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Young woman harassed to the point of police intervention for asking Bernie Sanders a tough question about sexual harassment.
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I see Bernie Sanders is already being painted as the actual victim of this woman getting harassed good good.. yes yes let's make this about the DNC and shit.
A pattern of relevant and tough questions asked of a primary candidate oh noooo
Y'all better grow some thicker skin and leave the past behind cause this primary season ain't going to be pretty.
And for anyone pretending like what I've been talking about is nonsense.
Mission Accomplished.
Mission Accomplished.
Cheebo you need to post the Young Turks video in OP, please. Many of us, myself including, haven't seen it, and it is germane to this topic.
You are misconstruing what I said, or simply missing the point.
How are The Young Turks equivalent to Breitbart News, an organization that regularly dehumanizes, and excuses or even advocates violence towards, minorities and women?
The analogy is without any sort of value. Criticism is valid. Baseless analogies, on the other hand, don't add anything to the discussion.
You are misconstruing what I said, or simply missing the point.
How are The Young Turks equivalent to Breitbart News, an organization that regularly dehumanizes, and excuses or even advocates violence towards, minorities and women?
The analogy is without any sort of value. Criticism is valid. Baseless analogies, on the other hand, don't add anything to the discussion.
So a question of about something that was literally in the news a month ago about Bernie's campaign is a pattern?
Are you seriously going down that gamergater route to excuse wehat is happening here.
Also I love that merely interning at a lobby group (interns are not power brokers) while being a university student in DC now makes you not a normal person
No a pattern of CNN not disclosing the true professions of multiple people asking questions.
Read above. And pleas keep trying to make the gamergate thing stick.
Is anyone in this thread saying it's okay to harrass these people?
I wrote a whole post about the differences there in the primary thread
In DC of all places!
Are we supposed to be scandalized that a politically active college student in DC is interning at a lobbying group?
The fuck you think she's doing?
The goal of this thread is to demean his supporters and push the "Bernie Bro" narrative while conveniently forgetting to mention that there are bad actors on all side not just Bernie's.
I'm not sure why the term isn't banned yet.
Frankly if you don't disclose the complete employment history of every college student at these townhalls you're basically fake news tbh
Internship is not a profession. Her "profession" was college student.
Making excuses and shifting to CNN instead of the woman's harassment is making excuses and/or condoning it.
Shifting to "CNN's Ethics' when discussing her harassment is litealy textbook Gamergater strategy.
You might not see it, but it was literally what occured when women in the game's industry were getting harassment and death threats.
Only those who are assuming they know someone's true motivations based on little evidence.
Good catch.
Because the audience was stacked with people in politics and it looked bad. I mean, I could ask you the same thing - Why didn't they state the people's actual jobs?
And yet he is still wildly outpacing in donations in raw dollars and the number of recurring donations... proof is in the pudding. You are expressing a feeling about a political instinct rather than what is actually happening.
Could someone who denies the Armenian genocide ever have a good look?
Ya'll can barely lift a finger in this thread to acknowledge the harassment and you want me to feel bad because you think you're being maligned?
It's the kind of thing Alex Jones would home in on, I think.
I see how you dodged the fact that she was not the only one misrepresented by CNN.
It's naive folly, at best, and disingenuous, at worst, to pretend commentary about a group of people isn't meant to impart judgment to the larger group of people in the specific instance when there's an unwillingness to qualify one's commentary and, on top of that, a defensiveness about the need to do so.
The thread is getting its intended responses:
The bolded reveals the intent behind defensiveness over a need to qualify language: it's a thinly-veiled dodge around personal attacks to put forth the association without making it directly. It's not nearly as clever a rhetorical trick as people think, but it's effective all the same.
You heard it hear folks Bernie supporters are like Alex Jones and infowars now. SMH
And yet again I'm not talking about donations but his actual competition that he will be facing and how he is no longer unique as he used to be and how that can rankle the worst elements that support him to the point they lash out.
This occurred in the primary thread as well.
Now the strategy is to de-humanize her, she isn't a normal American, she is a dirty intern in DC.
are you seriously going to defend the rherotic about labeling her not a normal American as something that isn't right wing rhetoric?
Politics in the age of the internet and social media have become dangerous.
This story is the kind of thing that makes me not want to get involved politically outside of showing up on election day and voting.
Free speech, like asking tough questions of political candidates shouldn't be met with threats of violence. That's the antithesis of free speech. It's problematic that platform that gives people a medium for free speech (social media) has been weaponized into a tool to stifel and threaten free speech, effectively shutting it down.
This story is the kind of thing that makes me not want to get involved politically outside of showing up on election day and voting.
Free speech, like asking tough questions of political candidates shouldn't be met with threats of violence. That's the antithesis of free speech. It's problematic that platform that gives people a medium for free speech (social media) has been weaponized into a tool to stifel and threaten free speech, effectively shutting it down.
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I'm sorry we're talking about the doxxing and harassment of a college student, not the lax journalistic practices of CNN which allowed (checks notes) difficult questions to be asked of Bernie Sanders.
I have written multiple lengthy posts about this and no one is exonerating the harassers because they ARE bad actors.
What should also be stressed, which the OP did not, is that it's absolutely unfair to paint Bernie supporters with the same brush.
Yeah I'm sure it's not relevant at all. And "former biology teacher" is an accurate description of the current chair of the Baltimore County Democratic Party.
I agree, so asking me the same thing is irrelevant. Why was the audience stacked with people in politics?
Nah, I personally have no interest in what CNN or the Young Turks did because I have no interest in getting my news from audio-visual media. Harassing this woman was wrong. I think everyone in this thread is pretty clearly on that side. It's incredibly unclear to how people are getting anywhere else on the subject from this conversation.
"Bernie Bro" is a dogwhistle at this point
I mean don't you just assume every former teacher is a political player?
You can blame both harassers and CNN for not doing their due diligence.
It... absolutely is? If they are a former biology teacher?
What relevance does their current political activity have to the questions being asked?
And pretty much all politics of all time have a history of mistreating women. Maybe you should focus on the real victim here and here's a wee clue for you: it's not Bernie.
I don't really get what's wrong with people affiliated with the Democratic party asking tough questions of a Democratic candidate. Would the outrage be more or less if they were serving him up alley oops? Is this like 2016 where anything Democrats did to inconvenience Bernie was framed as corruption and election rigging while he was competing in an election against other democrats?
Don't forget Breitbart!
Posters put forth these faulty analogies and it doesn't really say much except about the person making the analogy.
No TYT just wanted to know what their real motivations were so that they could dismiss the questions out of hand
A separation between the political class and the working class is NOT a right wing talking point. I don't know what to tell you if that is a foreign concept to you.
It's because the dnc (not the party) has a history with antagonizing Bernie.
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