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Xbox is the only weak point for Microsoft's strong quarter
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There's a thread on their earnings. I don't think anyone is surprised that Xbox still has a ways to go. Microsoft was considering getting out of gaming for a reason. This coming generation is when they will prove that it's right for them to be invested in gaming.
I feel like they've nearly moved on from the current hardware. It feels like it's full steam ahead with services and the focus is going to be on the new console.
Next gen or not they've switched to the game pass model. Maybe it's losing them money currently with the huge discounts constantly it's on.
Not surprising all the studios they bought need to be delivering exclusives in the next few years. Obviously new hardware.
Gamepass should be better.
Gamepass should be better.
They already view consoles as just another entry into their ecosystem. If streaming becomes as viable as it's for tv shows and movies, MS would drop their consoles in a heartbeat.
Did they do anything in 2019? Aside from Ultimate Gamepass, Xbox had a pretty lackluster year as they get ready for Series X. Most of 2020 will be the same.
Microsofts strategy does not rely on console sales. It's how many gamepass subs they can get and that includes PC.
Lol. We are essentially commenting on Yahoo's sensationalist title. That is what this thread is about.
I know that's why I said console market not gaming altogether. Gamepass is their bread and butter now and if consoles don't siginificantly increase the amount of subscriptions they get, I wouldn't be suprised if they just dropped out.
I keep seeing posts like this, and have to question: what does this even mean? Ecosystem?
If there was no console, "Xbox" would be just another PC game launcher. I already have 10 of those damn things installed on my PC. Xbox is the worst one of them because it's the only one that locks game folders away from me, preventing all forms of modding. I am not tied to any "ecosystems" here, I just launch whatever I need to play the game I want to play. I'll start Origin for Apex Legends and Uplay for Watch Dogs Legion when that game is out (thanks to 1 month of Uplay+).
If there's an "ecosystem" that I would actually be tied to, that would be Steam. I have spent so much money on so many games for Steam that I can never delete it. But the Xbox app? Just cancel subscription and delete, nothing is lost. That's exactly what I will do in May 2022 when my Gold-converted GP ends because I hate the Xbox app (Microsoft Store) so much.
Well yeah, Origin is EA's ecosystem (or was because they are also getting back into Steam) they just want to hook you into their platform or launcher and start buying stuff from them.
If you play Apex and after a while see a deal on a game you might like on Origin then they have you in their ecosystem.
I figured this would result in a productive discussion. The Xbox Series X won't fail. Not even close.
The Xbox Division has always been the black sheep in Microsoft's portfolio for most investors.
The ROI isn't comparable with Office/365 and Azure, but the bigger problem is that hardware heavy markets like the console market always binds a lot of capital.
That's not a big deal for hardware companys, but Microsoft is a software company and therefore investors want to see that money spend somewhere else with higher ROIs.
Anyway, Microsoft is all in on Gamepass for their Xbox Division.
And at that point it doesn't even matter if it is a success or a failure, because in both cases they will put less and less emphasis on classic console buisness.
The ROI isn't comparable with Office/365 and Azure, but the bigger problem is that hardware heavy markets like the console market always binds a lot of capital.
That's not a big deal for hardware companys, but Microsoft is a software company and therefore investors want to see that money spend somewhere else with higher ROIs.
Anyway, Microsoft is all in on Gamepass for their Xbox Division.
And at that point it doesn't even matter if it is a success or a failure, because in both cases they will put less and less emphasis on classic console buisness.
Are people here just trolling? Do people think MS was the only gaming console company that went down last quarter vs the previous fiscal year?
Gamepass. Think of it like how Netflix is right now. You can stream any game you want not just as an app on pc, but on everything from phones to tablets to smart tv. Basically you will be able to play your games on whatever device you have instead of being tied to a console or PC. If MS can reach that point with quality good enough for people, they will have a wide reach much bigger than the current console userbase.
Is stating facts called sensationalism now? I highly doubt this Yahoo financial article has any 'sensational' agenda, they are reporting on Microsoft's finances. The article points out all the talking points that are being mentioned in this thread, "it's a transitional year," etc., so I fail to see the problem.
How can you be so sure when the xbox one was such a failure and gamepass and xcloud don't improve the case for getting one. I wouldn't put it past microsoft to just say fuck it. Console sales alone aren't that important anymore.
Meh. I can see where the "MS will quit" discussions are coming from, but it always seems highly speculative to me.
It sometimes read like "Apple will stop doing Macs because they don't sell as much as PCs".
I mean it's not physically impossible, but it does seem unlikely.
It's good to keep in mind it's only in our little console war space that "Xbox is doomed". For most people it's just another console.
Whatev.
It sometimes read like "Apple will stop doing Macs because they don't sell as much as PCs".
I mean it's not physically impossible, but it does seem unlikely.
It's good to keep in mind it's only in our little console war space that "Xbox is doomed". For most people it's just another console.
Whatev.
That's more to do with the size of MS megacorp than Xbox division itself.
The information reported therein has an entire thread on the front page of this forum. The only new info is the article title. Which will definitely get some clicks into this thread and some concerned replies from people with certain types of avatars or a specific preferred console lean. Please continue to discuss the numbers in the original thread or this duplicate thread with the concerned article title. It is your world.
Can't wish this one into existence, sorry pal. Xbox One underdelivered but it's probably gonna be above 60m in the end. That's far from a failure. Series X should do Wii U numbers for Microsoft to consider quitting, and that's clearly not happening.
It's obvious why the X1 failed and they aren't doing the same mistakes with their new console so far.
I think the logic behind his thinking makes sense. Sometimes people act like the X1 did like WiiU numbers.
Without the actual console the ecosystem is signicantly weaker because they lose all money they used to get for third party games sold. No one on PC is buying third party games on the Microsoft store. No more Xbox Live money either.
I don't think Xbox1 is That big a failure. If Series X does about as well as Xbox1 I think they will be okay.
The only major concern is if Series X can do as well as Xbox1. since Xbox1 had early exclusives that Series X looks like it wont.
I was waiting for this lol, I knew i wasn't the only one that peeped that.
Uhh, no. One article is solely about Microsoft's gaming revenue. This article is about how that gaming revenue reflects on Microsoft revenue as a whole. So right away in your "nothing to see here" rant you expose yourself for not actually reading anything beyond the so-called "click bait" title, which by the way comes from Yahoo finance, who you accuse of "sensationalism," even though the final line of the article is "We've said it before: at this point Microsoft's business seems unstoppable." Which I suppose is sensationalism as well, is it not?
Console Sales aren't important anymore, the revenue will come from software sales and streaming. Also the Xbox One wasnt a failure.
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