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Yesterday, Star Citizen held a $275 dinner available only to users who had spent $1000+ where they announced a new $675 ship
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They don't give a fuck at this point. No consideration for optics. Just give us your money and don't bother asking when the game is coming out we'll release it whenever the fuck we feel like it.
I dont understand what the point in getting all those ships from the start. Like you are just bypassing the crucial part of the game
Tickets were up for about 45 seconds for each wave before being sold out.
Did anyone from ERA attend? Was it at least comparable to Blizzcon style events? Given SC has an accurate to-scale universe, how will minefields function when approach points and distances are near infinite? Are they purely for laying around space stations? Is an 8 person ship with a passive defense system viable in a game which currently has 50-player servers?
This is honestly starting to sound like the Church of Scientology.
But it ain't going well.
CIG has missed deadline after deadline that they themselves have set.
God, this really does put it all into perspective.
Some more: Fire Emblem went from near-cancellation to one of Nintendo's biggest franchises
Nintendo went from a historic high to a massive slump to another high
Xbox went from Mattrick trying to push the Kinect to Spencer burying it
Fortnite had only barely started development, went through notorious development hell, came out, bombed, then made a comeback
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Star Citizen is about 1% complete in regards to what they said would be in the game. There are delays everywhere and goals they said was reached in kickstarter and afterwards would be in game will never be. They gathered more money than all other video games kickstarted combined and yet they are nowhere near a finished product after several years from their initial promise to their backers.
You my friend and your 1000$+ invested palls might look at it like everything is fine but believe me everyone else can see it really is not.
A 200 million budget and after several years of development the state of the game alpha or whatever you want to call it is not exactly breathtaking and they still need to resort to inviting the people who spend the most on the game to spend money to go to a place to spend money on a extremely expensive dinner just to be asked to spend money on a 675$ ship that is not even in the game.
That my friend is a scam.
I really wanted to play this game at one point. The concept is certainly appealing. But, then you hear about things like this. The mismanagement of all the money they've been given. They keep selling dreams and not delivering. They've missed SO MANY deadlines by this point it's hard to understand how anyone is still buying in. It's extremely disappointing that this is the news we get about a video game instead of it actually delivering on all the things it keeps selling.
This is regular menu at the place:
Remember when people made fun of paying for horse armour? Now we have the absurdity of $675 ships that require a $275 entry fee to get first.
Chris Roberts had Jeffrey Epstein killed because he tried to get a refund on a ship, it all makes sense now
Hey, remember when CIG raised $46 million in private equity to help finish the game (on top of the $211 million crowdfunded budget)?
I hope the food was good, at least.
I hope the food was good, at least.
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So basically if you go as a party of five a regular night and buy a three course meal each at this place and pay for the most expensive dishes you would still get away with less then one person attending this event would pay.
Sounds fair.
I could see this dinner being the thing that finally makes Sterling go "okay, what in the fuck" and do a video about how obviously this is the business version of Roberts tying a bit of fishing wire to an X-wing with the Star Wars bits filed off, climbing into a limo and driving away while space sim fans chase frenetically after the spaceship, honestly
I don't understand, how on Earth are they going to spend all of that money before they finish the game?
Thanks for that :)
Well, i am not jealous one bit looking at the menu.
You cannot even end your dinner with a XO special or XO supreme cognac... i mean... i am not asking for a Louis XIII, but they could have a Martell...
It's all about the company you have at the table and the worth of the cause at Gala dinners anyway, not really the food...
I disagree, those tickets are sold out...
For me, is quite the opposite, they know their players well enough to pull this stunt and succeed.
Not many studios can say that, it's admirable on a twisted way.
You do know that games are in alpha for almost their entire development. Beta is just a short time where the game is content complete, where polishing is the last phase. Star Citizen and Squadron 42 went in full production in 2014. You can't really compare them with already established studios, since they build 5 studios in a short time. Jup i invested already around 6K, and i'm not planning for 10K or something like others, but i have no regret. My focus is not getting more ships ingame but do explore with my Org, making money and build an base on a planet or moon. Trading, hauling, scouting, deep space exploration, fighting, building, reclaiming etc. A lot of things i want to do and some of them are already ingame.
It's worse than that. To be concierge, you need to have previously spent... $1000, I think, to be eligible.Remember when people made fun of paying for horse armour? Now we have the absurdity of $675 ships that require a $275 entry fee to get first.
Concierge is a special 'status' for high spenders within the Star Citizen community, giving them exclusive access both in- and out- of the game. There's a good youtube series that covers it and more. Can't remember which part dives into concierge specifically, though.
Seriously. Imagine this business model but with Star Wars. EA could keep it going for decades without ever having to finish a game.
Pressure made EA remove lootboxes from BF 2.
I really don't know how SC can just keep going
2014 is FIVE years ago. That should be long enough to get even an ambitious game out the door. The talking point that the game didn`t fully start production well after it was announced no longer have any value, because it is sufficiently long ago for the game to be completed anyway.
I would like to add that 2014 was the game`s original suggested release date (if Wikipedia is to believed). It seems strange to promise a release date and then not start development until that very same years, even after having shown tech demos.
I get this odd feeling that the questions in the OP weren't meant to be answered and the responses gotten were exactly what was expected...
the whales will be going to need therapy with the PTSD they'll get once the game is cancelled
not enough SJWs in the team
not enough SJWs in the team
SC's long-ass development cycle might be a little more forgivable if it was at least close to being finished, but they haven't so much as come up with an actual gameplay loop.
There's been plenty of Star Citizen outrage, it's basically just spread out over the course of like, ten years.
Do you think every game goes into full production day one? This is not something unique to star citizen but every game have a smaller team in the beginning and then at the mid-end goes into full production so don't even try to pull that shit.
Difference is most other games don't have a 250 million budget and still feel the need to milk their whales to more empty promises and any sane publisher would have fired the guy in charge of this mess ten times over at this point the problem here being there is no one to fire Chris because he himself would have to do it.
And this alpha is nowhere near a beta. It's a fraction of the game that runs like a turd especially when people are around and this is supposed to be an mmo.
But sure I can't tell you that you have not got 6k worth of it already I mean some people likes to get a fat person to sit on them and pays a lot for it but for me and I bet the majority of us here on earth both sound like a bad investment.
Dude managed to get a Hollywood movie off of really, really bad and amateur stuff for PC games (like, "Sci-Fi Channel would refuse this" stuff), gotta respect that hustle at least
If that doesn't sound cult-like I just don't know. Like one of those crazy ranks in scientology.
The truth will be revealed once you've spend $50.000
To be fair, as shitty as this funding model is, they are developing not one but two games and both are pretty much on the higher echelon of video games in terms of what they are trying to achieve technically & visually. Especially the (online) space sim part is probably one of the most ambitious singular game projects ever to exist, considering what they are trying to achieve. It's a really not all that unreasonable that it has taken 5 years so far. Much like Red Dead Redemption 2 took forever (and that's with, like, 1000+ developers at R*, someone mentioned Star Citizen is "only" 500). The original date was maybe for 2014 but with super successful Kickstarters, that leads to expanding on the scope & quality of the project, so we are still within somewhat reasonable timeframe for a project as massive as this.
Honest question:
I haven't followed this game very closely. I know I've read a lot of posts saying that the game is "a scam" and all that, but is that really true or is it a bunch of jokes? What are the odds that this game is actually a scam? What, exactly, makes it seem like a scam?
I haven't followed this game very closely. I know I've read a lot of posts saying that the game is "a scam" and all that, but is that really true or is it a bunch of jokes? What are the odds that this game is actually a scam? What, exactly, makes it seem like a scam?
Jim Sterling has said before that he's aware of the stuff that goes on with SC, but he said really doesn't know enough about it to cover it so he doesn't.
You can keep repeating "it's only been in development for five years", but, uh, Chris Roberts of 2012 would disagree with you.
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