But its just business when sony trys to choke ms out with all there timed exclusives.
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My prediction:
MS is going to make data driven decisions.. they will likely make a big game exclusive, and see if it significantly moves the GamePass needle. They may make another game timed exclusive, and measure that.. may make a game not exclusive at all, but "day one on GamePass" and see those results. This will likely also include extensive polling of the general public; how much have they heard about the games, would they be interested in them based on what they heard, would they want to play them on their cell phone or smart TV? Do exclusive games generate the same word of mouth as non-exclusives? Or do they not?
They aren't just focused on the profit from an individual game, they are focused on how much it grows their mindshare in gaming way beyond consoles. They won't be satisfied with just competing with Sony. It's what makes them unpredictable, and also what TBH puts their future in a bit of peril. Because if 10 years from now they are still just a competitor to Sony, or even if they've beat them in the home console game.. if they got there by spending 10s of billions of dollars, that is not what their CEO and CFO are spending this money for. They think they can get a piece of a much bigger pie via GamePass or cloud in general.
MS is going to make data driven decisions.. they will likely make a big game exclusive, and see if it significantly moves the GamePass needle. They may make another game timed exclusive, and measure that.. may make a game not exclusive at all, but "day one on GamePass" and see those results. This will likely also include extensive polling of the general public; how much have they heard about the games, would they be interested in them based on what they heard, would they want to play them on their cell phone or smart TV? Do exclusive games generate the same word of mouth as non-exclusives? Or do they not?
They aren't just focused on the profit from an individual game, they are focused on how much it grows their mindshare in gaming way beyond consoles. They won't be satisfied with just competing with Sony. It's what makes them unpredictable, and also what TBH puts their future in a bit of peril. Because if 10 years from now they are still just a competitor to Sony, or even if they've beat them in the home console game.. if they got there by spending 10s of billions of dollars, that is not what their CEO and CFO are spending this money for. They think they can get a piece of a much bigger pie via GamePass or cloud in general.
Elder Scrolls is probably in pre-production, and is likely several years away. So you have plenty of time (at the very least).
Starfield might be another story.
The point is some here want Microsoft to buy as many as they can and take away options for people because of bs. The Bethesda purchase made some similar sense even if I think it's a negative. Hoping they buy EA - Ubisoft and Sega doesn't make me happy to see people cheering that on.
I think that will be exclusive and I would be more surprised if those games are not exclusive.
Do Nintendo, PC and mobile gaming exist in your world like, at all? There's plenty of options to play on different platforms.
Also, Xbox gives you the option to play on Xbox, PC, mobile/streaming and soon on smart TVs. That's a pretty consumer friendly attitude compared to Nintendo and Sony for example.
Yup. Every new game from now on will be Xbox/PC/GP (unless its GaaS). The long gap between the announcements will limit the outrage, and eventually just be an expectation.
Bethesda are a pub, so MS are approaching this differently to their other aquisisions.
And the devs that'll leave if they can't work on Playstation ports
They can't create 8 new studios. They did that with The Initiative how many years ago and we are still how many years away from their first game (Perfect Dark)? The point of an acquisition is that they are already stood up
Who said timed exclusives are good? Timed exclusives suck no matter who does them. They provide no value to anyone except shareholders at the company who signed the deal.
Reacting to timed exclusives by buying half the industry is worse, though.
Uplay is likely coming to gamepass and EA play is already on there, so I don't know why anyone would be eager for EA or Ubisoft to be purchased. Aside from how wildly unrealistic it is to posit either of those two giants as potential purchases in even the distant future, the championing for publisher consolidation that's become far more rampant since the Bethesda announcement is such an odd form of fanboyism that I will never understand.
I feel like the "some" part of this is tied more to the "immediate" content releasing (IE, within the next 24 months). When looking at the content we either know or can safely assume is coming from the Zenimax teams the next 24 months, only some will be exclusive. Here goes: Ghostwire Tokyo (multiplatform), Deathloop (multiplatform), ESO expansions (multiplatform), Fallout 76 continued support and expansions (multiplatform), Doom Eternal Ancient gods part 2 and possible future expansions (multiplatform), Wolfenstein 3 (can go either way), Starfield (can go either way, leaning towards exclusive), Arkane Austin's next game (can go either way, leaning towards exclusive) and maybe even a game or two from Zenimax online, which could also go both ways, but if I had to guess will be multi-platform.
So basically, out of the 8/9 games/projects from the teams listed here guesstimated to come out in the next 24 months, most of them will be multi-platform and only some could be exclusive. And I feel that Wolfenstein will likely be multi-platform as well honestly.
Now, maybe it's just some copium here, but personally I hope the games are all/mostly multi-platform going forward but it seems that at least for the bigger games they'll be exclusive
So basically, out of the 8/9 games/projects from the teams listed here guesstimated to come out in the next 24 months, most of them will be multi-platform and only some could be exclusive. And I feel that Wolfenstein will likely be multi-platform as well honestly.
Now, maybe it's just some copium here, but personally I hope the games are all/mostly multi-platform going forward but it seems that at least for the bigger games they'll be exclusive
I officially have a monopoly on the terms "monopoly" and "anti-consumer". My monopoly will monopolize the monopolization of misused terms.
I feel you, I learned to live with the Bethesda grab, but wanting them to buy Ubisoft is for more console war chess pieces. If you can't come out with a steady stream of good games with 25 studios, then they have a serious problem.
Obsidian, Bethesda and inXile under the same roof.
I'm at once ecstatic about this, and also terrified at the idea of something major going wrong. Honestly, the stakes feel high for me.
Because organisations have to take these decisions collectively and the acquisition was just legally approved.
Its great for gamepass subscribers though. I'm topped up for 3 years, so this acquisition means I get to play many titles I otherwise wouldn't have bought.
Alright, guys time to let it go. It was funny but now your antagonizing
I hope they do, They haven't been able to consistently since the 360 generation. It will be interesting to see what happens next with the games released going forward.
How do you get more competitive? Easy answer, you still won't get an Xbox over a PS5 unless someone gives you one regardless if all these games will be exclusive to Xbox and PC. So obviously even ignoring this Zenimax/Bethesda deal it doesn't matter does it. Sony has enough incentive for you regardless, you just want more.
I would also like to see how you can prove this will choke out Sony who is already leading in sales 2-1? Seems to me this deal that was announced prior to the release of the new consoles didn't really change much. All you care about is the prosperity of Sony and that they are in a better situation than the others.
Does it look like Sony is going to have a bad year in 2021? How about 2022? No it does not. This whole the world is doomed theatrics you've got going on is really having no impact anymore because your negative outlook seems to relate to everything, not just this deal. I don't think this hobby serves you well at all.
Man, who the hell is making these graphics and how many do you have!?
" including some new titles in the future that will be exclusive to Xbox and PC players. "
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I think the concerns around monopoly will only be valid if Microsoft makes moves to buy several more large publishers, and even then it's tenuous. Industry consolidation isn't good but this isn't a good example of it.
I didn't game that generation (school/career) but everyone that talks about it waxes on about two giants going to head to head. Seems fun!
That's true, there's quite a lot far in development and existing contracts/products that will be continued to be supported on multiple platforms. Saying everything will be exclusive would be an even worse thing to say when it's just not true. Though they could have said most or going forward we will develop exclusive games without any "some", "most" or "all" to specify the amount.
But he specifically says "some new titles." Titles, not "content," meaning he's talking about sequels or new IP. It also makes zero sense to keep a live service game on a platform and stop delivering content. Timed exclusivity? Sure.
Same here. I didn't even get an Xbox One because I just wasn't interested in it at all. Everything I wanted to play was on the 3DS, the Switch or the PS4 - and this is in spite of the fact that I really enjoyed playing Gears of War, Left 4 Dead 2 and stuff like that on the 360.
It seems, though, that ever since Phil Spencer took over Microsoft has really been putting in the effort with Xbox and it's paying off big time. I chose to get a Series X over a PS5 at launch last year because of the backwards compatibility and Game Pass.
Microsoft turning around and saying they just bought Zenimax just made everything so much better, too. It really adds to the value of Game Pass, which I was already impressed by, and we haven't even hit the six months mark yet (which are usually the weakest months in a console's lifespan).
Do you really think it's good for the industry for Microsoft to keep buying publishers after this Bethesda deal, though? Like at which point does the overall health of the industry and of multiplatform games on all platforms outweigh the personal benefit you get from being subscribed to Game Pass?
THERE IT IS!!! And they even confirmed some games will be Xbox exclusive. This is HUGE! Good luck to Xbox, excited for this gen :)
Look man it's nothing personal, we meme shit here.
I know what's it like to be a victim of it, but you either leave or grin and bear it and move on.
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The only reason they were sold is because they wanted to be sold. Microsoft didn't ask them, they advertised.
As it stands, Microsoft is the best buyer there could have been. If Sony (who I have seen claims were bidding) had bought them those titles would have been far less likely to make it to PC, Switch. If you don't have an xbox machine, you could always stream them with a gamepass sub.
The worst of all worlds would have been amazon, Google, Facebook or apple buying them. Then those games would have been even less available.
Really, gamers should be breathing a sigh of relief that Microsoft, the solid gold heroes that they are, have saved the day, once again.
Na they just want to see Gamepass grow.
Sony will be fine and MS ain't trying to kill the Playstation. This wasn't no hostile takeover, they wanted to be bought. MS saw an opportunity and ran with it.
The exact same thing could happen with a different third party and it could be Sony who makes the acquisition.
Oh I can tell you the first order of business is to promote Todd Howard to oversee XGS, with Booty and Phil moving a tier up.
Which is a good thing.
