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Xbox's Shannon Loftis to IGN reviewer: "dont discourage people from playing our game"
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I feel like there's an implicit assumption with reviews that the reader has a brain. The reviewer is making a case, and saying not to buy the game may be the conclusion, but I don't think anyone expects you to fall in line with the reviewer 100% of the time. You're going to hear the thing out and consider it yourself.
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Is there not (or was) a review site that actually scores games as Buy/ Dont Buy?
Sure but the author can still state it explicitly if he wishes to do so. There is nothing inherently wrong with it.
You can rate with stars, but can't rate with a written text review yet I suppose.
how so? ryan and xbox is tantamount to gameovergreggy and playstation
There's a big difference between not liking it, and calling someone "paid so called journalist" and outright discrediting the review.
Lol, case in point. I mean I wouldn't respond to these people one way or another but yeah, that's...that's something lol.We do know the context.
There's a fine line between the average person not liking your review vs someone at a high position of a company calling someone out specifically, especially when these people know they have zealots following them on twitter
ACG does and it's perfectly reasonable. It's just a Youtube Channel though.
https://www.youtube.com/user/AngryCentaurGaming
Of course. And most people can separate their opinions from the personal attacks. But unfortunately we live in a very polarizing time. It's very much "if you're not with me, you're against me."
Fanboys will be fanboys. The only viable solution is to ignore them.
Personally, I find fanboys harder to ignore when they bash a game or platform. When they defend it? Eh, that's what fans do really.
she said he made good points in the review.
I really don't think her comments were aimed at his review but more towards the metacritic comment and the comment about the xbox live store.
i think that's a big distinction.
That's hilarious and sad. Console warriors man...
The problem that occurs then is seeing everyone who says something against a game or platform as a fanboy of something else. Criticism is something normal. That defense above is just bullshit. Saying for example Xbox has a problem with it's first party branch atm is not fanboyish, it's simple criticism.
His job IS to give an opinion though. How many reviewers have been trashing Sonic Forces and have pretty much told you to steer clear of it? This is the same thing.
It's kind of a 'you slam me, I slam them' thing. They said his opinion wasn't everyone's because the store score was higher, he said the store score doesn't matter because you don't have to own it to review it and that actual reviewers didn't like it...ignoring that he was responding to a thread about a review from a 'real critic' that did, indeed, like it.
Ryan really needs to learn to ignore or mute the people who go after him on Twitter. He continually feeds it by responding and complaining, then moans about how bad it gets.
I think with this context it's not so bad, just very poor wording on behalf of the Xbox repHere's the chain that Ryan was responding to:
https://twitter.com/Extremis1983/status/929044962238517248
McCaffrey wasn't reacting to Loftis. he was literally reacting to the average fanboy not liking his review.
And that's perfectly valid. The reviewer is saying "I can't personally recommend that you buy this game", but in the end it's up to you to decide whether you still want the game or not. Even if this had been the case, which it wasn't, Loftis's reaction was way out line. It's completely unprofessional to call out a reviewer because his bad review can potentially lead to fewer sales of your product.
It's also ironic that Loftis called him out on his review, when his review was "calling out" the game for its mediocrity. If you can't take them, don't deal them. Just take the negative review and work to improve your game.
Not to mention when the head of the brand does stuff like this. It emboldens and enables some oft he members that are more toxic in the fanbase to attack the journalist.
Twitter is a scary place! Those insane Xbox fans like Tim Dog and Crap Gamer get a ton of attention from the Xbox executives, though, which is even grosser IMO.
Well, the target audience is generally for children, is it not? That's what I mean.
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