Oh man, I would absolutely love to see the meltdowns if the Sinnoh remakes have the Let's Go style.As they have said in interviews, it seems likely that Pokémon Let's Go will start a second series of core main RPGs that will exist with the more traditional ones. This may be where some of the confusion lies as people seem to struggle to comprehend two Pocket Monsters Series games so I always use the Mario analogy.
New Super Mario Bros. U is a mainline Mario game
Super Mario Odyssey is also a mainline Mario game
They're two different genres but they're both mainline. I imagine if Let's Go is successful, and Gen 8 is equally successful, then we'll get the two running concurrently (probably one year Gen 8, next year Let's Go remake and so forth. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if remakes were shifted into the Let's Go arm)
Then we have the people bringing up Colosseum & XD. I always have to point them to the Japanese official site which lists them under "Other"
The most simple way of describing it is:
If it's ポケットモンスター in the game name, it's main/core
If it's ポケモン in the game name, it's spin-off
It'd be glorious hahaOh man, I would absolutely love to see the meltdowns if the Sinnoh remakes have the Let's Go style.
By this logic, something like Persona is a mainline SMT game whether we like it or not.
Let's Go is a spin off.
To be fair, spin-off games don't do amazingly wellDo people really think the developers have to say "It is a core game" for it to sell? Have you been paying attention to Pokemon sales since Pokemon became a thing?
Mainstream won't care about this whole core or not core business, hell I bet these terms will not even reach them, this whole thing only serves for nerds like us to claw at each other at dumb terminology, just like we did with the whole "Mario 3D World=not a real 3D Mario" or "Not a real JRPG" bullshit.
I'd take the developer and publisher's word of what the game is (calling it Core/Main) over the Internet trying to reach to claim otherwiseLet's Go is not part of the mainline games no matter how much people want to pretend it is. As an actual mainline game, Let's Go would be a notable regression in a wide variety of aspects. At best it's an attempt to branch off a more casual-focused spin-off series.
Pokémon Quest is a Pokémon RPG developed and directed internally by Game Freak.
It is clearly a spinoff
Well that game is classified as an RPG. Just saying.When I say Pokemon RPG do you really think im referring to a mobile clicker type game and not the RPGs in the traditional sense?
Oh man, I would absolutely love to see the meltdowns if the Sinnoh remakes have the Let's Go style.
Sorry I should have included this in my post to begin with, but I don't put any particular stock in that. It can be a second "Pocket Monsters" series just fine but that doesn't make it part of the mainline games. You could maybe say it's creating a new second mainline, but then you need qualifiers to separate the two.To be fair, spin-off games don't do amazingly well
I'd take the developer and publisher's word of what the game is (calling it Core/Main) over the Internet trying to reach to claim otherwise
Uhh, I guess call them whatever you want but the Let's Go games have some pretty distinct mechanics from the other titles. That's why it's status as a mainline/core title is contentious, not a confusion over mainline vs core.
OP you are perfectly right.
At the same time you can have different "tiers" of games in a core series.
Let's take the Zelda series as an example. Breath of the Wild, Twilight Princess, Phantom Hourglass, Triforce Heroes and Four Swords Adventures are all core games, all having the "The Legend of Zelda" moniker which the spin-offs (like Hyrule Warriors, Crossbow Training and the Tingle game) are laking.
However, we all agree that Twilight Princess and Breath of the Wild are "tier A" games: the milestones of the Zelda series, AAA games made by some of the most talented people over Nintendo. Nintendo even acknowledged this in the SS reveal trailer, by referencing OoT, MM, WW and TP.
Then we have "tier B": the 2D games. They are still mainline (and good games!) and they are used by the Zelda team to experiment some stuff which may or may not find their way in the next, major "tier A" installement, but the overall ambition of the game is lower and so are the sales and the fan expectations.
And then we have "tier C": the multiplayer games: Four Swords, FS Adventures and Triforce Heroes.
For the Pokémon series we have:
Tier A games: the new-gen games: RG, GS, RS, DP, BW, XY, SM and their extensions (B/Y, C, E, Pt, BW2, USUM)
Tier B games: the remakes: FRLG, HGSS, ORAS
Tier C games: the Let's Go series
People insecure about the direction of the series with respect to their own expectations try to downplay LGPE, but they're core games.
I can't look forward to them, and to Pokémon 8 next year.
No core game has had no wild battles..
This is not a core game, its a spin off.
Core game is in 2019
If Let's Go manages to replace the remakes that'll be a travesty. The best part of the remakes is bringing the old games up to the current standards, and Let's Go is pretty antithetical to that.Oh man, I would absolutely love to see the meltdowns if the Sinnoh remakes have the Let's Go style.
At least it'd play better than 4th gen.Oh man, I would absolutely love to see the meltdowns if the Sinnoh remakes have the Let's Go style.
No core game has had no Pokemon gyms...No core game has had no wild battles..
This is not a core game, its a spin off.
Core game is in 2019
It's not because someone says a game looks dumb, watered down or unambitious that it means they're badmouthing you for wanting to play it. It's your right to play it and no one's gonna insult you for this.
People just get annoyed because Gamefreak is handling a multi million franchise that fails to evolve at a sufficient pace on some departments.
No core game has had no Pokemon gyms...
SM is not a core game, its a spin off.
Sorry, I meant I can't wait to look forward to them.I look forward to both titles as well for very different reasons. Similarly I also will continue to play multiple smash bros games simultaneously despite people relentlessly telling me otherwise.
Ill also keep watching Sun and Moons anime, despite so many of the same Pokemon fans trying to tell everyone how "bad" the new designs are.
If Konami said that Metal Gear Survive was a mainline Metal Gear game, would there be no possible argument against that?The amount of denial in this thread is amazing.
If the developers that are making the fucking game say it's a mainline title then it's a mainline title.
Period.
It's not out yet so isn't on the list
If there had been a consistent effort to have core MGS games named "metal gear solid", and it's been officially addressed as such over years, and then MGSurvive had been called Metal Gear Solid: Survive, then yes. But none of those things have happened (because Konami created the game as a spin off) so it's a ridiculous false equivalent.If Konami said that Metal Gear Survive was a mainline Metal Gear game, would there be no possible argument against that?
If Konami said that Metal Gear Survive was a mainline Metal Gear game, would there be no possible argument against that?
If Konami said that Metal Gear Survive was a mainline Metal Gear game, would there be no possible argument against that?
Really, this is it.I'll go one step further than the other poster. The amount of denial in this thread is embarassing. I'd be embarrassed to be a pokefan at this point.
Entitled Pokemon fans are really the worst. Can't believe there's such a hissy fit when there's another game more to their taste coming out next year.Really, this is it.
As a fan of Pokemon for all my life- really, it's been so long that I don't remember a time when Pokemon wasn't a part of my life in a major capacity- the reaction to LGPE has been so embarrassing and pathetic, I feel ashamed to consider myself a part of the same group.
Really, this is it.
As a fan of Pokemon for all my life- really, it's been so long that I don't remember a time when Pokemon wasn't a part of my life in a major capacity- the reaction to LGPE has been so embarrassing and pathetic, I feel ashamed to consider myself a part of the same group.
Let's Go is not part of the mainline games no matter how much people (and I'm including Game Freak and TPC in this) want to pretend it is. As an actual mainline game, Let's Go would be a notable regression in a wide variety of aspects. At best it's an attempt to branch off a more casual-focused spin-off series.
Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 are mainline entries in the Metal Gear series.If there had been a consistent effort to have core MGS games named "metal gear solid", and it's been officially addressed as such over years, and then MGSurvive had been called Metal Gear Solid: Survive, then yes. But none of those things have happened (because Konami created the game as a spin off) so it's a ridiculous false equivalent.
I'll go one step further than the other poster. The amount of denial in this thread is embarassing. I'd be embarrassed to be a pokefan at this point.
Yes, outside core mechanics (which will be included in the upcoming traditional Pokemon game) they have similarities, but I think plenty of people, myself included, consider the core mechanics to be important.Story driven single player cinematic focused MGS vs multiplayer base defense game that Kojima had no part in? They're not even the same genre.
Outside of the GO stuff these games seem to play almost identically to the usual Pokemon formula beat for beat.
Zelda LBW changed up the formula much harder and wasnt on consoles but its still a core Zelda game.
A Pokémon game that only has 1 out of 7 generations of Pokémon isn't a core game imo, so unless you can transfer other Pokémon to it I won't see it as such.
A Pokémon game that only has 1 out of 7 generations of Pokémon isn't a core game imo, so unless you can transfer other Pokémon to it I won't see it as such.
R/B/Y did not have 1 out of 7 generations. It had 1 out of 1 generations. The entire selection of pokemon at the time.By your logic then Red, Blue, and Yellow aren't core games because they only have one generation. Re-read what you wrote again.
If a statement from a developer clearly disregards reality, then I have no qualms with ignoring it. For the same reason, I'd dismiss the whole "Smash Wii U is Smash 5" thing out of hand even if it wasn't sort of dubious that that was what the statement from Sakurai actually meant.You're kidding right? Do you own Pokemon? Do you work for GameFreak? If the answer for those two questions are No. Then deal with the fact that the developers just called the Let's Go series a core game.
R/B/Y did not have 1 out of 7 generations. It had 1 out of 1 generations. The entire selection of pokemon at the time.
If a statement from a developer clearly disregards reality, then I have no qualms with ignoring it. For the same reason, I'd dismiss the whole "Smash Wii U is Smash 5" thing out of hand even if it wasn't sort of dubious that that was what the statement from Sakurai actually meant.
Re: MG1 & 2 I don't know what point you're trying to make here. Those examples further back up my point. It's a totally nonsensical equivalent.Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 are mainline entries in the Metal Gear series.
Yes, outside core mechanics (which will be included in the upcoming traditional Pokemon game) they have similarities, but I think plenty of people, myself included, consider the core mechanics to be important.
There is a new naming convention because this is a new direction for the series, and the traditional/mainline/core game will be out in 2019.
Pokémon has a pretty established remake formula for mainline games at this point. They always include all the current Pokémon, and sometimes even introduce new forms from Pokémon not of the same generation.You're forgetting the part how this game is a remake of Yellow. So it should only have one generation of Pokemon.