We dont have yards without Some kind of barrier here I dont think.
Edit: and deer and birds are wild animals.
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You would agree my neighbors are being uppity jerks/dumbasses here, right?
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We dont have yards without Some kind of barrier here I dont think.
Edit: and deer and birds are wild animals.
I have a dog and understand that when they decide to go they need to go and having someones dog shit on the sidewalk is disgusting and much harder to clean up. I don't see how people expect owners to walk their dog and let them relieve themselves if every miserable house owner is freaking out over an animal shitting on their lawn. If they don't clean it? Sure that is infuriating and unfortunately happens a lot but otherwise it's so petty to get upset over the situation if they clean up.
Yeah, this is exactly the attitude I was talking about! Why so defensive about your trash?
Fularu - I'm not talking about coming into your home, or even onto your property. I live in a neighborhood with alleys, and most people leave their trash cans accessible in the alley behind their house, or just out on the street in front. The smell isn't noticeable in your home, any more than the rest of the trash in your can.
I wouldn't really consider this as me pushing my responsibilities onto you since you don't need to interact with the poo whatsoever.
whatsinaname My neighborhood doesn't have public trash cans, since it's strictly residential. And yes, I'll take it home if I don't see a can that's accessible from the sidewalk- I would never walk up someone's driveway, for instance.
Again with the issue of smell. Can you currently smell your trash can from inside your home?
For my part, I'm more concerned with the homeless population digging stuff OUT of my trash, and leaving it strewn about. I don't care if a neighbor wants to drop something in as they walk by- it's all going to the same place anyway.
I wouldn't want someone's dog peeing in my yard because it kills the grass, poop I don't care about if they pick up after it. I'm not gonna throw a fit about it though, but if I started to notice my grass dying I'd same something in a friendly way.
Everyone has a right to not want their yard to be pissed or pooped in. Doesn't matter if your dog "has to go", it's their yard.
Dog owner here, I get it. Dog pee messes grass up pretty bad. I try to get the dogs to go on that little strip between them the sidewalk and the street. It works 90% of the time, but I'm not moving them if they decide to poop in a yard. I just scoop after.
I am astonished that shitting on someone's property is okay to some people. I don't care if it is picked up, if I saw it, me and you are going to have a problem.
You are way in the wrong here OP. Why would you let your dog poop and pee on someone else's lawn? You really shouldn't even be letting your dog on to other people's lawns in the first place so I'm really confused as to why you think it's impossible to stop your dog from doing its business on someone else's lawn. Just don't let your dog onto other people's lawns, it's not that hard. You don't have to literally yank your dog away.
I don't think these people are being unreasonable, it's their lawn and property, you (general term) aren't entitled to use their lawn for your dog to relieve itself. I'm not going to freak out if you let your dog poop on my lawn, clean it and leave but it's rude to do and if it was something you did regularly, it's not insane to ask people to not do that. It's pretty clear from your story that your neighbors are constantly dealing with other people letting their dogs go on their lawn. It really doesn't seem like a one time thing that someone overreacted to.
The sidewalk is public. Someone's lawn is not. That's the difference.
Also acting like you can't walk your dog because of homeowners "freaking out" is such an exaggeration. It takes no effort to keep your dog off peoples' lawns. You're acting like you have no control over your dog.
Honestly, people who say that give me the impression that they don't properly train their dogs or simply don't care. I've never had my dog piss or poop on someone else's lawn because my dog doesn't step foot on it. It's really not that difficult.
I take my bins into my garage for 6 days of the week. Dog poop sitting in a closed area for a day stinks, let alone five days.
Sure, this is just dog poop. But there could be a ton of other material dropped into my bin that I might be liable for. And it technically counts as illegal dumping in many states.
My neighborhood is a mix of houses with yards, and apartment buildings that tend to fill the entire lot.
Makes sense. Where I live, almost no one has grass, and people tend not to care to much if your dog pees on their pebble garden or whatever.
If someone is lawn-proud however, I'd be surprised that they didn't have some sort of a barrier between the yard and the street.
"It's not a big deal" isn't a valid response. It's irrelevant whether or not you think it's an issue, if the owner of a yard/garden doesn't want your dog walking around or shitting on their property then that is literally the end of the discussion.
It is a bit crazy and it's hard to avoid sometimes. But I do understand that female dogs have ammonia in their urine and can sort of burn "holes" in grass. I always kept my male dog on the boulevard just to avoid confrontations. The few times I couldn't stop my dog from taking a dump on a lawn and got yelled at, I just picked up after him and went on my way.
Having dogs shit on a sidewalk is disgusting. Grass is both easier with pee and cleaning up poo. My dog only goes to the washroom on my lawn but if there is ever a time where we aren't at home then any grass is the immediate choice rather than having her pee and poo on the pavement.
Obviously some of you are made miserable over petty things. I don't get bothered by this and I experience it constantly every day. I have more important things to worry about in life than someones dog pooing or peeing on my lawn.
A) I'm not talking about walking into your garage to drop poop in your can; I was pretty clear about that. And I'm also not putting in unbagged poop that could leave residue- that's just nasty.
B) I'm just talking about poop here. If you're seeing motor oil, old batteries and electronics, or medical waste being dumped in your can, that's a completely separate issue.
In terms of legality (again, strictly regarding bagged poop) I think law is on the side of the person dropping poop. The supreme court precedent is that trash in a can on the street is public domain, so I'd assume that this goes the other way as well.
This is what I always do to the best of my ability. My dog understands "not your grass" if she starts sniffing around a neighbor's yard.
Several neighbors have trained their dogs to run to another yard to do their business, with the person just opening their front door and waiting for the dog to come back. Very disrespectful.
Also, what's with everyone saying that a dog can't control where they go, or they might only be able to go under specific circumstances, etc? You can train a dog to shit anywhere with a little effort. Unless there's something specifically wrong with the particular dog.
Doesn't matter. It's their property. It's not a free for all for every entitled pet owner.
Lol! They must have watched "The Burbs" too much.
I assumed people in the thread were talking about dogs on leash, peeing onto a yard from the sidewalk. I think there's no question that you shouldn't be letting your dog walk around in someone else's yard, and you absolutely shouldn't be letting them run around the neighborhood off-leash.
Why should your dog's poop fester in my can and garage in the heat for a week? What if the bag breaks and it smears everywhere?
Usually not allowed by HOA's.
This is a serious response? Someone else's lawn is free to use as you see fit because you don't worry about it on your lawn?
I clarified in a later post. I was just letting others know not everyone has a yard. Some people are crammed in cities without even any semblance of a front yard.
Translation: "I let my dog crap on other people's property and I don't have an issue with it. Therefore everyone who doesn't like it must be miserable and petty."
Frankly, picking up after your dog regularly is part of being a dog owner. Bag it, move on. Some shit is just too tiny to see, that's why cats are some peoples #1 choice.
I am forced to leave my trash bin out on trash collection days. I have come back home and found bags of poop in my unlined bin that I have to deal with till the next trash day. If that 12 hr period where I have to leave them out means you can legally put your dog poop bags in, there's not much I can do. But I will absolutely still think of it as a dick move.
This is a weird tangent that has nothing to do with my points. I'm dropping bagged dog poo in cans that live permanently on the street/in an alley. That's it.
My dog is trained to walk on my right side so I keep her on the grass between the sidewalk and the street. I don't like letting her go in other people's yards so this Doesn't sound unreasonable to me.
Also don't put your shit bags in other peoples trash what is wrong with some of you?
Also don't put your shit bags in other peoples trash what is wrong with some of you?
Yeah, I see your point, and this was a miscommunication. I'm putting poop into cans that are permanently positioned on the street or in an alley. Not in cans that are just out for the day for trash collection.
Wait, people in this thread are upset that a dog crapped on their lawn even if the owner scooped it up after?
LOL, the things some people get upset about.
LOL, the things some people get upset about.
Even then, people may be particular about when they bring out their own trash. Having poop in there invites pests that they weren't planning to deal with.
Please read my entire response.
I have people let their dogs shit on my street side patch of grass every day. Every now and then they don't pick up. If I catch them in the act I go out and politely say, "hey you forgot something"
I don't yell about the pissing. It's bad for the grass but the neighborhood silent tradition is to let it slide. The grass verges are homeowners property and responsibility but they're also on the public sidewalk. That's fine. I also have a hydrant on my corner so it would be like asking someone to tell their baby to stop crying.
Every now and then though. — people put their bags of dog shit in my trash. Not curbside- they literally walk up my driveway to do it.
The city considers it a biohazard and trash collectors can and do refuse to take away your garbage on trash day if there's a baggie of dogshit in the bin. Further trash collectors work a lot fucking harder than I do for a lot less — in rain and snow and filth and sometimes extremely dangerous conditions and scary neighborhoods and they encounter homeless mentally ill people, gang bangers in alleys, escaped vicious dogs, rats, syringes, corpses, ordure and disease. When you add your upper middle class lazy fucker bag of pedigree dogshit to their day, you're not only trespassing on my property and insulting me — you're treating blue collar essential but thankless service men and women with less respect than you have for Fido's puckered little kibble nozzle. So when I catch them doing that I am a lot less polite. They can place the bags in the public and park trash cans where the regulations and pickup procedures account for that. Or they can take it to their own exquisite million dollar craftsman home.
The onus is then on the homeowner to collect the bagels of shit and carry them to a park or city trash can- or the garbage collection (which we pay for) doesn't happen.
I have had two very angry and irrational shouting matches with adult professionals in my driveway over the years because these entitled turds actually have the gall to push back.
Poop rage and road rage will be the death of me and I know better but it sets me off. Everything goes first pitch black then bright red.
I assume my post has enough information to eliminate any chance of a hot-take pushback on the law, the reason or the logic. Obviously my temperament is neither safe nor acceptable but it's my Achilles heel and I try to breathe deeply before going out to talk to them.
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Ah, ok. That makes more sense then. I am in a high traffic area, the city does not allow us to keep our bins out like that indefinitely.
One time as an accident is whatever, doing it every single day is not ok.
Obviously I don't get to make that decision. People can get angry and ask people not to let their dog go on their lawn. I just think people who actually get bothered by something so petty and actively seek confrontation for it are miserable individuals. I experience it probably 10x more than most people since my neighborhood is a dog one(Which is great because most dog owners are pleasant) and unless they aren't cleaning up after themselves then it is not a big deal.
You could actually read my post where I said my dog pretty much only goes on my lawn. You seem to have misunderstood that I'm saying owners let their dog shit and piss on lawn frequently every day..
So anyone can put whatever they want in it? I know you do it, but you don't even stop to consider that maybe it's inconsiderate if people are saying it bothers them?
Sorry, I know that these are full time street cans. The poop is bagged, so it's attracting fewer pests than the wet, unbagged food waste that does leave residue in the can.
I think we've both stated our positions, and obviously we disagree. I'll leave you with the friendly advice to put signage on your cans/yard, so that your neighbors are at least aware of your position.