I don't see why it has to be a joke. I think about past sociology as incredibly relevant to today.
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Young woman harassed to the point of police intervention for asking Bernie Sanders a tough question about sexual harassment.
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I only get my podcast news from Left, Right, and Center, because I want balanced news and the center is a good place to be.
So TYT really didn't help the harassers find out her social media after all. Town Hall was the 25th, video was made on the 26th.
What as opposed to any corporate media entity? I think the young turks is a pretty sensationalist show for the most part, they get things wrong all the time, but they co-fund a lot of great smaller left wing channels like the majority report. To put them on the same level as people like Alex Jones and even warmongers like CNN is absurd to me.
Sanders is going to have to run his campaign like a front-runner, which he is. Shit like this doesn't help him. I'm glad dude came out against this behavior by supporters, and even here regarding this specific incident. TYT has supported him for a long time and has generally been an asset but this appears to be irresponsible reporting, at least.
I'm watching Powered Egg's clip and it's not a live segment? Was the information dug up during the live segment or was it aired during the live segment? I haven't seen anything that directly links the TYT segment to the doxxing. Which is how you opened your topic here. Even if you aren't willing to link directly to the video, a secondhand source that supported your claim would have made for a better topic, one that had the appearance of good faith.
I'm watching Powered Egg's clip and it's not a live segment? Was the information dug up during the live segment or was it aired during the live segment? I haven't seen anything that directly links the TYT segment to the doxxing. Which is how you opened your topic here. Even if you aren't willing to link directly to the video, a secondhand source that supported your claim would have made for a better topic, one that had the appearance of good faith.
Not really. They had a livestream running in tandem:
You are confused.
The Powdered Egg clip references a live segment that is no longer available to view, or at the very least I haven't found yet.
And that's bullshit. Nobody should support a candidate who fully embraces what is essentially the Brietbart of the left for their own political gains. If people honestly think that TYT are out here putting out extremely divisive leftist news in order to spread the good work of social democrats and aren't just creating this content to fill their wallets off the backs of their devotional fanbase, then they should have no problem with far right wing candidates using Brietbart to get into political positions either.
It's the same damn thing, TYT don't care about what's actually best for the country, nor do they care about the wellbeing of people who disagree with them, Democrat or Republican. They've helped create this toxic view that Democrats are lesser than the Left, and that the Left should be angry at Democrats all the time, and that working with anyone who isn't full on socialist isn't worth pursuing. They're feeding a dangerous and toxic line of thinking to people who gobble it up and give them money for it. And all they're concerned about is continuing that money flow for their own purposes and gains.
Please don't rely on Dan Carlin as your source for historical knowledge
They covered it live, then did a live TYT news cast. All of their videos are of live news casts usually when they are at that desk with the monitors in the back like that. They have non live clips like What the Flick, Damage Report, Think Tank, something the Ana person does, but a lot of their stuff is from their daily live streams. The coverage of Bernie's Town hall would have been them commentating and are usually for TYT members only. The next day where this clip is from is their daily normal live reporting and segments, which right after on the same day they chop up into individual videos like the video in question.
So what proof is there that the TYT segment led those people to harass her that day "soon after" the town hall? (First time I'm even wondering if it was really the TYT segment that caused all this in the first place) During their live coverage of things I doubt they start looking in the the history and real jobs of people that ask questions. I don't doubt the TYT live where they made this a segment brought attention to her though. Seeing how they seem to regurgitate news and give their opinions on it, maybe there was other sources that caused them to want to talk about it themselves. Who broke the news that she worked at the firm first, were they also revealing her social media?
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You're being disingenuous again. They didn't actually ask Bernie tough questions for the most part - I thought the questions were fairly sympathetic and led him to talking points he wanted to discuss. Whoever harassed that girl didn't do it because she attacked Bernie - they harassed her because they're assholes. And they did it after CNN posted her name, photo, and the university she attends. TYT didn't doxx her, and she wasn't combative with Bernie.
If you want to attack Bernie and his supporters and TYT, that's fine go ahead. But using this story doesn't work because you need to stretch the truth and obfuscate to reach the conclusion you're trying to paint.
The 341k in local government would be for the District itself, not the federal government.
Although a percentage are, I don't think that the majority of the 960k are related to federal lobbying either. I don't see any data to back it up, just your speculation. I think many of those connected people would choose to live outside of DC itself in plush neighborhoods, too. Just because they are in that link you shared doesn't mean they are DC residents.
The Young Turks did that? That's messed up. Was a fan of them for a while
More or less how I feel. They're interesting, can be a bit much, but I wouldn't put them on the Alex Jones insanity level at all. Needless to say, probably wont be watching them anymore.
More or less how I feel. They're interesting, can be a bit much, but I wouldn't put them on the Alex Jones insanity level at all. Needless to say, probably wont be watching them anymore.
There's a huge difference between corporate entities like the NYTimes, WaPo, or NPR and extremist entities like TYT.
TYT have a huge, damaging bias that infects all of the organizations they help or fund.
I think this topic should be plenty of evidence that this isn't how it will play out...
Being the Frontrunner in early 2019 for the 2020 election means nothing.
This is a marathon, not a sprint.
It's not like this is the first time CNN has done this, remember this gem from last year?
https://www.resetera.com/threads/bu...-kavanaugh-are-actually-gop-operatives.70735/
The narrative this time seems to be fairly different since it's the left that benefits 🤷🏻♂️
Harassment bad, pretending party officials are regular citizens bad, Bernie mostly bad. There doesn't always have to be a good side and a bad side in every scenario all sides can be bad!
https://www.resetera.com/threads/bu...-kavanaugh-are-actually-gop-operatives.70735/
The narrative this time seems to be fairly different since it's the left that benefits 🤷🏻♂️
Harassment bad, pretending party officials are regular citizens bad, Bernie mostly bad. There doesn't always have to be a good side and a bad side in every scenario all sides can be bad!
Quick to judge. I don't, I see you are banned but not against Hardcore History as condensing of pop history.
Damn y'all, ready to jump down anyone's throats.
I'd say it's more on the online Democratic community. The groups I know irl aren't dealing with these conflicts at all (so far...).
Which tbf the Sanders4Pres subreddit has come out against this, which is relevant considering one of the said doxxing images came from there.
If we adopt this line of thinking, yes.
The candidates are going to focus on the policy issues and so should their supporters.
It's a CNN political town hall in DC. The audience is not going to be random. It is going to be attracting politically minded people in the metro area with the highest % of politically minded people in the country.
Mostly false, I think. Party elites are making their decisions now regarding which campaign to endorse, who to work for, who to advocate for, which campaigns to fund (obviously it won't be Bernie's but they could refrain from funding other challengers if they think they have no shot).
But sure. Bernie might not win. But he's in the catbird seat.
I really dont see why this conversation is mainly about TYT, CNN put these people out there, the information was dug up by others before TYT picked it up and they reported on it using public information that was either relevant to the story or available in the town hall. I saw this shit on the Chapo subreddit shortly after the debate. Is there an argument that citing public facebook profiles in reporting as going too far I guess theres an argument. Is there an argument that this sort of media criticism serves no use? I disagree.
This is correct. TYT is shady bottom of the barrel-tier among left podcasts.
Pod save america's quite boring though.
Because "CNN is bad and this is a pattern of bad behavior we've seen from them before" is an opinion that's not controversial or disputed. The problems are coming with behavior online towards the people who didn't pick the CNN chyrons and also with some of the examples being criticized not actually being a problem and instead being an example of conspiratorial thinking. A college student who did 1 internship at a lobbying firm is still a college student and labelling them as such is completely appropriate.
But labelling a democratic chairwoman as a former teacher is not. And they did that too.
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She is an INTERN while in college. Claiming she isn't a "regular citizen" and a "party officials" is victim blaming and just plain wrong.
She's an intern while studying at a DC College, why are you acting like that makes her a fucking political operative.
And what do you mean Bad
Thank you. That is the conversation, not the specific questions. Exactly what I meant by what is the line.
And yet it;s the intern college student who is being harassed hmmm.
If it was just one college student, that would be fine. Understandable mistake. But CNN repeatedly presented the questioners as regular townhall attendees (student, mother, former biology professor) in order to hide their roles as active political operatives. The whole point of the format of a townhall is to allow regular citizens outside of the halls of politics to ask the questions that matter to them. That's not what CNN did here, even if the questions tended to be favorable to Bernie's message overall.
It was also used to slur minorities and women for supporting Bernie in the primary. It was a blanket insult.
I made a thread about the CNN thing but it got closed. They weren't all women. The guy who was "a community leader" was a county chair for the DNC. Why did it make any sense for them not to disclose that relevant bit of information?
The questioners with the title shuffling were all randomly PoC/women though too, which kind of seems as if they were picked to ask him stuff because of the narrative or whatever of Bernie not being understanding to their groups. It just seems to me like it wasn't a random occurrence
This is exactly what is happening, but those that dislike Bernie are going to bring up the Bros and see what they want to see out of this story. TYT put out information on a lot of questioners but the only one getting harrassed to hell and back is coincidentally Arab or Muslim, a woman, and brought up a woman's rights issue. The question wasn't even tough and Wolf n Bernie answered it properly. The usual woman-hating culprits online are behind this harrassment, not Sanders supporters.
Correct. I was saying there were marginal criticisms that are bad along with the legit one, not that they were all bad.
They are regular citizens! The problem is that holding a town hall in DC is gonna self-select the audience to be politically active people because it's DC.
It's like complaining you have all college students if you hold a town hall at a college.
None of the explains why she is getting harassed to the point of getting the police involved.
First, local government includes politics and their staff. Second here's how I know the majority of that 960k is from the lobbying industry:
There are only 640k residents of DC. Which is to say 341k of them are employed by local government. Which is to say the vast majority of people in DC are out of towners, likely lobbyists or congressional staff. And even then the majority of residents are local government employees, to say nothing of how many are federal careerists.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Washington,_D.C.
Well she had to call the police so I'd say she's probably not.
Probably won't be as encouraged to engage in politics either in the future
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