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Young Justice Outsiders (S3) |OT| We're Whelmed For the Return (Jan 4, DC Universe)
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Continue to be really happy with this season, though my boy Nightwing being so prominent plays a part in that. Like how the outsiders are coming together, also wondering how this fake schism is gonna blow up in everyone's faces
Also, feels like Halo gets killed every week
Also, feels like Halo gets killed every week
I love the fact the light had already considered killing everyone's children but realized that it would likely lead to their own destruction as well, It really shows how dark this show is, same for how Vandal treated his daughter
Damn, some good stuff about Savage, and I completely forgot that the VA for him in the previous seasons died. :( New VA is doing a great job.
I assume the comics explain what happened to him in more detail.
He got captured at the end of season 2, unless they broke him out, he should be behind bars.
Finished episodes 7 and 8. Two very different episodes but both great. I was not at all expecting the ending to episode 8. As for episode 7
Now to finish episode 9.
has Vandal Savage ever been pushed like this before. He's pretty much the series big bad and a huge threat now it seems to the point that damn Darkseid is treating him as a near equal!
I doubt it, this is Weisman doing Xanatos to the furtherest extreme he can push.
Great reference, Xanatos is definitely a precursor to Vandal. Though Xanatos wanted immortality Vandal is trying to work his way out of a deal with the devil.
Atlantis is an actual country and not just a city in YJ.
Orm tried to take it over by inciting racial tensions between the "pure humans" and the more fishy people like the mermaids and Lagann's race, his Oceanmaster persona was a blatant KKK parallel in the tie in comics.
He deserved what he got.
For some reason I didn't get a notification for this! Thank you! I'll have to tune in soon.Shiva is a safe guess.
It's an easy way to indicate that it's a slavic nation.
Oh yeah I nearly forgot, Pau
Episode 10, on the 25th.
Hey, I thought it was funny because Orm barely had any relevancy in the entire series.
To be honest, that's a lot of characters in this series.
The way it tells it's story is really unique. It has no problem setting up some kind of narrative hook, either plot or character and....just dropping it. Like, the first episode of the entire series opens with several members of the justice league fighting their ice villains. Batman notes that it's an absurd coincidence that ice villains from all over would attack all at once, so there must be something more to it. We never heard of this plot thread again.
It does this with so many things. Like the romance between Zatana and Dick? Well, we see them work up to it, but at some points between the series, they broke up. Dick is implied to have a few girlfriends, including barbara, but they since broke up with him. Come season 3, he's back together with Barbara. Or like Superboy's relationship with superman, it's set up as them having problems, then the start of season 2 it's implied they made up some ground, and ever since then it hasn't really been acknowledged how Superman and Superboy see each other. Or how the light changes it's members each season.
And in most other series, this would be a huge weakness where the story feel schizophrenic and frayed and incomplete. But here, it doesn't. It's more like it feels like this DC universe is so big and has so many things happening that all we can really get is brief glimpses of the story's everyone is leading, but don't actually get to see them. It honestly feels like Weisman wrote the universe as though it was able to follow an entire season focusing on any given character, but since we only have one season, we only get these snatches of story here and there.
Hence we have stuff like Ocean Master. He went from being a cain and abel type brother who hides his resentment from Aquaman and a had a seat at the table of the Light, who has huge plans in the works, to us being told that sometime between then and season 3, he was outed, had some kind of great battle with aquaman, was thrown in jail and left to rot, only to come back for another new plot, only for it to be cut short by shiva, who somehow ended up being the lights new enforcer. If someone wants to call that anticlimactic, I don't blame them I guess, but the entire series just has this atmosphere that any time we have a single episode that focus' on maybe 3 characters or plotlines developing, there are 30 character and 30 plotlines being developed offscreen. It's cool because it makes this DC universe feel alive by having this stuff be so normalized that Ocean Master's fall from grace nothing more than a footnote and not even worthy of an episode, even though that episode would probably be pretty cool to see.
I like this post, but this part is incorrect. Later in season 1 there's a whole episode where they follow up on that plot thread where it turns out that the ice villains were all trying to end up in prison together for a meta human prison break
It's very possible you're correct, since it was a long time ago (Like, back when Season 1 and 2 aired), but I hope my larger point remains. It just feels like this world has so much going on that it can only give us glimpses of plotpoints at a time.
Edit: I looked it up, because it was bugging me what actually happened. Turns out, the light wanted them all in Belle Reve because they wanted to pull off that country wide snow storm while keeping their involvement hidden. The funny thing is, in the episode, the League suspects it was the 5 ice villains, but Hugo Strange, who they believe is just a normal psychologist, says they were in their cells. I guess the viewer is meant to pick up that Hugo is bullshitting since we know he's a villain, but as far as I think Batman knows, he never found out what happened, unless we just assume that Batman figured out Hugo's real personality sometime between.
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He's right about the ice villains plot and you're right with your larger point. From what i've read of Weisman over the years, especially him occasionally answering fan questions on his own website, he seems to meticulously plot out entire character and story arcs for everyone/everything, even if they happen offscreen, which makes the Young Justice universe feel very lived in.
I'm loving the new Season, but I'm having a very hard time actually seeing who is who. With a lot of characters outside the suits, I found it hard to remember everyone. I had to look up who the pregnant woman was (Bumblebee). Also doesn't help with all the Harper clones running around.
Also, "You got a baby in there"
Also, "You got a baby in there"
Yup yup. And yeah, I do think you're larger point still stands. The universe feels very lived in. Just look at the heroes. There's like 5 different teams all just kind of doing their own thing, and while we do get glimpses of what some of the teams are up to, we're only really focused on one of the teams. There's always just a bunch of different stories going on in the background and it makes the world of the show feel real
Can we all agree Season 3 Young Justice has both the greatest and the worst end credits of all time?
I love how to showcase the fact thet they can get away with a but more than they could at CN, they now kill Halo every week in a bloody fashion. She can't die, might as well makenuse of thay, eh. I love it in any case. Forager continues being Forager, which is enough for his character. The vandal savage exposition episode was nice to see, considering how in E-16 its looking like he gas a much bugger role.
What a delight to discover this show. This has quickly become one of my favorite representations of an entire superhero universe. The comment above about how it uses skipping-over-stories to imply that there is more going on in the world is so dead on. It really makes the world feel deep and lived in.
I think the individual shows have just gotten better and better, and the whole thing is pretty great. The credits scene on 9 was just amazing.
Just caught up. This season has been fantastic on all fronts. Every episode brings something different to the table and the world building is amazing.
I just started watching the commentaries and Artemis' voice actor naturally sounds like her
Oh no
cant just post this with no link
It can't really just /get resolved/, it sets the stage for this entire season in both subtle and overt ways.
Another good week, but definitely the weakest batch so far. Vandal Savage focus was great. Main Man's fight scene was killer. The show is so brutal, but yeah it is becoming a running joke with Halo's deaths. Episode 8 was okay but it went too far away from the core characters and I don't really care for Batfamily fan service.
