no way any new XGS or bethesda game doesn't launch on game pass
I suggest you re-read the post you responded to so we’re on the same page.
‘the Outer Worlds 2’ is not the name of a development team.
I feel like he meant past games, that might be tied to some other business, may not get into Gamepass immediately, not future games. That's how I read it, of course, maybe I'm wrong.
I mean, it’s all relative honestly. MS is trying to break out of the traditional console space and expand beyond that with xCloud and Gamepass PC. It’s entirely possible that Gamepass gets enough subscribers because of the cloud functionality that it makes the PS5 (more realistically, PS6) user base mostly irrelevant to them.
Gamepass subs gained are absolutely more worthwhile than people buying their game on a competing platform though. If a hypothetical multiplatform TES 6 sells 10 million units on PS5 at $70, that’s $490 million in revenue at most, and while that seems like a lot, it’s also just one month of 49 million GP subs paying $10 a month.
They’re only at 18 million or so subs now, but at their current rate of growth, they could potentially get to 50 million by mid 2023, which is a lot of monthly revenue and more worthwhile than selling on a platform that can reduce growth
Doesn't make it legally binding. It's really up to Phil / Ms on how they want to handle this.
No they definitely are. It's the only reason they were bought.
Only exceptions might be Ghostwire and Deathloop depending on the exclusivity deal with Sony.
No other company would have this said about them after acquiring a developer or studio. It would be assumed and expected that the games would be exclusive.
But for Microsoft, this would be a PR nightmare?
My bad, I should have said “some” do. Hopefully, they expand on and improve it.
This is also true if in that sense Microsoft would sell you an product instead of a service. If PlayStation gets xCloud like service (it won’t) then yeah I think it will reach PlayStation..
I don’t really have an agenda here since I own all the consoles.. I must say I really like the speculation and the different views from people because I always liked how the game industry presented and progressed itself..
Zenimax Online Studios is developping a game that seems to have multiplayer and maybe open-world by the way.
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From the creators of The majority of games will be Backwards compatibility = Only 100 games will BC and the studio that brought you 4K and 60FPS = 4K or 60FPS...
Some = All or nothing!
Some = All or nothing!
It's a little different in this case, kind of. Has there been an example in the past of a platform holder straight up buying a big publisher? Developers, sure, but buying a publisher is quite a bit different. And in this age where every word is picked apart, I don't blame them one bit for being vague.
Glad to help. Hope you get it on time. I have been having a blast playing older Gamepass games but time is the issue; also have a ps5 and a switch and pc so ya... i am not waiting for new releases with bated breath. lets just say thatOMG! THANK YOU SO SO MUCH!
I’m in Toronto, and I’ve been checking Best Buy Canada every day to see if they’re in stock. I just placed my order with Wal-Mart, scheduled to be delivered on March 24! What a great way to celebrate.
Again, thank you soooooo much, you made my day
The way I'm reading this is that they have multiple commitments they have to fulfil like Deathloop and Ghostwire Tokyo, as well as ongoing service based games like ESO and FO76.
I suspect they are still weighing up franchise titles like ES6. Either that or already have a plan ready for Summer announcements.
Whatever the case, Game Pass is going to be something truly special going forward.
"The Outer Worlds 2" is the example of a potential new game made by a brand new acquired development studio, Obsidian.
Hint hint, they wouldn't be asking Matt Booty about it if it was a random game.
It's in the first paragraph of the article you just told me to read.
Because we're still months away from the first new game to come. The Game Pass stuff on Thursday is great but things won't seem any different until Starfield is shown with platforms announced.
Yeah it's amazing, exactly nothing changed! Same games you would've gotten anyway, except now you get to pay for them in a different way
No chance, at least I hope not, now that the Bethesda Saga is kinda over I want them to start up the Sega Saga next.
That or EA/Ubisoft will get bought by Microsoft in the next year or two at least, guaranteed.
Yeah I don't have an agenda either. It's interesting to speculate because MS's strategy isn't something we've seen before. Releasing dual day and date on PC... releasing on Steam even.. buying a big game and keeping it multiplat (Mojang.), etc.
They seem to be wanting to let their studios make some decisions too, and that might include wanting to be multiplat.
I mean a publisher is just a collection of game studios with a marketing/printing department when you get down to it.
If Microsoft just bought Bethesda Gameworks, or just bought Id/Machine/Arkane would that change things?
In all honestly, probably not. But that's the thing, it's just never really happened before. This is the first of its kind. So we'll just have to wait and see what goes on in the future.
Regardless, I couldn't give less of a damn what they release the games on. If they want to keep them on Xbox / PC, I'll play them on Xbox / PC.
I think Transistor said it best:
“They probably don't know yet, in all honesty, so vague messaging is best. Let's say they do restrict it to Xbox and PC but they don't get the sales they want, they might open it up more in the future.
Just like Cerny/Ryan/Sony with their "vast majority" backwards compatibility comments, it's much better for PR to be a little vague and not concrete, in case things change in the future.”
People said this before Zenimax too and nobody as Microsoft of Xbox has ever indicated this is the case. Satya Nadella and others have been quite clear that Microsoft will continue looking for acquisitions.
When providing a service as a product, you are constantly looking to bolster it. Pretty standard stuff.
Na, there will likely be more. If it's this year is the question but there is definitely going to be another major acquisition.
I don’t care for vague being a deliberate strategy
“Xbox series x is flying off shelves. Let’s not commit to saying what is or isn’t exclusive and start dropping trailers of Bethesda games with Xbox exclusive at the end. That way we can keep people talking about Xbox and what we are going to do”
their message so far has been that it’s more important to state everything on gamepass instead of talking about exclusives
to completely ignore talking about what is or isn’t exclusive and just focus on gamepass getting everything day 1
“Xbox series x is flying off shelves. Let’s not commit to saying what is or isn’t exclusive and start dropping trailers of Bethesda games with Xbox exclusive at the end. That way we can keep people talking about Xbox and what we are going to do”
their message so far has been that it’s more important to state everything on gamepass instead of talking about exclusives
to completely ignore talking about what is or isn’t exclusive and just focus on gamepass getting everything day 1
Do we know if there will be a virtual Quakecon this year and in the coming years if there will be Quakecon?
That quote doesn't sound like they're locking everything down, but it seems like they're leaving it somewhat vague in case they feel like they need an exclusive to gain a quick competitive boost at any time in the future.
Market consolidation is going to leave the industry in a weird, not necessarily good place.
Market consolidation is going to leave the industry in a weird, not necessarily good place.
They aren't getting 49 million Gamepass subs at $10 off the back of this too many people know how to get it for either $1 or will buy the game on Steam. If you go with Pete Hines and not every Bethesda game being Gamepass day 1 too - Microsoft know 40m in sales of TES & Fallout over Xbox & Playstation is worth way more than some Gamepass subs.
this logic applies to every game Microsoft makes lmao. What competition does for a horizon have on PlayStation for example? Nothing. They’d sell millions on playstation so why isn’t for a there? Hellblade fits right into the games that Sony folks like. Why isn’t that there? Lmao
And now we all suffer with trolling and insincere discussion about exclusivity until then
True lol. People keep talking about PlayStation, but Switch is more likely to get Bethesda ports than PlayStation at this point.
I wouldn't call it a big publisher, but Sony bought Psygnosis in the 90s. Closest one I can think of.
Rare dabbled with publishing in their pre-Nintendo era, but by the time Microsoft bought them they had moved on from publishing.
Fair enough. I also think that this may be information they're simply not ready to disclose until the actual official announcements/trailers of certain games. Being vague has its benefits there too and continues to drum up mindshare and attention.
I thought the same when Matt Booty said they are in execute mode and not acquire mode last year. And then Bethesda deal was announced.
Bingo.
That's a good point, too. People are acting like there are only two players in this game: Xbox and PlayStation, when in reality, there are more than that.
Because they were gonna get these games on their system anyway.