Great news! Well deserved numbers. Congrats to everyone involved. Glad the game sold better than expected despite those who insisted they wouldn't touch it because of the character designs.
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Xenoblade Chronicles 2 shipped 1.31 million units. Best-selling "Xeno" title ever?
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Yeah that momo thing is iffy. Tho it did get better in X2 and X3. No more panty shots....looking at you X1
It will exist so it will indeed be something that we will see.
And u know whats funny. He said that he would also hate seeing Porn in his Gundam..... when literally porn is in the shows since the first one lol.
Loli bath scene? U got it.
Sex scene? Ohh don't worry Gundam also had that for ya guys.^_^
It is the same reason those people will keep complaining about Pyra and Dahlia every second while no one talk shit about Kos-Mos and T-Elos which shows up on Xeno 2 as they don't want to tarnish their beautiful Xenosaga memory.
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I mean, at the end of the day I'd like to think people should be happy for MonolithSoft that they have finally achieved a decent commercial success after so many years. And they accomplished this with a team that was reduced in staff and had to rely more on outsourcing as well.
The studio will hopefully be allowed more resources for their future titles. And of course, just the fact that they'll for certain be maintained by Nintendo as a worthwhile investment is alone good news.
The studio will hopefully be allowed more resources for their future titles. And of course, just the fact that they'll for certain be maintained by Nintendo as a worthwhile investment is alone good news.
I clicked post before I finished lol.
Meant to say wondering what direction they'll go design wise. Fates Awakening or Echoes.
But alas. I'm derailing and just leave it at that.
Honestly, I don't think FE Switch will have nearly the level of pandering and sexualization present in XBC2 or FE Fates. I even expect them to use a new artist instead of Kozaki.
That part is fair enough. I agree that Awakening and Fates get a lot of undue hate and it gets very silly sometimes. I just don't think it should be said that the only reason people praise or like Shadows of Valentia is out of spite and that it's actually a horrible game.
I don't think anybody isn't happy for them. At most, some people might not like the direction they are going with their games, but not so much to wish them ill. Like MonolithSoft went through soooo much to get to this point. Publisher issues and their own issues.
If anything I want them to pander even harder than they have before just to watch the fireworks here.
I sincerely hope you're right. God, it's been so long since there's been a Fire Emblem I've actually enjoyed.
Oh please. I am just kinda had it with so many FE purist fans who act like Awakening and Fates is what ruin FE while they keep praising Echoes. When all those release had its own problem there. Hell, i still dream that i would be able to see FE6 remake as that is my favorite and even i know that it had flaws there. It is the purist way of saying that keep triggering me here.
Except Kozaki didn't have that much to do with some of the bad designs in fates (IE, he designed Camilla but not her ""armor"") so FESwitch could give us a character that is running around in their underpants again if someone like Kusakihara demands it in the game.
I don't really care if they pander or not. As long as the gameplay takes a lot of lesson from Conquest, had great characters design like Awakening, Great music like Echoes and actually a great stories. I would eat taht game without any problem.
Awakening burned me out with the time travel and kid collection stuff. Never played Echoes because I was still scarred by Fates.
When the trailer shows the Tharja/Camilla/Charlotte or Nowi/Nyx character...
Oh boy
Well, aside from the fact I have repeatedly said the exact opposite of that over and over and over and over again. Come on, try man. There is more to this than must defend/attack nintendo.
Those conditions are just WHY it will be impossible for Xb2 to sell less than it's previous entries. The simple fact of the matter is, if the game wasn't of monolithsofts established design quality, there would be no expectations of it being impossible to sell less than predecessors. If the game dropped massively in design quality, the sales would be a crater, advantageous conditions or no. The quality of the gane is literally a cornerstone of the argument. It's a constant, it's Freaking modern monolithsoft. I wouldn't be able to make said argument if that were not the case. The fact it is such a strongly designed game is why they dropped the ball with its... narrower appealing coat of paint. And that's literally what a lot of people's problems are, a cosmetic coat of paint, that has nothing to do with the world design, or mechanics, or any other aspect of the actual game. But as you can see by every thread, it's become quite the point of contention.
Bro niche appealing games don't Get a freaking campaign demanding localization.... that succeeds. Niche games aren't the centerpiece of every direct they are in.... for YEARS. Xenoblade had a fire other jrpg's didn't, from the first time it was shown as Monado, with just running around the environments. And good niche jrpg's all too often don't even break 100k. This isn't a binary situation.
It's not sell at least 5 million or more and be a mainstream juggernaut, or you're Niche.
As for the older games, for starters, once you consider those games release environments you will get the similar advantages xb2 had over the other entries in the series. With the added advantage of being in the golden age of jrpgs.
A thirty year strong mascot character franchise shows how niche xenoblade is?
Kirby sales history demolishes metroids.
Does that mean metroid is some obscure no name series?
No, metroid is one of the most iconic brands in the industry. It's brand has massive recognition and power, and sales is only an aspect of that.
Being able to capitalize on that brand power, and get those potential sales such a powerful brand should be capable of, sadly, is more complicated than the surface glance would lead one to believe. It's something Nintendo has shown trouble with even with something as powerful as the metroid brand.
Here try this. Start naming actual gaming design related aspects of xenoblade 2 that make it such a great game (not things like cutscenes or writing, which make for great art, but things directly related to making a great game, that other mediums, like books or movies, just don't have). with some of your favourite examples.
Awakening saved the franchise and gave the series mainstream popularity, anyone who can't recognize that is fooling themselves. It's also a good game, it has some flaws but it made some very necessary changes to make the series more accessible.
I'm not saying Kozaki is fully responsible for the character designs, I'm just saying I think they will use a new artist in general. He clearly bears some responsibility though.
Nah they'll keep Kozaki but they're gonna tone down everything else. Int Sys is very receptive to people's feedback as they've shown time and time again and considering those elements were constantly criticized for Fates I wouldn't be surprised if the only element the remains is that one or two characters have a fanservice design and they'll probably be a side character you get in ch. 8 rather than one of the main casts. Y'know kind of like most other Fire Emblem games.
Echoes is nothing like Fates (that's both a positive and a negative). You should try it at least.
I actually think Fates had some of the better Character designs in the series. Felicia, Saizo, Azura, Effie (but terrible armor ruins her), Elise, Hinoka (she kinda looks like that one girl in Xenoblade 2 lol), Takumi, etc.
Enemy design alone is some of the best in the series. Those promoted classes looked great.
But I might be on the minority here
Enemy design alone is some of the best in the series. Those promoted classes looked great.
But I might be on the minority here
User Banned (1 Day): Advocating piracy.
Piracy is hardly an indicator of lost sales. People download just because they can. I know someone who downloads all the movies and shows at 4k blueray lossless, just because he can. That was literally his reason. Most pirates who like the game tend to buy it as well so it usually helps games a bit instead.
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017...acy-doesnt-hurt-game-sales-may-actually-help/
As a pirate who downloads games I would never pay for normally and buy the games if i do like them, I agree with that idea.
You aren't wrong, the base designs are better than Awakening's, especially for the Hoshidan design (I think Kozaki's style is far more suited to eastern weapons/armor than western). The writing is just far worse, and a few of the character designs really doubled down on the pandering, and the presentation doubled down on the pandering too (like Camilla's intro cutscene)
Nah you're right. Awakening and Fates' art and presentation in general is aces. Those characters are also some of the more popular characters from Fates too so its not like they're totally unappreciated.
Kirby actually doesn't "demolish" Metroid. The majority of both series' games fall into the 1-2m range
I'm not going to report you, but admitting to piracy can get you banned here. Don't do it.
Yeah, both of those statements make sense, though I don't think Kozaki had too much control in regards to the armor designs at least. I'd love if we could get Hidari back for FE16 but I'm inclined to say that she will be a one off unfortunately.
You just made me realize why I like Lora so much. That is quite the resemblance lol.
I think it's more likely for Hidari to do the next remake than the next original game in the series. Keeping a unified aesthetic for the Echoes branch of game seems like a good idea imo.
I'd be down with that. Hidari doing the Judgral and Elibe characters would be awesome.
Oh I didnt know. I dont edit my posts as a rule though. So let the chips fall as they land I guess. :(
That kills me as well. I will never get over the excuses people on here make for Bayonetta, 2B, Cindy, Lady, etc.
good to see xenoblade 2 do so well
some if the reactions here though..
would be nice to see Syrenne and co on better hardware
some if the reactions here though..
sequel or remaster would be fine with me
would be nice to see Syrenne and co on better hardware
Hidari's art is phenomenal, it would be a waste to have his art for only one entry.
Just figured I'd give you a heads up.
Can't have a Switch game sales thread without outdated tonedeaf starvation arguments.
Hungry since 1889.
Nice for the game and Monolithsoft.
Also, it seems that, for some people here, this game should stop to exist. I'll never understand that.
Also, it seems that, for some people here, this game should stop to exist. I'll never understand that.
Yeah I think you'e right, I went looking for other sources after your post, and they were a lot more consistent than what I glanced at (which I traced back to vgchartz so... whelp), and considerably lower. The top selling was the original, at 5 mil, and the first prime was at 4 something, so yeah it's too comparable for 'demolished.
But Kirby can be replaced with another well off selling game that's not Mario levels, metroids iconic status remains, despite its sales not matching it's massive brand power.
Actually, no, Kirby is consistently 1-2.5 million per entry. Metroid's highest entries read that amount.
Not gonna lie. I was really disappointed she didn't have a bigger role.
She was pretty cool. (Foolishly hoping DLC is about her)
Sometimes I think I'm the only one who loved FE Fates. I really like Echoes as well, especially since it has voice acting and the gameplay is a nice change of pace from others in the series.
I do hope they port X to the Switch. Never finished the game or did any of the multiplayer stuff on Wii U(which no longer exists now I think). The battle system in X gave me headaches though.(and the small print, lol). I kind of like that Xeno 1 combat was more simplistic, but still enjoyable and involved some strategy. Xeno 2 is pretty damn good as well once I understood the system.
I do hope they port X to the Switch. Never finished the game or did any of the multiplayer stuff on Wii U(which no longer exists now I think). The battle system in X gave me headaches though.(and the small print, lol). I kind of like that Xeno 1 combat was more simplistic, but still enjoyable and involved some strategy. Xeno 2 is pretty damn good as well once I understood the system.
New Fire Emblem artist is Xenoblade Chronicles 2's Masatsugu's Saito signing a new contract having him for the next 3 Fire Emblem games.
I wouldn't mind this at all as I think his art is good and he can make some great characters but this would absolutely induce the most salt.
Metroid prime is almost 3 or 4 million iirc.
But yeah, even so, I feel demolish is too strong a word looking back at it.
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