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Y'all are sleeping on Claire Redfield.

PrimeBeef

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Maybe, just a wild guess, more people who played this game are males and identify better with male characters. So they chose Leon first. Then, after completing it, had no desire to play it all over again from a different perspective.

I can tell you I played the original once, beat it with Leon, and never picked it up again. I had no desire to play it from Claire's perspective. Just was not interested in playing it through again.
 
mattiewheels

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CesareNorrez said:
Story-wise you do Claire A/ Leon B or Leon A/ Claire B. They tell a full story that way. Claire A/Claire B would offer some progression differences but you would see the same story twice.
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Lol, ok now I have to ask what you refer to as A and B... is the original menu choice the A's and the paths once you beat the game the B's? This is a bit confusing for a new player.
 
CesareNorrez

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PrimeBeef said:
Maybe, just a wild guess, more people who played this game are males and identify better with male characters. So they chose Leon first. Then, after completing it, had no desire to play it all over again from a different perspective.

I can tell you I played the original once, beat it with Leon, and never picked it up again. I had no desire to play it from Claire's perspective. Just was not interested in playing it through again.
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The stories differ, some puzzles are altered, you some different areas, and see the complete picture that way, plus you get the extended true ending. So it's not simply playing it all over again.

But as a male, I prefer to see stories from perspectives not my own.
 
Astral

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Claire has that one badass shot when facing G3 and says badass shit like "come and get me I'm right here" to a giant monster in the original. Leon's "You got a problem with death?" Is pretty cool too though. Claire's Grenade Launcher is also way better than anything in Leon's arsenal. Claire is the superior choice. I've always seen Leon as the dorky sidekick, especially in the original.

"Why doesn't anyone ever listen to me?"
 
benzy

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REmake2 Claire is the goat. Her redesign is so good unlike that atrocity that's her brother.

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Revolsin

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Definitely edged into 'try-hard' territory in here with all this.

It's not exactly a mystery; RE4 is the most popular RE game by a mile and features Leon who was an awesome character. Of course people as a whole are more interested in his story.
 
Mars People

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I am actually pleasantly surprised that Claire is the default image on my lenticular slip case.
Usually the male character would be due to sexist reasons probably.

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PrimeBeef

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CesareNorrez said:
The stories differ, some puzzles are altered, you some different areas, and see the complete picture that way, plus you get the extended true ending. So it's not simply playing it all over again.

But as a male, I prefer to see stories from perspectives not my own.
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I get that, but it's essentially playing the game over again.
 
CesareNorrez

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mattiewheels said:
Lol, ok now I have to ask what you refer to as A and B... is the original menu choice the A's and the paths once you beat the game the B's? This is a bit confusing for a new player.
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A and B is just the terminology people used back in 1998, it's not used in the Remake. You have New Game, which we call A, and New Game (Second Run), which we call B.
The first character you play as always starts at the gas station, navigates the streets of Raccoon City after the car accident, and uses the main entrance of the Police Station. The Second Run character always starts in Courtyard of the Police Station and enters through a side entrance. Some puzzles are remixed between First and Second Run, progression is a bit different, and the First Run Character always has cutscenes with Marvin. Beyond that the the character specific stories are the same. For instance, Leon's side character is always Ada, he always goes through the gunshop, and he always fights his specific bosses.

The First and Second Runs are not wholly unique though, so there are certain story beats Claire A will hit, that Leon B will also hit. It makes for a questionable continuity.
 
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Ciao

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Wasn't Claire A/Leon B confirmed the canon route for the original RE 2? I did Leon first this time because... I don't know, I picked the first option.
 
takriel

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I'm a bit baffled why they didn't think to put Claire's campaign as the default option.
 
N.47H.4N

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I always choose her first because Leon is the best and I always save the best for later.I like her too,but Leon is my favorite RE character.
 
truly101

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I picked Leon first because I always started with him and did Claire in the second scenario because I enjoyed hers more in the original. Also if you want to boost Claire's numbers, put the "Let Me Live" alternate costume back in the game....like now. And they need to put the spiders back in. I mean, why'd they take them out?
 
Martinski

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Did not sleep on Claire. I did Claire A and Leon B. Leon was way harder since lickers and Mr X appeared much earlier and i feel like Claire had better weapons with the launcher and SMG.
 
鬼作.

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Popular character gets chosen more often, wow. People choose not to play as Claire because nobody gives a shit about Claire. It's not rocket science.
 
haotshy

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cj_iwakura said:
But I think the events of later games cement that they're just BFFs, Leon is team Ada and Claire is... uh...

Sometimes I wonder if she's batting for the other team.
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I could be misremembering, but I thought it was implied she was in a relationship with that guy in Revelations 2 that

betrayed Claire and her coworkers, then he transforms into a monster and is a boss fight (sorry, struggling to remember his name at the moment.)/Spoiler]

Then in REmake 2 she definitely seems to be crushing pretty hard on Leon.
 
Astral

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cj_iwakura said:
I chose Claire then and I chose her now. Best character.


"Did someone say shower?"


But I think the events of later games cement that they're just BFFs, Leon is team Ada and Claire is... uh...

Sometimes I wonder if she's batting for the other team.
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Well that one guy on Code Veronica loved her right? Lol. There was also the guy she seemed to have the hots for in Revelations 2 but who turned out to be an asshole.
 
pants

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Fascinating!

Anecdotally, I picked Leon first because I picked Leon first 20 years ago and was going for max nostalgia.

I actually am more excited about my Claire playthrough, but for this particular game actualizing my nostalgia (to really appreciate the remake) was more important than the new content.
 
Ralemont

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Nope! In fact when I was a kid my Leon disc broke so all I did was play Claire A over and over again. Definitely crushed hard on her.

The new VA was really great but I'd be lying if I said I didn't miss Alyson Court.
 
Karlinel

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Claire is, I think, absolutely badass in this remake. She wasn't a damsel in the OG, but here...man, simply the "no, I GOT THIS" line is awesome!
 
Arttemis

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I wish I had chosen Claire first. I always did in the original release, and the story flows better that way in the remake, too.

Someone had said Leon's story makes more sense because you approach the RPD from the front with him. It's a friggin identical approach regardless of whom you choose!
 
CrocoDuck

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Both characters aren't nearly as cool/awesome as their original versions.

Love Claire and Leon, but both suck in the Remake.
 
Gibson

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Claire has a great personality in the remake. She's a very well realized character.

In the Leon play through I did enjoy his chemistry with Ada (though short lived). Overall I was surprised with the acting, it was actually good and had some nuance to it, RE has come a long way.
 
entremet

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Leon is just too classic. Don't forget his massive popularity from one of the GOAT games--RE4.

So I'm not surprised at the results.

Plus the whole rookie cop thing is rather cool.
 
Mórríoghain

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Never was a big RE fan. I am a newcomer to the "old RE" games and I think Leon is a fucking deadweight, a gullible little kid. I found Claire's character and story much much more interesting.
 
entremet

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Pizza_King said:
The reasoning seems pretty simple. Leon looks badass in his tactical gear, while Clair looks like some generic chick - who do you think the casual player is going to want to play a survival game as?
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Yep. I get why they kept Claire's pedestrian wardrobe. But it is really weird given the circumstances lol. Yes, I know it is a surprise that the outbreak happened. But from a character design perspective, she's very boring.

Ada looks way better and cooler character design wise.
 
Valcrist

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Leon has the best character in the series in his playthrough. He wins.
 

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Rookie cop Leon in the 90s is too good to pass as a first playthrough sorry
Will play both tho for sure, which is what this thread is about btw!

Still waiting for my copy... fucking base.com
 

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I usually dont give a shit about costumes but Claire's RE1.5 biker costume looks amazing btw!

I LOVE how it looks for whatever reason. Its the color scheme I suppose
 
data west

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Every game with a male and female lead on ERA now has to have a thread where it indirectly dumps on the lead male's VA for some reason.
 
AnthPerri

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I didn't read all of that OP. Just here to say that was beautifully formatted, and I will play Claire first in your honour.
 

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data west said:
Every game with a male and female lead on ERA now has to have a thread where it indirectly dumps on the lead male's VA for some reason.
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As someone who played Leon's campaign first, I find his VA to just be okay - a little bland, but not the worst I've ever heard (recent example I could think of is deimos Alexios in AC Odyssey; others may not feel the same, but I thought it was pretty bad like damn). Dude definitely pulls off the awkward flirt and puppy love just fine, but kinda falls flat when he doesn't have anyone else to bounce off to. I'm largely indifferent to his character until he interacts with Ada and Claire; it's like they breath life into him or something lmao (not that I blame him).

Every scene he's had with Claire I definitely feel the latter steals. Personally looking forward to playing her campaign from the beginning.
 
Huey

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CaptainKashup said:
Claire's story is genuinely better then Leon's.
I played this game with my mom and sister, they loved her at lot.
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Yeah I'd agree - she is just such a well done character in this game. Her responses in game and her behaviour in cutscenes are all just so consistent, and in some cases, surprising for a game.
 
blinky

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I started with Claire, and I'll probably finish her A scenario tomorrow sometime. Then it's on to Leon B.

I've played RE4 literally more times than I can count, so I wanted to start off with a comparatively fresh character.
 
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