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Xbox One X Enhancements for RiME, Firewatch and Bulletstorm have been silently cancelled after advertising them for the last year

Railgun

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Thought this was pretty shitty all around, although RiME and Bulletstorm were removed from the One X coming soon list months ago Firewatch is the latest to be removed. These had been advertised as coming to the X since before the X even released. These were listed on the official Xbox One X Enhancements coming soon list on Xbox's and Major Nelson's websites.

Campo Santo (Firewatch) last talked about their X Enhancements in a blog post earlier this year, saying it would come after the Switch release. Then out of nowhere just after the Switch version released it's now no longer being advertised.

I understand there are financial and logistical issues in updating these games for the X, but if they're going to advertise these features for so long they should at least make an announcement detailing the cancellation. This just feels like trying to sweep it under the rug. Looking at Reddit it's not hard to see dissapointed and angry users who bought these games on sales in anticipation of the X Enhancemnts.
 
Detective Loki

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All three of those don't seem like they'd benefit much.

I mean RiME and Firewatch look good on the Pro but their art styles looked good at 1080p as well.
 
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Railgun

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Detective Loki said:
All three of those don't seem like they'd benefit much.

I mean RiME and Firewatch look good on the Pro but their art styles looked good at 1080p as well.
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Firewatch is 756p with bad framepacing and horrible draw distance on Xbox. It's a complete mess of a port that desperately needed more attention. They had stated that the optimisations they had developed for Switch would come to the base Xbox One as well but now who knows if that's happening. Not sure about RiME but I doubt it's 1080p there either.
 
Tappin Brews

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thats a bummer. now that i have a x that would give me a good reason to replay at least rime
 

see5harp

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I mean who dropped the ball? I feel like those are the people who should say shit. MS should certainly offer refunds to those who feel cheated.
 
WillyFive

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I play RiME at 4k on my PC even though it runs at like 10fps simply because it looks so stunning.
 
Garcia el Gringo

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I'm disappointed about both Firewatch and RiME; I was holding out on playing both for so long due to the announced X enhancements.
 
Terminus

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Bummer about Firewatch, I was really eager to double dip and play that again in HDR. I guess maybe they're too deep into development on Valley to spare the resources. Do Chris and Jake post here or did they only chime in from time to time at the old place?
 
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Railgun

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Terminus said:
Bummer about Firewatch, I was really eager to double dip and play that again in HDR. I guess maybe they're too deep into development on Valley to spare the resources. Do Chris and Jake post here or did they only chime in from time to time at the old place?
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They do on occasion but they haven't replied to any dm's. No one from Campo Santo has been replying to any of the numerous tweets they're getting about this either.

Honestly the lack of communication or apology on this is turning me off ever buying a Campo Santo game again.
 
antennastoheaven

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Railgun said:
They do on occasion but they haven't replied to any dm's. No one from Campo Santo has been replying to any of the numerous tweets they're getting about this either.

Honestly the lack of communication or apology on this is turning me off ever buying a Campo Santo game again.
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I mean, you can't, Campo Santo is no more.
They're all at Valve now. In the Valley of Gods is a 100% Valve game.

But yeah, it's bothersome.
 
Doskoi Panda

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This is the worst part about the mid gen refresh

Lots of games I'd love to play on 'The World's Most Powerful Console's except they look worse than they do on other platforms there...
 
antennastoheaven

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LewieP said:
Pretty sure you should be able to get refunds for these games.



Did they officially cancel console versions?
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In the Valley of Gods was never announced for consoles. It's Windows, MacOS and Linux (for now, though).

But the point I was trying to make is that Campo Santo won't make any new game. ItVoG is a Valve game.
 
Rocketz

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I bought Firewatch like a year ago on sale but haven't played it yet. Would have been nice to to have the patch now since I have and X and a 4K tv.
 
Nappuccino

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I'm guessing it's hard to work on improvements when your full time job belongs to a different company.

I do wish they'd comment on the matter, but I'm guessing that will come soon. Most of the Campo Santo crew have an open presence on Twitter.
 

see5harp

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Why wouldn't you wait until the patch released?
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Maybe they were on sale? I don't know. But if someone says a patch is incoming and then it's cancelled, obviously you should be able to refund. I don't get how this is so shocking. You can refund games on steam as long as you haven't played more than a certain amount. If you played hours then obviously you shouldn't be given the refund.
 
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see5harp said:
Maybe they were on sale? I don't know. But if someone says a patch is incoming and then it's cancelled, obviously you should be able to refund. I don't get how this is so shocking. You can refund games on steam as long as you haven't played more than a certain amount. If you played hours then obviously you shouldn't be given the refund.
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yhea... just stop, not making much sense.
 
starfox

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is in the current eula that they offer refunds to unplayed games weeks after the purchase been made? No? Then maybe you shouldn't had bought it on a "promise" of the developer.
 
pswii60

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I'm torn on this.

Obviously the X enhancements are out of Microsoft's hands for these third party titles. And rather than advertising them in the traditional sense, they're just providing a useful list showing which games are enhanced - something I wish Sony would do for Pro.

But on the other hand, the danger of a list like this is clearly that third parties can cancel their plans at any time.

Really, they just needed to add a disclaimer to the bottom of the list. Otherwise the alternative is no list, and I'd rather have the list.

However I agree that they should have kept the games on the list and put "cancelled" rather than deleting altogether.
 
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starfox said:
is in the current eula that they offer refunds to unplayed games weeks after the purchase been made? No? Then maybe you shouldn't had bought it on a "promise" of the developer.
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In Europe at least, customers who have purchased something are legally entitled to what is advertised, if that isn't delivered then you are entitled to a refund. It's common sense.
 
Sambodianninja

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I have not played either games, but it would have been awesome to see them both enhanced for the X, as I love the art style of these games. I guess I'll just stick to playing them as is. Bummer...
 
Tetrinski

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Railgun said:
Firewatch is 756p with bad framepacing and horrible draw distance on Xbox. It's a complete mess of a port that desperately needed more attention. They had stated that the optimisations they had developed for Switch would come to the base Xbox One as well but now who knows if that's happening. Not sure about RiME but I doubt it's 1080p there either.
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Played both on base Xbox One. Ryme runs and looks great, I'm sure the enhancement would've been nice but it's not a drama. Firewatch, on the other hand, runs terribly. The graphics look fine despite of resolution due to the art style, but the frame rate is atrocious. I'd assume that problem would be minimized by the X even without enhancement, but still.
 

see5harp

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starfox said:
is in the current eula that they offer refunds to unplayed games weeks after the purchase been made? No? Then maybe you shouldn't had bought it on a "promise" of the developer.
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I didn't buy any of these games. I'm saying it would be nice if MS offered refunds for what probably is a small percentage of people who bought in this window. I'm not arguing what is or isn't in the EULA.
 
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Railgun

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Still no word from anyone at Campo Santo. Looks like they're just ignoring it and hoping it blows over. I'm sorry but not even acknowledging this is not good enough.

starfox said:
is in the current eula that they offer refunds to unplayed games weeks after the purchase been made? No? Then maybe you shouldn't had bought it on a "promise" of the developer.
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Thats not how it works....
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Maybe not in the US, but elsewhere it's pretty normal to expect a refund on a product that advertises a feature and then doesn't deliver.
 
Fiery Phoenix

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ID@Xbox is hit and miss when it comes to X enhancements. Very few of those developers bother enhancing their games even if they are successful hits. I assume it's because the games are typically developed by all of 4 people who would rather be working on something new than touching old code.
 
ghibli99

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That's a bummer, but hey, things/plans change. Played all of these on other platforms, but would have been cool to revisit them on X w/ enhancements.
 
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