Regardless of everything else, it violates series canon of Kiryu never having a sexual encounter. It obviously had to go. So even if you think "it's the right thing to do" isn't good enough reason to remove it, add that to the list.
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Yakuza 3 remaster cut transphobic elements from original game
- Thread starter RPGamer92
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Your opinion is bullshit. People are getting hurt because of your hateful views so yeah you should be banned.
User banned (Permanent): transphobic trolling, history of severe infractions, account in junior phase.
I'm hurt by YOUR hateful view. You should be banned aswell.
It's cute how when people like this run out of ways to troll they just default to "no u" mode
I'mma be blunt here: rape isn't funny. Period. Using rape jokes to perpetuate tired, transphobic and homophobic stereotypes about the LGBT community is unquestionably offensive, and Nagoshi realizing that and working to improve his games in the remaster should be commended.
Not wanting to spread a hateful stereotype that hurts LGBT people is now hateful?
Fine, ban me if I am wrong.
Lol. So it works for your opinion but not mine. Such a hypocrite.
There are some dumb reasons in the japanese industry for never getting a job again like smoking pot. My favorite composer got done in by that but the latest Kaiji related series featured his music so i don't know what's up with that. There is social unrest and change happening there too and people who just don't know the language just make up myths to make it seem like no one there cares when that is simply false.
Which one of you is arguing for transphobia again? I forget...
Still pretty annoying when twitter eggs barge in to shit themselves here.
You'd think if you knew what you were doing you'd at least try a little harder. It's wild.
The original still exists. If you want to see this content, go find it or pull it up on YouTube.
But there is no need to include it now.
But there is no need to include it now.
Can understand that you see it that way. Just never saw Michirus acting (/rapeing)as an action that stands for the whole transcommunity or hatespeech against trans people.
Also, the way the story is presented plays into an offensive stereotype about gay and trans people. It just...doesn't do any good for the game, it doesn't do any good for Michiru and it doesn't do any good for Kiryu. It adds nothing to the game while actively making the experience hostile and toxic for LGBT players.
I would prefer they just replaced the sidequests with something less awful rather than cutting them outright, but I give Nagoshi full props for owning up to the fact that they messed up and working to remove that offensive portrayal from the remaster.
Oh come on! Would people please stop with this censorship nonsense? As people here pointed out, the creators themselves opted to make the changes. There's absolutely no censorship going on here. Please go read on some real censorship situations throughout history across the world to learn what it really is.
Content like the one being excluded from the game hurts people. Real people. And these kinds of "jokes" present in mass media entertainment products only ensure that people will continue to get hurt in the future. That's why it's being removed. Not because of some imaginary censorship situation.
They're not doing it because it might offend people, they're doing it because they changed their minds and think its wrong and they don't like that it's in their game. If anything people demanding it be kept are censoring their artistic expression.
Good. Never played the original version of the game, but this seems like something that was absolutely pointless and very clearly offensive without contributing anything to the story, setting or characters.
There are other types of content cuts that could be debated, such as removing stuff like mahjong or shogi because it was too Japanese or whatever. This isn't one of those.
There are other types of content cuts that could be debated, such as removing stuff like mahjong or shogi because it was too Japanese or whatever. This isn't one of those.
They removed the substory. There's really no text edit that could salvage it.
I remember it. I mean the character because the rest was forgetful. Nothing of value was lost I guess.
10 years ago that bit of story was just a dumb comedy shtick nobody gave a shit about.
How times change.
Thats a minor and good change. Nice to see.
Its kinda funny that the Yakuza series is one of the more forward thinking series nowadays.
Its kinda funny that the Yakuza series is one of the more forward thinking series nowadays.
It's just one of many examples of gay characters in media sexually harassing and/or outright assaulting men.
amazing how a small (but welcomed) change like this brings out the burner accounts and people crying censorship, yet this pales incomparison to the original western release of Yakuza 3 where there were quite a number of significant changes.
This thread, not just the main topic but also all the the other praise this series gets (in here and in the past), led me to finally pull the trigger on 0, as my first Yakuza game.
Would've happened eventually, I almost did it like a week ago actually... but now is good.
Would've happened eventually, I almost did it like a week ago actually... but now is good.
It's funny that people are crying censorship when we're getting back a bunch of content that was cut from the original Western releases.
Man i want to say it was either 0 or kiwami that dropped the ball with the pronouns too iirc. I know 0 walked a thin line with the phone sex operation but in that game, Kiryu expressed no remorse for the experience, only exhaustion.
Y0 is literally my second best game ever (just behind Super Mario 64), it is truly great.
You're in for a treat. Yakuza 0 is one of my favorite games ever.
Dude, you are in for a wild fuckin ride. Y0 is incredible. One of my favorite games of all time.
Being intolerant of intolerance isn't the same thing as being intolerant of transgender people, gay people or minorities. One thing is being intolerant of what people are, one thing is being intolerant of what idiotic, bigoted shitstains of humanity actually decide to do themselves, which fairly opens them for much deserved criticism.
Yep, not only is it one of the best Yakuza game ... it's one of the best games in general.
I'm pretty curious if 4's remaster had any changes... it had some pretty blatant transphobia and even rape jokes (in the localization, at least) so itd be nice to know how far they're willing to go when it comes to their modern values.
Every entry in the franchise has an awkward homo/transphobic moment in it sticking out like a sore thumb and itd be nice if they managed to start steering clear of them.
Every entry in the franchise has an awkward homo/transphobic moment in it sticking out like a sore thumb and itd be nice if they managed to start steering clear of them.
This game series is the only one that I have doubledipped PS4 and PC versions. And looks like I will continue doing so with everything this studio puts out.
I've not read anything about 4 still having those, though I'll be honest - I'm not quite sure if the dialogue was there in the Japanese version or added/changed for the translation. The rape line you mention was between Akiyama and Hana. Kinda hope they get rid of that one, I like Akiyama as a character and it just seems so damn out of character for him going by any other dialogue he gets in the series especially related to Hana - he's really fond of her.
Other than that though, the only changes I'm aware of in 4's remaster is the removal again of Answer X Answer, and you can no longer look at magazine covers. That's it. Oh, and Tanimura as well changed actor of course.
This is interesting. Props for removing it, absolutely. But why was it there in the first place?
No idea but 2009 was one hell of a different time. Crazy how things have changed in 10 years.
Hostesses only changed in 3 so far - and that was due to Sega licensing the hostesses from a real hostess club(s) instead of doing what they do now (auditions) so they swapped out the likenesses for the 10 or so hostesses in Yakuza 3. I've seen no comments from people who have played 4 so far saying similar has happened, though I can't comment myself as I've still not started my copy just yet (should get round to it next month with any luck)
