Yeah you should do that. I also use Like button more now as well.
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YouTube is making dislike private for everyone, will be visible for creators
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I don't mind it, mostly because this gives trolls less power. I've personally found groups online where they organize review bombs, in the form of dislikes or score bombing on websites that allow user scores. It is beyond disgusting and the issue is bigger than you wanting to see if a video is worth watching based on likes or dislikes.
I'd be totally fine with this feature if it was opt-in by creators on a per-video basis. Let corporations or scammers or people dealing with trolls turn them off. People should just be skeptical when they're off, that's all.
Dislikes are absolutely critical to certain video categories, like DIY stuff. If a video about how to perform something is majorly disliked, I'm probably going to read the top comment and learn that this person was about to make me set my house on fire. If dislikes are visible and low, I know it's probably safe. If hiding dislikes were optional, and a DIY video did this, I'd instantly assume it was a video that got disliked for having bad information and I'd just go to the next video.
Dislikes are absolutely critical to certain video categories, like DIY stuff. If a video about how to perform something is majorly disliked, I'm probably going to read the top comment and learn that this person was about to make me set my house on fire. If dislikes are visible and low, I know it's probably safe. If hiding dislikes were optional, and a DIY video did this, I'd instantly assume it was a video that got disliked for having bad information and I'd just go to the next video.
I never realized how often I check for dislikes or compare the likes vs dislike ratio until this last week. There are so many videos of unfamiliar content creators I click on and my first instinct is to see the general reaction, and now all I get is how many likes, and I have to try and guess if that is good for the amount of views it has. I hate this change.
This should have been the compromise
Now seeing this all in action, it feels all wrong. The negatives really outweighs the positives because of this
*sigh*
Just the other day I watched a video about a "race" between a Tesla vs another electric car. Just by seeing how the dislikes was unusually one decimal point away from the likes, I could tell that the Tesla ultimately lost, and had a good laugh at the fanboys getting hurt over a petty thing like that.
Just the other day I watched a video about a "race" between a Tesla vs another electric car. Just by seeing how the dislikes was unusually one decimal point away from the likes, I could tell that the Tesla ultimately lost, and had a good laugh at the fanboys getting hurt over a petty thing like that.
This is a massive blow to educational content on Youtube, and it's completely irresponsible of Youtube to ignore just how important the site is for a) learning b) being able to filter good material from bad. This move does make a service like Nebula make more sense though. Might actually go in on it now.
Notice that it happens soon after a lot of brands started peddling NFTs lul
Agreed.
I saw a couple turn off their comments and got dislike dogpiled because they gave their kids too many christmas presents.
Fanboys review bomb products they don't like or buy.
Right wing groups will bomb opinions they don't like.
Religious groups will bomb gay creators.
Hiding dislikes isn't perfect, but there is a valid reason. There is a lot of trolling, review bombs, and dogpiling going on. The dislike choice is getting abused and used for hate a lot more than it is being beneficial.
there's this I found on reddit
Return YouTube Dislike
An extension that returns dislike statistics to YouTube using a combination of scraped dislike stats and estimates extrapolated from extension user data.
extension for chrome/firefox, won't work for new videos
I still don't see how this addressed that. The creators affected by organized hate will still get dislikes and hateful comments that'll force them to turn off comments and or ignore the dislikes they get.
Dislikes already gone from what I've watched.
I've stopped hitting the like button, feels there's no point anymore.
I've stopped hitting the like button, feels there's no point anymore.
I've never hit like on any videos that I actually liked lol, unless it's a music video or something that I want to go to my liked tabs for easy access again later.
It's cool that it works, but I wouldn't be surprised if Youtube gets rid of this function later on. I remember using an extension to get the old layout back when the new current one came because I liked how it looked and it loaded faster for me plus better use of tabs but then months later Youtube made it so the extension stopped working completely which sucks. I think the same could happen with this one as well.
Think I'm going to download that extension, this was such an annoying, unnecessary change. Curious to see how "accurate" the extension will be once the API is updated though.
Same, haha. Now I'll definitely never click it. The whole system just seems pointless.
I mean, I get why they are probably doing this but it's definitely not without some significant flaws in terms of how people filter through the content they view.
I would know a workaround, but I doubt it would work in practice:
One user (or the creator) writes two comments: "Likes" & "Dislikes".
If users like a video, they should like the "Likes"-comment. If users don't like a video, they should like the "dislike"-comment.
With that, we can compare the likes and dislikes.
Problem is only how to keep the two comments on the top.
One user (or the creator) writes two comments: "Likes" & "Dislikes".
If users like a video, they should like the "Likes"-comment. If users don't like a video, they should like the "dislike"-comment.
With that, we can compare the likes and dislikes.
Problem is only how to keep the two comments on the top.
Creators can pin a comment to the top, so all you would have do is pin the dislikes comment, and have likes go to the video itself. But a bunch of people don't read comments, so they'd put dislikes into the invisible system anyway. It wouldn't be very accurate. And anyone who creates "disliked" videos because they're scam artists or controversy artists wouldn't create a pinned dislike comment.
Reddit - Dive into anything
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I'm not sure what this video is supposed to prove, he keeps talking about yelp reviews and specifically one and five star reviews and how only seeing one side won't give you the entire picture ... yeah, but that's not the same as binary Like/Dislike buttons with no reviews attached.
And his own hairstylist experiment even kinda proves that the one star reviews are pointless, it was a perfectly fine haircut for the price point and clearly not the worst in the city. Of course the five star review isn't really helpful either but all he achieved is telling people why they're both stupid, not why we need them.
I guess reviews dont matter for you, but for example if I see mostly shitty reviews in a movie/game, then i would probably avoid it before risking having a bad time and wasting my time or money.
This is another analogy very similar to what ludwig said, the thumbs down situation is like hiding all bad reviews of a video/movie and only keeping the positive ones.
In a way, the thumbs down acts as a review of sorts, just without the nuance of normal reviews.
This type of scenario has happened to me too. It was so useful before investing any time in a tutorial video.
only look for vid from channels with big subscribers, fuck small creators, oh wait...
Yeah I've been looking up tutorials for a project I've been working on and it really sucks not having the dislikes. Good to see all the backlash, hopefully they reverse their decision.
Lol. But yeah dislikes do count towards engagement so it makes it funnier to hide the number from public viewing.
The uploader could already turn off comments and likes/dislikes, its been a feature for a while.
I mean let non-uploaders (viewers) turn off comments on all videos, regardless of whether the creator enables them. Fullscreening it on mobile is currently the only way to dodge those dumb top comments.
I guess, but to me it doesn't make sense as a feature to add. You can't even see comments unless you scroll down. And it seems like they don't even load on the page until you do scroll down anyway.
Fair enough, I see your point! Anyways, as much as I hope they reverse course on dislikes probably not gonna happen.
Probably worth mentioning that there are extensions out there that can let you see the Dislike Count if you wish. Youtube Enhancer is letting me see the nearly 180k dislikes the Nintendo Switch Online Expansion reveal trailer got.