A separation between the political class and the working class is NOT a right wing talking point. I don't know what to tell you if that is a foreign concept to you.
That's fine but it's not the point of the criticism here - the point is that CNN should have disclosed their political affiliations.I don't really get what's wrong with people affiliated with the Democratic party asking tough questions of a Democratic candidate. Would the outrage be more or less if they were serving him up alley oops? Is this like 2016 where anything Democrats did to inconvenience Bernie was framed as corruption and election rigging while he was competing in an election against other democrats?
The same TYT that even said the questions were good?No TYT just wanted to know what their real motivations were so that they could dismiss the questions out of hand
WOWWhat relevance does their current political activity have to the questions being asked?
I have written multiple lengthy posts about this and no one is exonerating the harassers because they ARE bad actors.
What should also be stressed, which the OP did not, is that it's absolutely unfair to paint Bernie supporters with the same brush.
Only if you reveal their phone number, email, or home address. Otherwise it's just harassment, which is still bad, but relatively not as harmful.
They shouldnt have postes her facebook profile when they know what their fanbase is like.The same TYT that even said the questions were good?
Come. The. Fuck. On.
They were literally only lambasting CNN for their lack of transparency
It... absolutely is? If they are a former biology teacher?
What relevance does their current political activity have to the questions being asked?
They shouldnt have postes her facebook profile when they know what their fanbase is like.
TYT is an embarassment
There is nothing wrong with it other than the fact that CNN intentionally veiled the political identities of these people so as to not make it obvious what their political intent was (if there one).I don't really get what's wrong with people affiliated with the Democratic party asking tough questions of a Democratic candidate. Would the outrage be more or less if they were serving him up alley oops? Is this like 2016 where anything Democrats did to inconvenience Bernie was framed as corruption and election rigging while he was competing in an election against other democrats?
Hm, I wonder why people might be suspicious of a town hall stacked with people working in politics? And then ultra suspicious when you hide the fact?
"Oh she's a lobbyist? Well I guess we know the REAL reason she asked about sexual harassment!"
uhh, is it because she's a young woman who wants to get into politics?
Hm, I wonder why people might be suspicious of a town hall stacked with people working in politics? And then ultra suspicious when you hide the fact?
Yes, some people will draw that conclusion. Others will draw different ones. What's the harm in being as transparent as possible about it?"Oh she's chair of the baltimore democratic party? I guess we know who paid her to be here!"
I ask again: why do you think there were so many people involved in politics in a Town Hall taking place in Washington D.C.?Hm, I wonder why people might be suspicious of a town hall stacked with people working in politics? And then ultra suspicious when you hide the fact?
So, consider this, would you have believed them if they told you their jobs without evidence?
Hm, I wonder why people might be suspicious of a town hall stacked with people working in politics? And then ultra suspicious when you hide the fact?
I ask again: why do you think there were so many people involved in politics were in a Town Hall taking place in Washington D.C.?
And she's not a lobbyist
She's a fucking college student who like probably does glorified mail room type work
You are being naive. There is nothing wrong with asking tough questions about sexual harassment. There is everything wrong with a news network lying by omission or misrepresentation.This thread makes me so sad. Like, oh are we going to get through a primary when we have a whole bunch of women running and now somehow cant ask questions who had very distinct sexual harassment problems in the past.
There are no bad actors here, everyone involved right now is politically active in someway and other candidates and the DNC should be asking hard questions of candidates that is how we get the strongest candidate.
Consider this? Her job isnt relevant to the questionSo, consider this, would you have believed them if they told you their jobs without evidence?
I don't think anyone is disagreeing that what happened to the woman is wrong. It's the usual sexist, racist, garbage people that always perpetuate this nonsense.
What people are disagreeing with is the OP omitting context and placing the blame on TYT. This is the format of what the TYT video shows:
- A clip of the CNN question which shows the name of the person who asked the question, and their job description. All of this provided by CNN.
- A image from TYT clarifying what the actual job of the person is.
For example:
CNN: Name of the person - "Community Organizer"
TYT: Name of the person - "Founder and CEO of a PR Firm"
CNN: Name of the person - "former bio teacher"
TYT: Name of the person - "Chair of the Baltimore County Democratic Party"
Not to mention TYT continuously mention that all these questions are still fair and the people who asked the questions are the not the problem, the misleading descriptions from CNN are.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/20...-decriminalizing-sex-work.91234/post-18427522
It seems like many people think the harassment is a totally separate thing than what CNN was doing trying to cover up their affiliatins, so maybe we do need a new thread for that.
Someone in DC intenring in politics attending a town hall is suspicious?
This thread is an embarassment to this forum. I haven't seen this many excuses for harassment since the height of gamergate.
all your asses are really showing here. You don't give a fuck about any of these women. You just want to score political points against Bernie and TYT
If you really cared about women's safety you wouldn't need to lie, twist facts and constantly argue in bad faith.
Lol I legit wish the DNC was as powerful and influential as y'all claim.The DNC has a history of actions in bad faith towards Bernie
See: 2016
You got that part 100all your asses are really showing here. You don't give a fuck about any of these women. You just want to score political points against Bernie and TYT
If you really cared about women's safety you wouldn't need to lie, twist facts and constantly argue in bad faith.
No. The people that pretend to be concerned about the harassment. But sure keep proving my point.Ah yes, the people concerned about harassment are the true bad guys
https://www.resetera.com/threads/20...-decriminalizing-sex-work.91234/post-18427522
I think we all condemned the harassers. Thing is, you wouldn't know that if you let the 2-3 "Bernie Bros" dog whistlers here frame the issue.
I am not posting the video of her being doxxed.Cheebo you need to post the Young Turks video in OP, please. Many of us, myself including, haven't seen it, and it is germane to this topic.
You are misconstruing what I said, or simply missing the point.
How are The Young Turks equivalent to Breitbart News, an organization that regularly dehumanizes, and excuses or even advocates violence towards, minorities and women?
The analogy is without any sort of value. Criticism is valid. Baseless analogies, on the other hand, don't add anything to the discussion.
What is a DNC member? Do you mean someone who works for the Democratic Party?ERA is the first place to tell you that DC is majority black, poor and disenfranchised but when a DC town hall is packed to the gills with DNC members and lobbyists suddenly the tune changes to "Oh well why are we surprised that people in DC are involved in politics?"
Right on cue
Is anyone saying it's okay to harass people? Please point me to them so I can condemn that sentiment.
That information literally doesnt matter, she is a huge political operative in the area she lives in, her not asking questions would be weird.You are being naive. There is nothing wrong with asking tough questions about sexual harassment. There is everything wrong with a news network lying by omission or misrepresentation.
No one, not even TYT which this thread is about, is arguing that the questions are unfair. They are very fair questions that should be asked.If the content of the questions was relevant and necessary, yes I do wonder why people would instead question the motivations of the people asking the questions.
Blame the OP for being shitty and trying to use her harrasment as a prop to push his pet narrative.Fuck, why the hell has this thread turned Bernie into the real victim instead of the poor women who had the "audacity" to dare ask a question about sexual harassment???
I'm from Northern Ireland, I don't give a fuck who gets the DNC primary, I'm not even sure what this is, I do give a fuck about this forum downplaying harassment towards women. Your post is offensive and demeaning towards the women in this thread that are hurt by this.all your asses are really showing here. You don't give a fuck about any of these women. You just want to score political points against Bernie and TYT
If you really cared about women's safety you wouldn't need to lie, twist facts and constantly argue in bad faith.
No CLEARLY the fact that she interns for a lobbying group in DC means this is a politically motivated hit job.
Especially since she gets paid (checks notes) 0 dollars a month!
You heard it hear folks Bernie supporters are like Alex Jones and infowars now. SMH
No one, not even TYT which this thread is about, is arguing that the questions are unfair. They are very fair questions that should be asked.
We should also be asking why CNN hid the fact that these people are involved in politics and involved so many of them in the first place. That is not an unfair question, and doesn't run against the fact that tough questions are, of course, fair. And in this instance in particular it is a fair question. The video talks about multiple people, not all that posed tough questions to Bernie.