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Young Justice Outsiders (S3) |OT| We're Whelmed For the Return (Jan 4, DC Universe)

Oct 27, 2017
Eh, screw the complaints about this, I love this trope. The light is one of the few villains that actually earns the claim of arch enemies, and it makes the conflicts more complex because victory and defeats aren't a binary. The Heroes can stop the light from wreaking direct havok AND the light can still get what it wants out of it.

If anything, it's kind of a smart in terms of a genre sense sort of way. It's like the Light knows it can't get away with huge large scale destruction plans, because if they somehow did, then that would escalate their threat level and heroes would come after them way harder. But if they are just advancing in small ways, the heroes would have an easier time stopping them. So they take the "Why not both?" option where they either use the large scale destruction plans they know will be stopped as a distraction while they do the actually useful stuff, or else they just plan around the loss so that they gain some other opportunity for it.

It makes them actually difficult to stop in a more interesting way than the more straightforward planning would. The only thing that's actually lost is the viewer satisfaction of the heroes having a total victory over the bad guys, which is a small loss imo. And it makes episodes like Summit when they actually ARE all stopped in every way possible funner.

So I wholeheartedly approve of every villain being Xanatos.
I don’t think it was as much of complaint as it was funny pointing this out.
Oct 25, 2017
I don’t think it was as much of complaint as it was funny pointing this out.
I know some people who had a legit problem with it, but if so, then yeah, excuse the (perhaps overly) defensiveness.

I just love this trope a lot and don't want to see people talk bad about it
Oct 25, 2017
Somewhat related, but I started reading the Justice Society of America series that ran through much of the 2000s, and it is cool to see Artemis aka Tigress there, though appearing as a villain! Think it was a nice idea to modify the character and gave her a big role in YJ.

Oct 25, 2017
show is firing on all cylinders - what a treat it is every week

artemis still the GOAT and i'm glad she remains a point of focus in the series
How far we've come since the "who cares about this mystery arrow girl" days,
Honestly Cass Cain, Nightwing, etc I obviously like and care to see more by default but Artemis is easily my favorite part of this series.
'Tigress" identity has won me over as well.
Oct 31, 2017
Wait, people had issues with the Light back in the day? I thought that was always the best part. I love how they already know what they will gain by losing something, and I am pretty sure Lex already accounted for the League to have splinter cells. I can see him going for the whole, they need even more regulations, because look at them now, acting all vigilate and illegal because we set some rules for them.
Oct 25, 2017
There are a heap of references and character name-checks it's very hard to keep up.

Followed Greg W since the Gargoyles days, happy for him that this series is doing so well. What's with the Invasion/Outsiders subheading though? I've never understood the need for them.

Also liking the quiet, solemn end credits. Dynamic Music Partners are woefully under-appreciated still, they are knocking it out of the park as always.