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Regardless of what happens with these allegations and whether or not it actually impacts Biden's path to the nomination (which I'm not hopeful about unfortunately, seems like we're stuck with him), people have to realize just how much of a liability this is going to be in the general. The GOP can latch on to this story literally whenever they want, and just play clips like you've posted to start a spin narrative because this has always looked really bad and has the potential to absolutely convince people just not to vote. The GOP's game is suppression and depression, and this just seems like a massive red flag for Democrats going forward.

We'll see how this shapes up today and in the coming days, there's a good chance (again, unfortunately) it will just get buried under the massive wall to wall coverage of COVID-19 and everything else happening, but this is the sort of thing that genuinely has a chance to absolutely sink Biden (and I suspect a lot of more progressive and young voters already disillusioned with Biden might already see this as the last straw for someone they were only going to begrudgingly support as a whole).


You're right, but be prepared to be called a Russian bot.
 

meowdi gras

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Me personally, I think context matters. Biden's behavior in a personal setting with friends has been described, by those who's photos have been used to paint him in a negative light, as a positive personal moment (such as the photos of him with Stephanie Carter).

Biden doing what is in the above gifs with young kids for photo ops isn't a massive departure in physical act but, in my opinion, frequently crosses the line on appropriate behavior towards a minor that isn't your own child.

The claim made by Ms. Reade prior to yesterday is, by contemporary definition, actual sexual harassment with civil court merit to back it up. I'd be interested to see what kind of investigative work journalists did regarding those late 2019 allegations.

Power dynamics matter on topics like what kind of touching/physical space is appropriate. A lot of similar actions from Biden but in different contexts they all carry dramatically different meanings.

You know what doesn't require relevant context? Fucking rape. So lets not act like these are remotely comparable accusations.
None of Biden's behavior in the posted gifs requires "context", as you put it, for sussing out whether or not it's repulsive or sexually predatory. All it requires is eyes to see: the man is and has always been a POS, dangerous menace to women and girls. I said so on this forum over a year ago when these gifs and appending accusations first came to light as a whole, and called for the Democratic Party to force him out as a candidate.

This tedious pettifogging over what precisely constitutes sexual "harassment" and what doesn't is not helpful in any respect to his victims, and frankly leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. Particularly when it is done in a thread recounting the experience of a woman this monster fucking raped.
 

Jegriva

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Couldn't this news come out 1 year ago? 6 months ago?

I do not think this was pre-planned, at all, but gosh if she picked a bad moment...
 

Crimsonskies

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What's disturbing is that many of profiled people who supported the METOO movement is pretty quiet about it or are ignoring the allegations completely.

These are not conservatives but my fellow liberals I find that outrageous, I mean look at Alyssa Milanos tweet.

 

Jegriva

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....there is never a bad moment for a victim of sexual assault to come forward.
except at this point it might cause a generation of conservative SCOTUS with many backward steps against abortion, same-sex marriage, refugee's right, family separation, etc... ?

There are definitely better and worse moments for news to come out. And she came forward in 1993, AFAIK, it 's just the media system that picked her allegation now.
 
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except at this point it might cause a generation of conservative SCOTUS with many backward steps against abortion, same-sex marriage, refugee's right, family separation, etc... ?

There are definitely better and worse moments for news to come out. And she came forward in 1993, AFAIK, it 's just the media system that picked her allegation now.
You should be ashamed.
 

Lentic

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except at this point it might cause a generation of conservative SCOTUS with many backward steps against abortion, same-sex marriage, refugee's right, family separation, etc... ?

There are definitely better and worse moments for news to come out. And she came forward in 1993, AFAIK, it 's just the media system that picked her allegation now.
This is just victim blaming.

And no, it was her that went on a radio/podcast show to give her account. The media hasn't picked this up yet.
 
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except at this point it might cause a generation of conservative SCOTUS with many backward steps against abortion, same-sex marriage, refugee's right, family separation, etc... ?

There are definitely better and worse moments for news to come out. And she came forward in 1993, AFAIK, it 's just the media system that picked her allegation now.

Sounds like she tried to go recently to Time's Up for help instead of the media and they declined to assist her. How long ago was this?
 

Jegriva

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There is absolutely no missing the clear and obvious to responding to "there is never a bad time to report sexual assault" by then making a list of reasons why it is bad.
Ok, I write apples and you read oranjes, congratulations.

Somebody (not the victim) has had this information for 27 years, and decided to keep in the fridge. That's an horrifying thought.
 
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I really wish the media ran with this back in Jan/Feb, at this point I'm not sure who at the DNC is willing to touch this and it seems like most prominent dems are too chickenshit/distracted by corona to even mention this.
 

turtle553

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Couldn't this news come out 1 year ago? 6 months ago?

I do not think this was pre-planned, at all, but gosh if she picked a bad moment...

There's an article from last April where she talks about inappropriate touching, like shoulder rubs. But just yesterday comes the part about more explicit sexual abuse.
 

OSHAN

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I'm not even seeing this on Drudge. Before I get slammed, I'm not dismissing the allegations, I'm just not familiar with the Intercept, and I feel Drudge picks this stuff up all the time. Why isn't this getting any traction? It's been 48 hours, which is a lifetime in the news.
 

TripaSeca

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Can he be still called moderate? I mean, he clearly does not show any moderation towards women.
This deposition must be taken very seriously. Let's hope it does.
 
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I also would be. It's wrong. We can't be that party.

I'm worried that we're going to be dissapointed

That's actually not how the rules work. If Biden were to drop out, his delegates would not just become Bernie's delegates, and a candidates needs a majority of delegates to win, not just a plurality.

Oh I absolutely understand that.

In a perfect world the DNC would think we have a chance with Bernie and try to make it work. Believe me I'm quite ready for Biden to be told to drop out from the DNC and then they basically anoint someone like Cuomo or even Bloomberg, to keep all of the non-progressives happy.
 

RockGun90

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What's disturbing is that many of profiled people who supported the METOO movement is pretty quiet about it or are ignoring the allegations completely.

These are not conservatives but my fellow liberals I find that outrageous, I mean look at Alyssa Milanos tweet.


Alyssa in general has always been very vapid and only somewhat interested in this election cycle. Back when the primary started, she was trying to start some movement where no one would criticize any Of the nominees. You know, the whole point of a primary.
 

Serpens007

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What's disturbing is that many of profiled people who supported the METOO movement is pretty quiet about it or are ignoring the allegations completely.

These are not conservatives but my fellow liberals I find that outrageous, I mean look at Alyssa Milanos tweet.



When they support a sexual predator just because of being afraid of socialism you know there is something wrong with liberals.

Fuck Biden. Darkest timeline for the US
 

Stooge

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I'm not even seeing this on Drudge. Before I get slammed, I'm not dismissing the allegations, I'm just not familiar with the Intercept, and I feel Drudge picks this stuff up all the time. Why isn't this getting any traction? It's been 48 hours, which is a lifetime in the news.

They should be calling and verifying basic facts. Read Catch and Kill or listen to the podcast.
 

Sendero

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... think I've seen this before but now in this context... THIS is your democrat candidate, USA??
There are several like those, including one clip (that is rare to find in most compilations) where you can clearly see he is nigh fondling the breast of a young girl.

And believe it or not, the vast majority of the electorate have not seen any of this.

Biden is by far, the weakest competitor of all the candidates against Trump. The most damning attacks, are normally the visual evidence. And there is tons of that available. The ads basically write itselves.
 
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Josh378

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If Biden had to drop if allegations are correct, then would Bernie win the Primary? I mean this is Alabama all over again if true.
 
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I really wish the media ran with this back in Jan/Feb, at this point I'm not sure who at the DNC is willing to touch this and it seems like most prominent dems are too chickenshit/distracted by corona to even mention this.
there is a chance still for voters to reverse the horrible situation of putting to rapists against each other in the general election

the more attention this gets right now, the higher the chance to prevent that dark scenario
 

Dever

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With the constant gaffes, the general lack of enthusiasm and now this, it's looking to be a pretty painful and embarrassing loss for the Dems in November.
 
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Disgusted by the number of people here and all over the internet downplaying and dismissing this because of the circumstances of the accused who would be tripping over themselves with fury if it were about anyone else.
 

Znazzy

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If Biden had to drop if allegations are correct, then would Bernie win the Primary? I mean this is Alabama all over again if true.
1.) Biden isn't dropping
2.) In some alternate timeline where he did, Bernie still wouldn't win the nomination. Biden's delegates would go somewhere else, and it most likely wouldn't be Bernie.
 

airbagged_

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I'm saddened that in this political climate, this may not affect Biden like the "Grab her by the p*ssy" didn't really affect Trump. My heart goes out to the victim and having to hold on to this story for so long.
 

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I'm saddened that in this political climate, this may not affect Biden like the "Grab her by the p*ssy" didn't really affect Trump. My heart goes out to the victim and having to hold on to this story for so long.

The difference is, part of Biden's appeal is his character, Trump was always known as being the playboy billionaire piece of shit that's why it didn't move the needle for him
 

airbagged_

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The difference is, part of Biden's appeal is his character, Trump was always known as being the playboy billionaire piece of shit that's why it didn't move the needle for him

Maybe so. I've been pretty withdrawn from Biden's antics because he's coming off like a robot that's breaking down and I feel kind of bad punching down on someone who clearly is losing it and I've been distracted with my own things going on. This is still really heartbreaking to read (from the victim's perspective)
 

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This heartbreaking video, and yesterday's audio clip, is going to get a lot of play in the general election by Trump and his surrogates, and the allegations against Trump himself will not blunt the attack. Biden should step down or at least address it now. The timing is far better now than in September or October. If this man is the nominee the Democratic Party is juggling a live grenade.
 

TheZynster

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The DNC really want to ride with this man as their head?

Watch Bernie go independent and fuck this whole election up.....Biden needs to resign
 

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This should be thread marked.

Her story reminds me a lot of watching the leaving Neverland accusers in the real emotional and lasting effects sexual assault leaves on victims. I believe her.

Also, people need to watch this video till the end because she also talks about the damage that can be done online.

I've seen a lot of people post things about her in an effort to silence or bury her story or even suggest that she is a Russian plant, here on ERA.

Words matter and it's been infuriating to watch people attack or suppress her based on political allegiance.

You all are not slick.
 

SENPAIatLARGE

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except at this point it might cause a generation of conservative SCOTUS with many backward steps against abortion, same-sex marriage, refugee's right, family separation, etc... ?

There are definitely better and worse moments for news to come out. And she came forward in 1993, AFAIK, it 's just the media system that picked her allegation now.
Yeah, she would let her rapist get the nomination for the greater good. FOH with that noise.
 

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The DNC really want to ride with this man as their head?

Watch Bernie go independent and fuck this whole election up.....Biden needs to resign

Trump will bring this up and most Americans won't see the irony, but instead still say "Biden is your typical corrupt deep state politician trump talks about"
 

Instro

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This really sucks. I shouldn't have to ignore this shit and vote for the guy, but that's what it's going to be unless the DNC steps in because Trump and Co is so fucking awful.
 
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