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"You're nothing": Joe Biden rape victim comes forward in brave audio interview [up: she filed a criminal complaint]
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yea, it's totally the medias fault that Biden is a creep
what's funny is that the media at large coddles the fuck out of him
do better
Like this?
Eww, they look fucking terrified to be next to him.
Biden needs to drop out, and we need to at least give Bernie the shot he deserves. I'm not confident he'll be a slam dunk win, but I think come debate time he'll absolutely clobber.
I do not think Trump, of all people, can hammer him for this specific point. Biden should still drop out. Can Elizabeth Warren drop in again?
Trump, and conservatives, don't care. Every accusation they make is projection anyway.
This. They contradict themselves every day and don't ever give a shit. If he tells his base to bark (or Fox News does it for him), they will bark.
Like this?
these are so hard to watch. huge red flags for this guy since day 1 and yet the whole fucking system mobilized behind him. what a depressing fucking mess.
trump is exactly the person to hammer this point. his base doesn't give a shit about his accusations. He will repeat it over and over and over and rile up his crowd and Fox News. Give me a break
He's also a rare specimen in Washington as a male who rose to this level of influence/power without being a disgusting creep or rapist.
He 100% deserves the nom, but we all already know that.
Trump says all manner of things without a shred of self awareness or shame. Part of the idea of chosing a candidate to go against Trump was to at least have our own legs to stand on when attacking him for his own indiscretion. Now all of that is off the table, because many things that Joe should attack Trump for can now be dismissed by Trump with "No, U."
Again, this is an extremely damning indictment of the US political system.
Not a single person on the debate stage this last year, including Sanders, came after Joe for his history of inappropriate touching. None of them are willing to risk their careers to call a spade a spade. He's a powerful, well-connected politician, and many of them even consider themselves Joe's friend outside of the debate stage. Voters saw this footage and tried to rationalize it.
Turns out predators and political power go hand in hand.
Find another strawman, that's not what I wrote, and you know it.
Everything about this Biden reveal is scummy (not that we didn't already know he was at least a big creep), but the one silver lining is the sliver of hope it gives me that he fears he can't weather this and will drop out.
i don't expect a response unless all major media picks it up, but seems like they won't.
He won't drop out. I already hear the ripples of this is fake, and where is the proof?
I need to cling to hope for something right now lol. And I have almost zero hope Biden can beat Trump, even without taking these accusations into account.
No, but I bet his aides are freaking out to make sure this story stays away from the mainstream media.
My guess is he's hoping the coronavirus situation overshadows the allegations long enough for them to become a non-issue. The problem with that is the Republicans can make it an issue any fucking time. I personally think he's a liability at this point and Republicans can ensure he loses to Trump whenever they want by just amplifying these allegations especially if combined with the videos of him touching kids in strange ways.
I would really like to know the answer to this because Biden cannot become the nom. He shouldn't have even made it this far in the first place. Disgusting.
Campaigns are suspended, so people can rejoin. It doesn't matter this late though.
Also, not the place for primary talk.
i could straight out see trump calling Biden a rapist in the debates
This is gonna be similar to Northam/Trudeau's recent controversies where Biden will catch some shit from this but it'll peter out because the electorate doesn't like the implications of punishing him for it.
I think sexually forcing oneself on to a woman is going to be received a bit differently than putting on black/brown face for a costume. Not that the latter is excusable, but the former is a whole different degree of bad given the context.
Oh don't worry, they don't even have to. Big outlets are ignoring this for now, but they absolutely plan to cover it to death when the general comes.
I don't know what he'll say but he will prolly mention the allegations in some form and link them to the creepy videos with Joe and kids. Aka "creepy Joe Biden or creepy Uncle Joe", some shit like that.
Like the other poster said, the Republicans if smart won't mention it and let Biden secure the primary. Then they just hammer it in the GE.
The Democrats can try to say but look at Trump, but that don't hold the same weight cause Trump's base has proven they don't really give AF about that.
Republicans will just aim to inject enough doubt and outrage to encourage more Democrats to not vote. And they only need to make it stick in some states.
You underestimate how pervasive the defense of rapists is in America. For a long of people, things change when the accused is someone they see as on their side.
But the latters opponent is a multi time rapist who is on the record saying "Grab em by the pussy" and has forced multiple victims of his into signing NDAs. The guy you quoted is right, people hate Trump and are going to vote for Biden regardless of anything just as they did in 2016 with Trump out of their hate for Clinton.
Ever since Trump was nominated, Democrats have taken these sorts of allegations seriously, which was reinforced by cases like Al Franken's, Kavanaugh's, and others caught up in the MeToo movement. If this gets big, it will be a bad, bad look for democrats after the last 4 years of unifying against this kind of behavior. And if they don't address this at all if the story gets big, then it will show that their concern for women's issues was ultimately political opportunism.
People will be fine voting for Biden no doubt if he is the nominee because that will mean the DNC is exonerating him. But if this explodes before the primaries resume, this is going to be a big problem for them.
Biden always struck me as a creep. The story is disgusting. Unfortunately, I don't think it will have much of an impact on his nomination.
Stay losing, Dems.
Stay losing, Dems.
But conservative outlets will run stories about allegations long before they confirm anything. They do it all the time. They care far more about controlling the narrative, muddying the waters and political advantage than any truth. It is very odd to me that they aren't running with this story and the allegations straight away given their gravity and the political advantage it would afford. It seems like something they would hammer the minute it has been revealed. Normally, a story like this would be one of the top stories on the New York Post site. It would be on Fox from 8 o'clock until 11. It isnt even mentioned. It is strange that they aren't all over this yet. It's very out of character.
Are they just holding back until the shadow of the coronavirus recedes?
While I agree that the Political system (much like Police and other institutions) tends to protect its own members, let me comment on the point about the candidates:
It's well known that Sanders camp have tons of talking points against Biden. They allegedly decided to hold off, for 2 reasons: First, because they wanted to use it once the rest of the candidates dropped off (of course, nobody expected how things turned out).
The other main reason, is because Sanders did not want to run a smear campaign. Which make sense, because his focus was on bringing young people, so alienating the political space would be counter productive later. Now, historically, the Left has always been held to a much higher standard, which became pretty clear when Castro attacked Biden. Pointing out his weaknesses and unsuitability actually made the electorate and the moderate Democrats feel like it was an unfair attack, specifically coming from another male.
Multiple annalists argued that Sanders couldn't even defeat Biden. But realistically speaking, if Sanders had gone full scorched Earth, he would had plenty of ammunition to achieve it. But given the conditions of the process, it just became harder by the day. That's why Warren's approach was so incredibly disappointing for me:
She and Biden had bad history for decades. In multiple occasion he fought to thwart Warren's effort to bring accountability to Wall Street. Everyone expected her to run part of her campaign on that. Early on she signalled that, indeed, it would be her approach. But at the end, she decided against it (it's unclear why). So, here we are.
Apologize for derailing the topic, though.
I watched The View today, wondering if their golden child's allegations were going to be brought up.
Nope. Nothing. Not a mention.
Instead the had Newt Gingrich.
Not surprised. They've been pushing for Biden even before he announced he was running.
Nope. Nothing. Not a mention.
Instead the had Newt Gingrich.
Not surprised. They've been pushing for Biden even before he announced he was running.
Exactly.
Trump is always projecting.
And conservatives making fun of Biden for stammering or sloppy answers is rich when you listen to Trump speak. He mispronounces words and often cannot string together sentences. He makes words up. He often fumbles through really basic questions.
Guys, there are journalistic standards at play here.
Like, you should want real news to tap the brakes and confirm stuff before running it. The story can wait 48 hours for them to make sure they have this water tight and can nail the story. Because if they get some tiny detail wrong and run with it that will be pointed to as the "proof" that it isn't real.
They'll be getting things like dates of employment, confirm smaller details (i.e. the cocktail party) with others and come at the story with at least the surrounding facts confirmed and locked down before running this.
She won almost no delegates. If Biden wasn't there it is unlikely his would have gone to her.
I suspect they are doing some fact checking before putting up such an explosive allegation.
If it never makes it ok to air, then odds are they couldn't fact-check it.
Give them to Bernie, have Warren be VP. Boom, election won. We'd fucking crush them. I hate this tip toeing around the obvious to continue propping up a rapist.
Bernie couldn't even win the primaries. How'd he fucking crush anyone?
What exactly does he deserve? He lost one Primary and is just about the lose another one, if Biden doesn't drop out. We need another option besides these two goofs.
You realize Trump has 30 sexual assault allegations, including rape, right?
You misunderstand why anyone voted for Biden in the first place - which is to remove Trump, or return to life when they didn't need to listen/pay attention to Trump(or any president for that matter) squawk every fucking day simply because he's running the country. Nobody was "inspired" by Biden, they just see him as a safe choice.
Add Biden's "safety" vote count to Bernie's voters/base(even if you want to make the argument that not enough Sanders voters turned out), AND Warren's voters/people who want to see an inspiring woman leading the country, and you have a god damned blowout.
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