Zero, then Kiwami. Zero is by far the better game. Kiwami doesn't have as many things to do and the plot and substories are not as epic. It's still a good game but Zero is much better overall.
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Yakuza Kiwami 2 PC |OT| Big Trouble in Little Kamurocho
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Zero, then Kiwami. Zero is by far the better game. Kiwami doesn't have as many things to do and the plot and substories are not as epic. It's still a good game but Zero is much better overall.
So couple quick questions:
I just finished up Yakuza 0 on the weekend and popped in Yakuza Kiwami 1 for about an hour. I was a bit disappointed at first to see how much of Kiwami 1 appears to be a repeat/how much is missing ( such as the cabaret club). Does Kiwami 1 introduce anything new really or are all of the mini games re-used?
Is the story in Kiwami 1 worth seeing? Kiwami 2 seems so much more....interesting? I loved Yakuza 0, dont get me wrong, just coming straight off of it into Kiwami 1, it seems disappointing. Kiwami 2 seems so fresh that Im more tempted to jump into it
My understanding is that this uses the same engine as Yakuza 6? Does that mean that a lot of the mini games and locations are simply reused from Yakuza 6 like Kiwami 1 uses from Yakuza 0?
I just finished up Yakuza 0 on the weekend and popped in Yakuza Kiwami 1 for about an hour. I was a bit disappointed at first to see how much of Kiwami 1 appears to be a repeat/how much is missing ( such as the cabaret club). Does Kiwami 1 introduce anything new really or are all of the mini games re-used?
Is the story in Kiwami 1 worth seeing? Kiwami 2 seems so much more....interesting? I loved Yakuza 0, dont get me wrong, just coming straight off of it into Kiwami 1, it seems disappointing. Kiwami 2 seems so fresh that Im more tempted to jump into it
My understanding is that this uses the same engine as Yakuza 6? Does that mean that a lot of the mini games and locations are simply reused from Yakuza 6 like Kiwami 1 uses from Yakuza 0?
I'd like to play this on PC but I ended up refunding Kiwami on Steam and grabbing it on PS4 because I couldn't get my controller working. I'm using an XB1 controller with the USB adapter. I did a bit of google searching and there were a few guides on downloading some 3rd party software and messing with profiles. I guess I'd make that effort for legacy games that I really wanted to play but it's kind of annoying that this setup doesn't just work with a 2018 or 2019 release.
Did anyone else use that setup and have issues? Any chance Kiwami 2 has better support?
Did anyone else use that setup and have issues? Any chance Kiwami 2 has better support?
No offence but this is laughable. You make it sound like the rest of the series is trash and not worth playing. Your wrong, either way. People complain about 3's slow start but that doesn't make it a bad game. I'm hard pressed to think about what makes 4 bad aside from being a bit on the short side, but that's not a bad problem to have, especially with 5 being the opposite and being a juggernaut in terms of content, story suffers for it but its still damn good, just messy at the end. 6, Judge Eyes, Ishin and Kenzan are all excellent, and the PSP games are incredibly solid as well (especially the second one), those two might have better combat than the main games as well, can't decide, definitely more thoughtful, tougher combat which make for some far more interesting boss fights but those games lack more diverse heat moves and huge mob battles.
Yakuza always does this, aside from Ishin and Kenzan which are set in completely different time periods you'll always see a lot of asset reuse from mini games, combat, locations.
Anyway, Kiwami 1 does suffer with not having much new in terms of mini games, its worth noting that the original Yakuza had a tiny amount, most of what people come to expect from a Yakuza game weren't included until Yakuza 3 or later. Only things I can think of added to Kiwami over 0 is the photo booth (which is copied out from 5) and Mesuking (which is a mish mash of taking 0's terrible Cat Fighting but making it good, and taking inspiration of an actual Sega arcade game about bugs fighting, Mushiking or something like that).
The real big new content is all the weird and wonderful Majima scenarios you encounter throughout the game.
And as for Kiwami 2, its a mix of old and new. It takes mini games from past games (5, 6 and many earlier games) while adding a few new ones as well. Its missing a few from 0 (some gambling, bowling, billiards).
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Kiwami 1 is.. Well it's a thing. It's a remake of the first game, so story wise, super important.
But gameplay wise it kind of sucks and doesn't really add anything. Honestly, just watch the story stuff on youtube or something.
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Wouldn't go as far as to say "all downhill", but you're on the right train of thought when it comes to tempering your expectations. I personally agree with the consensus that upholds Yakuza 0 and Kiwami 2 as the best games in the series (at least, of the mainline titles, I've not played any spinoffs).
3 and 4 have some of the worst story elements in the series, 3 being where things start to get particularly silly, and 4 being (in my opinion) the worst Yakuza title next to the first game, due to multiple factors. 5 and 6 pick things back up, with 5 being a real treat, due to all the playable characters and locales, and being generally super diverse with its content. 6 just has good characters I enjoyed spending time with, even if it is a disappointing finale in some ways.
Nonetheless, if 0 or Kiwami 2 resonated with you in a big way, you owe it to yourself to eventually make your way through the rest and form your own opinion. There are a lot of differing mindsets on the later games. My opinion that Yakuza 4 is the worst is a very uncommon one, for example. At the same time, I think I like Yakuza 5 a good bit more than others generally do.
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3, 6 and Ishin are some of the best entries in the franchise, in my opinion.
That said, even the weakest mainline Yakuza games are all still excellent, so eh.
I used an XB1 controller with USB adapter for Y0 and Kiwami, 120 hours on those games with no controller issues. Sorry man
I'll give the setup another try. Glad to hear it's probably just a mistake I made and not an issue with the game. Thanks.
That would be my dream game. Majima plus city pop is an unbeatable combo.
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I'd love a Yakuza 0.5. Kiryu in jail is 1995 and beyond, though, which I'm not too sure city pop would fit into so well. Wikipedia says the popularity of the genre declined when the bubble era did, around 1990-1992.
Oh yeah I dunno what I'm thinking, I got my dates all messed the hell up.
Either way, 95 is good by me.
Ah, I wish I had the graphics card to play this again on PC...must be nice to play it at more a stable rate, hahaha.
This site did some tests and benchmarks on the port.
https://gamegpu.com/rpg/ролевые/yakuza-kiwami-2-test-gpu-cpu
Apparently on my configuration on Ultra at 1080p, i will get around 45-55fps... ouch... need to upgrade asap.
https://gamegpu.com/rpg/ролевые/yakuza-kiwami-2-test-gpu-cpu
Apparently on my configuration on Ultra at 1080p, i will get around 45-55fps... ouch... need to upgrade asap.
Since Kiwami 1 is a remake of the first Yakuza game it's got a lot less stuff in it. Its main and side stories are not quite as fun as those in Yakuza 0. It doesn't bring anything new to the table other than the Majima Everywhere system, which is actually one of the funniest parts of the game even if it becomes a bit tiresome in late game. I'd say it's worth playing at least to experience some of Majima's crazy antics. Then you can watch the main story on YouTube and jump into Kiwami 2.
It's a different thing as far as i am concerned. They build a new physics driven system for new consoles with 6, and i can definitly say Kiwami 2's better than 6 in that department. Some people disliked style-switching in Zero, because they'd just use one i guess, the new combat system is more meaty and has more hilarious physics happening to everything and some prefer the simpler style.
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Thank goodness it's not. I don't want no Pokémon-ass blocked off Champion District or anything. lol
What's different about this Kamurocho Vs the one we got in the earlier games? Genuinely wondering, I can't recall it missing anything compared to 1-3 (well, bar the tragic loss of Club Adam's side stories of course, dammit...). I know its missing the rooftops and sewers of 4 though (as well as the underground mall and parking lot), aside from a small sewer section, I forget how much of the underground 5 had, I know the rooftops were once again cut. Its still not as awesome as the Kamuro we get in Judge Eyes though, that's my favourite iteration aside from 4.
Great OT!
Really looking forward to this because I skipped on the console version thinking we would get it on PC before long. I go back and forth between Yakuza 2, 4 and 6 being my favorite games in the series, but with 2 now having the Dragon Engine and it's combat I can honestly see this one potentially being my favorite so far!
I can honestly see myself wasting hours playing Virtual-On and Virtua Fighter 2 in the arcades alone. This is going to be great.
Really looking forward to this because I skipped on the console version thinking we would get it on PC before long. I go back and forth between Yakuza 2, 4 and 6 being my favorite games in the series, but with 2 now having the Dragon Engine and it's combat I can honestly see this one potentially being my favorite so far!
I can honestly see myself wasting hours playing Virtual-On and Virtua Fighter 2 in the arcades alone. This is going to be great.
Yakuza Zero really is excellent. Yakuza 1 is okay. Yakuza 2 is good.
But yeah...Zero is just...man thats a good game.
But yeah...Zero is just...man thats a good game.
Really want to get this with the Voidu discount but need to see how my 970 will handle it first.
Already bought. Already pre-loaded. ALREADY EXCITE.
Yakuza's always a good time. Even the lesser games.
Yakuza's always a good time. Even the lesser games.
The layout of Campion distrct is slightly different. But that's not the big problem here. The north end of Pink street that leads to Shichifuku streen has been removed since 6/Dragon Engine.
Oh yeah, completely forgot they swapped around small parts of streets in the newer games (never even picked up on the Champion District changes!). Thinking about it some more, I was thinking it was stuff like certain shops moving location in Kiwami 2 while still being in the old locations in future Yakuza games - the Shogi parlor, Mahjong parlors, the Gelatto store being completely MIA etc. Nothing that's a big deal, but its kinda immersion breaking when you jump from certain entries in series.
Oof.
34 min 38 max fps at 4K Ultra for Dragon Engine on a 1080Ti according to that test above. Still going to be so worth it.
Edit - performance at 1080p/1440p/4k Ultra (FXAA) from that site above...
Good post. Looks like I'll get good FPS on my PC then.
I am interested to see how exactly they handle the yakuza 3-5 and yakuza 6 problem on Steam. Like, i'd love for them to release 3-5 first but there hasnt been much news on those for the west. Also curious how they would release those games. Individually or some bundle pack.
Doesn't look too good for my i5/GTX970 combo according to that site above. Well let's see. May even play it on the Pro. Don't want to upgrade my PC right now.
I have the same build so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it will be ok.
