah, just wanted to be sure if they talked about it officially. It does seem a feature that will make its way to XSX but they did present it as one of the key features when they officially unveiled the X1X at E3 2017.
People talk about how Halo shouldn't do BR because they should stop chasing trends, but a Halo BR is the only trend that I think the fanbase has ever actually requested. Like, I don't know who ever asked for custom loadouts, perks, ADS, and a MOBA mode.
Halo's vehicle sandbox already lends itself to the BR formula, to be honest. I'd love a standalone F2P Halo BR that plays in the Infinite engine.
Halo's vehicle sandbox already lends itself to the BR formula, to be honest. I'd love a standalone F2P Halo BR that plays in the Infinite engine.
From Chris Lee : This same attention to our design for the Chief is true of everything in Halo Infinite.
I can't wait to see what technologies they put in an Halo infinite, I'm sure Halo infinite will benefit from a new generation of Physics but also from artificial intelligence, and some DirectML sauce.
The narrative experience director of Halo Infinite said that Slipspace engine would display an incredible number of NPCs on the screen.
I'm sure DF will be happy to dissect the Slipspace Engine.
Look at this detail :
And the engine since time is still improving.
I can't wait to see what technologies they put in an Halo infinite, I'm sure Halo infinite will benefit from a new generation of Physics but also from artificial intelligence, and some DirectML sauce.
The narrative experience director of Halo Infinite said that Slipspace engine would display an incredible number of NPCs on the screen.
I'm sure DF will be happy to dissect the Slipspace Engine.
Look at this detail :
And the engine since time is still improving.
Completely agree.
Chasing trends is not always a bad idea, if it is done right with a strong IP to bring in those initial numbers, its great especially for a game like Halo which is tailormade for a BR game.
343i have not really had the foot on the pedal especially managing the IP, I will be criticized for this in this thread, but they should have focused on building a kick-ass app like COD ( which has 75 Million players on Android & iOS) and building a standalone F2P BR.
Their main team can go and do their thing but they should have pitched it to Phil and management. They are spending all this money on Halo Outpost Discovery which reaches a tiny amount of people compared to the ideas proposed above.
Although, I completly agree with the direction their main team is taking with resurrecting MCC and taking time after Halo 5 to step back and build a monumental game. Also their Showtime series seem to be finally on track.
A Halo BR where players are ODST's will be what genuinely gets me back into BR since peak PUBG.
That being said I'd be completely happy with just having a new Halo sp and mp to play.
That being said I'd be completely happy with just having a new Halo sp and mp to play.
From Chris Lee : This same attention to our design for the Chief is true of everything in Halo Infinite.
I can't wait to see what technologies they put in an Halo infinite, I'm sure Halo infinite will benefit from a new generation of Physics but also from artificial intelligence, and some DirectML sauce.
The narrative experience director of Halo Infinite said that Slipspace engine would display an incredible number of NPCs on the screen.
I'm sure DF will be happy to dissect the Slipspace Engine.
Look at this detail :
And the engine since time is still improving.
It's so damn beautiful. 😍
I'm just hoping it's mind blowing gorgeous when it releases with a great single player campaign.
Why do people keep saying f2p when / if it ever happened, it would be on gamepass. F2p would only means they'd add more py restrictions
Give this mans mod authority, he has good taste
F2P BR is how you get the biggest player base if you're not already the number one shooter on the market.
Game Pass doesn't mean a lot for the large amounts of Steam only players. If it was in the Infinite Style, it could also act as a gateway into vanilla Halo Infinite. Honestly it'd just be better for the Halo brand awareness.
No offence but after some people's reaction to the Gears 5 OT, I'll refrain myself from poking some sort of hornet's nest on the site. Especially with how DmC vs DMC threads are going on in here. Going for a subtle Kung Fu Chaos reference sounded pretty much cool on paper so 🤷♂️
I did like the level design in DmC more than in DMC5 though and it's cool to see that at least one of the two got Vergil DLC...
From Chris Lee : This same attention to our design for the Chief is true of everything in Halo Infinite.
I can't wait to see what technologies they put in an Halo infinite, I'm sure Halo infinite will benefit from a new generation of Physics but also from artificial intelligence, and some DirectML sauce.
The narrative experience director of Halo Infinite said that Slipspace engine would display an incredible number of NPCs on the screen.
I'm sure DF will be happy to dissect the Slipspace Engine.
Look at this detail :
And the engine since time is still improving.
The Halo Infinite gameplay reveal is going to be so god damn epic. I can't wait to see what 343i has been working on for 5 years.
Give me a trailer of Chief slowly standing up, showing the way the games have looked since 2001, progressing from game to game with Cortana/Halsey talking about John then ending with him going into a fight in Infinite showing off the power of the Series X.
And supplement that with a nice gameplay trailer showing the scale of the game. The amount of enemies and friendlies in a firefight, vehicles, Guardians, everything.
Ah ok. That's great! I'm hoping for an RPG in the vein of Mass Effect. Rag tag squad where you play a Spartan III and ONI has you choose your squad made up of a Spartan II, couple of Spartan IVs, an ODST, UNSC scientist etc. Would love to see a game tackle commentary regarding the different Spartans and I think a Mass Effect style game could achieve that, where you have the personalities and perspectives clash, not dissimilar to the Avengers scene on bird the helicarrier.
"Unknown project" is included in the original post, top of this thread.
Amen!
Crazy how many franchises we all think have potential to be huge. Shows how much Xbox has improved with its software potential already.
AoE4 has the biggest potential after Halo Infinite to blow up on Twitch/Mixer of all the XGS games.
MSFT promised a beta for all Halo games after MCC. Halo 5 had a beta 11 months before release. I do wonder what's going on with Infinite. Also unless its a premier 100% ready product, I would rather them delay the game. 343 is under pressure to release a flawless, complete game, No but's or missing content.
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