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"You're nothing": Joe Biden rape victim comes forward in brave audio interview [up: she filed a criminal complaint]
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I'm only talking about ideology. I think it would be more fair for Biden's delegates to back a more moderate progressive rather than Bernie, because Biden's voters specifically rejected Bernie. You're free to disagree with that.
I'm just pulling names like Kerry and Klob outta my ass and that's all anyone is responding to. It could be anyone. I'll throw out one more name so folks can focus on it and ignore the rest of my post, like they've been doing: Michelle Obama.
I believe they need time to investigate. None have, so far.
Dude couldn't be any more transparent. Must be nice believing that things cannot ever be better.
That's not the only thing you're pulling out of your ass - the claim that Biden's voters "specifically rejected" Bernie is so outrageous that you cannot possibly be serious.
When I voted for Bernie in the 2016 primary and then Hillary in the general, was I "specifically rejecting" Hillary? No? OK then!
Stop repeating anti-Sanders talking points, they're usually this intellectually bankrupt and they exist first and foremost just to get under people's skin.
Damn. This sounds like some kind of last second gaslighting tactic.
One on hand you're telling women you don't care if they're sexually assualted if you vote for Biden, but if you don't you're telling minorities and LGBT+ that you don't care about their rights should Trump win and pack the SC. Assuming Biden gets the nomination of course. Really wish Warren didn't drop out.
What I'm trying to say here is that what you consider a compromise candidate seems wildly divergent of what most polling indicates most Democratic voters might consider an amenable replacement to Biden, should he drop out. By those metrics, the compromise candidate looks a lot more like Bernie than any of the Democratic Party's available centrist functionaries.
when the person in 1st drops out, who do we give it to?
the person in 2nd, who at one point was the front runner, remains highly mathematically viable, and seems to have won the primary at least on a policy level of polls are anything to go by?
or perhaps we should give it to Elizabeth Warren, Amy Klobuchar, or John Kerry (who didn't run but who cares they all did about as well)
So we have to choose between a rapist and a rapist?
Goodness, I can actually hear Biden say those things. The way it's written is the way he actually speaks, like when he realizes what he did and tries to "console" her is the way he consoles other people.
Horrible she had to go through that...
Horrible she had to go through that...
Fuck this guy. I've never liked him since those videos of him man handling women and girls came about. I am not shocked at all that he is a rapist.
What the fuck are we supposed to do here though? I need a realistic answer because if we get another 4 years of Trump, the Supreme Court is going to have a super majority that will fuck this place up even worse (oh yes, America can get much worse than it already is) for generations to come.
At this point the only answer I can come up with is to vote for Biden based on the fact we would get good Supreme Court picks. That baring some miracle and Bernie wins the nom or Biden and Trump both die of coronavirus.
What the fuck are we supposed to do here though? I need a realistic answer because if we get another 4 years of Trump, the Supreme Court is going to have a super majority that will fuck this place up even worse (oh yes, America can get much worse than it already is) for generations to come.
At this point the only answer I can come up with is to vote for Biden based on the fact we would get good Supreme Court picks. That baring some miracle and Bernie wins the nom or Biden and Trump both die of coronavirus.
Vote down ballot in the hopes to wrest control of the supreme court away from the repubs. Feel free to leave the president vote blank if Biden is the nominee.
Yeah. Literally the part when he freaks out, and first start to blame her, then to quickly switch and try to gaslight her, was what made the narration feel real.
Again, right now, this is a she says/he says situation.
But if the accusation is real, there is a trail left to be tracked. Including the formal complain (and Biden staffers, from back then).
Honestly, let Warren have it if it goes down to that, as a compromise. Anything is better than Trump or Biden.
if we're gonna keep bringing up losers to run in the general, at least make it entertaining. bring hillary back. make 2020 an extended grudge match between the clinton janissaries and the trump pepes. if we're gonna do hellworld, do it the right way.
The amount of news stations covering this is sadly the most expected thing to come out of this.
Hopefully the interview she does tomorrow will become unavoidable.
You're really trying to suggest rape apology/brushing off is something new to politics? And using Hillary as an example of all things. Edit: I see you already answered this.
And yeah Obama had to be squeaky clean (in comparison I'm not saying he's perfect). He was black. He'd been tarred and feathered if he wasn't.
Biden currently has only 1100 of the 1900 delegates he needs to win the nomination. There are over 1700 remaining delegates to be allocated in upcoming state primaries.
If the Democratic voters in the remaining primaries vote give those states to Biden, I think that's a pretty clear signal that the Democratic voting base doesn't mind having a rapist as president.
If those voters vote mostly for Sanders, Sanders will win the nom outright. If the voters vote for anyone except Biden or Sanders, we'll have a contested convention where the delegates will be able to come to a consensus pick.
It's not November yet. Let's not give up all hope.
If Biden drops out, the responsible thing to do would probably be to do a mail-in or online re-vote to give them a chance to choose a new candidate. Keep everyone else who was on the original ballot available. Yes, this is just going to be functionally the same as passing the nomination to Bernie, but letting people actually have their vote count is important.
We're probably going to need to arrange a mail-in or online voting for the entire rest of the electoral process anyway, so no reason the states that already voted shouldn't be included.
We're probably going to need to arrange a mail-in or online voting for the entire rest of the electoral process anyway, so no reason the states that already voted shouldn't be included.
At that point they might as well give it to Sanders. Warren polls worse against Trump in a head to head than both Biden and Sanders and that is not accounting for the reality bias against female candidates. She'd get slaughtered in swing states.
If we're going to lose might as well let Sanders take the L so his cohort can have their wish, because we'll get 4 more years of Trump and probably a made for reality TV Ivanka or Don Jr.! 2024 GOP primary to follow.
What part of the rest of the world?
The UK is currently being led by round Trump and had the initial plan of speed running COVID, trading "a few pensioners" for market protection.
France directly drug NATO into Libya just a few years ago.
Germany is dicking around with ventilators and masks being sent into Italy.
Russia is an oligarchy.
China is too, just masquerading as communist.
Japanese candidates can't get elected if they're honest about WWII crimes.
South Korea had insane ass political scandals just a couple years ago.
Brazil is led by as insane a person as Trump.
Canada is mostly normal I guess, but then you have a major province which includes the largest metro area being ran by Doug Ford, a coke head who doesn't understand how money works and who leads, I shit you not, the "Ontario Progressive Conservative Party".
Maybe humans just fucking suck?
Fuck, I forgot all about that. Him being like, the only non-idiot on COVID bought him some selective memory (like its probably doing across Canada right now).
So QED I guess?
For what it's worth, I voted for the Liberals in the last Canadian federal election despite the fact that I also wanted Justin Trudeau, the leader of the party, to resign the very next day because of his objectionable conduct. He's actually done a decent job thus far in his 2nd term but a good number of other people in that party could have done the same.
Now the difference there is that I was voting for a member of parliament for whom their success was also ensuring Trudeau would remain as prime minister. I wasn't voting for Trudeau directly. And I honestly can't say that I would have been able to last fall because I wasn't faced with that choice.
But one thing I WAS compelled to vote for was the only viable option that wouldn't lead to a more reprehensible outcome. Namely Andrew Scheer being prime minister. Which would have been a disaster. In much the same way that Donald Trump as president is a disaster. And if I was in the United States, I'd be hard-pressed to think of anyone the Democrats could put up as their nominee - no matter how reprehensible a human being and even if I wished for them to die of a heart attack the second after they won - that would deter me from backing them over Donald John Trump.
If you read this woman's account it literally starts with Joe Biden grabbing her pussy. Then he raped her and told her she was nothing.
I think it's probably slightly worse when the perpetrator himself is on tape BRAGGING about having done it multiple times
But honestly, I really hate having to decide which of these 2 rapists is less bad
It's pretty clear that 70-80% of the party doesn't want him, so force-feeding him will likely result in the same thing that happened to Hillary.
Always vote for the person who raped...less? :( Fuck
As far as I can see, it has not been vetted yet. Give it some time for news organizations to investigate.
Ill hold judgement than....but if there is truth here....We are getting Trump again...I dont want to see that orange man another 4 years
Is there any respected journalist covering this? PBS, BBC, AP? It's bothering me that it's showing up on sites like The Intercept.
With something this explosive, no "respectable" network or newspaper is gonna comment on this until they can corroborate things independently.
And just like that, any talk of Trump's sexual indiscretions (AKA being a serial assaulter/rapist), is going to be immediately countered with this towards Biden, and he'll deserve it because if these allegations are true Biden shouldn't be on the ticket or even be in politics at all. But if this is vetted and determined to be less than credible, it's still going to be hammered home and talked about constantly in the media. We are heading into an electoral disaster.
Well you see they reported on the Obama drone strike program and you saw how that turned out to be a whole lot of noth-- excuse me, I'm getting confirmation that it was actually a whole lot of much things.
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