YouTube shows Polish propaganda commercial

Oct 27, 2017
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has youtube made an offical statement regarding this? I dont see this being picked up anywhere in the media!? what is going on?
 

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The Polish government would have you believe that they are so insecure that they have to enforce a policy that everyone already knows. Anecdotal evidence time: I have worked with Polish people in Katowice for five years and visited there a few times. No one has ever brought this up to me. No one is confused as to who is responsible for the Holocaust. What the fuck is the Polish government trying to accomplish?

Use Ad blocker. Solves the problem or accidently seeing such bull shit.
If you want to support good content creators on YouTube, this is not a good idea.
 

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Well I got it last night. So creepy and dystopian. I also got an "Israel is not an apartheid" commercial like 6 months ago. Seems like Youtube is fine with propaganda.
 

KonradLaw

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The sad thing is that both polish and jewish nationalists have one thing in common - they both pretend Poles and Jews are completely separate groups and you can't be both at the same time. In reality, most jews who died in WWII were Poles and considered themselves as such. Both groups have been living together for thousand of years and you only need jewish mother to be qualify as jew. So both groups mixed heavily. Today like 75% of jews worldwide have some polish blood and most of Poles have some jewish one. Using modern repatriation law most of Israel would be safely able to demand the right of return to Poland.

In fact, it would make for spectacular tv show. Take some boneheaded polish nationalists youth and run DNA test, then reveal it to him live on the air. The reactions to having both jewish and persian (since slavs bassicaly were born as mix of persian and germanic tribes) would be priceless
 

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There was a mix of resistance and collaboration in Poland (though favoring resistance throughout if only because the Germans were intent on slaughtering and enslaving the Poles, just that it was a lower priority than the Jews and never picked up steam to the same level), and Poles did take advantage of the expropriation of Jewish property although the lion's share of what was looted went to the Germans.
 

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The Polish government would have you believe that they are so insecure that they have to enforce a policy that everyone already knows. Anecdotal evidence time: I have worked with Polish people in Katowice for five years and visited there a few times. No one has ever brought this up to me. No one is confused as to who is responsible for the Holocaust. What the fuck is the Polish government trying to accomplish?
Nothing. At least foreign policy wise. This goverment specializes in using foreign policies solely for internal purposes. So they play around with polish voters despite the fact that they are destroying Poland's international reputation and position. Remember, this is the goverment that voted against the entire EU (inclusing Hungary) to not renew Donald Tusk (a Pole, just from different party) job as EU president and then suffered through humiliating 27:1 vote.

This newest diseaster has really awful reason. This goverment tolerates fascists. They're small group, but they're still loud and could boost you by couple percent. Those idiots even made a art performance on the streets when they hanged the photos of opposition's EU parliment members and police ignored it. But they could be tolerated while not being openly nazis. Unfortunatelly for them one of tv stations infiltrated their group and it turns out they had forest gatherings to celebrate Hitler's birthdays. The populace went crazy with anger to a degree that finally caused the goverment to start prosecuting those idiots and start talking about delegalizing the groups they're members off. But then the nationalists started crying it's a betrayal. So bassicaly this entire mess is attempt to appease the small groups of idiots.
Yes, you've read that right, Poland fucked up it's friendship with Israel and damanged relationship with USA solely so that goverment could appease small local group.
 

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do poles have so little going on that this is what the govt spends its effort on? why not make commercials about something cool instead, like pierogi
 

DavidDesu

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Lol I looked at this page then went on YouTube about 30 minutes later. Guess what was the first ad I got. FFS, I really just wish we could have an internet that couldn’t track you and serve you ads.

As for this, I’d really rather not see propaganda from countries being able to serve me ads. They should jst be disallowed in general. Fuck that shit. Can’t wait to see some pro Israel bullshit ad now...
 

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Even stupid people think "Polish death camps" means Nazi death camps in Poland. Ironically the logical end point of this dumb campaign would be to dilute the memory of polish suffering and resistance. All to solve a problem that doesn't exist.
 

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It's been mildly amusing watching our right wing goverment duke it out with Israeli right wing government, but seeing what they're doing now one can't help but feel embarassed. This whole law was not only badly worded, but has now blew up right in the faces. Or maybe it is truly some long term strategy to cash in on our wounded national pride.

However, I don't agree with your assesment of 'polish death camps' or 'polish concentration camps' being only a geographical term, OP. It's a fucked up shorthand.
 

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Do Americans have anything to do other than tweet at Fox & Friends and eat KFC?
Government != people.
There’s clear false equivalency coming from you. Sure, Trump is trash, but at least he is not running ads whitewashing US history. I’d like to believe that the US would be able to resist this kind of level of propaganda.
 

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There’s clear false equivalency coming from you. Sure, Trump is trash, but at least he is not running ads whitewashing US history. I’d like to believe that the US would be able to resist this kind of level of propaganda.
But he is running ads like that. If not personally, his cronies at Fox do. Something to do with Confederacy generals monuments, AFAIR.
Also, do you think Poles do not :rolleyes: at ads like that?
 

Poppy

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i meant it more as a rhetorical question that implies the polish government is wasting their time being morons

ours surely does as well of course
 

Knurek

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i meant it more as a rhetorical question that implies the polish government is wasting their time being morons
Honestly, I'd rather have them waste their time being morons.
That means they don't have time for dismantling democracy, which is, like, their other favorite pasttime.
 

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Yeah I saw one a couple of hours ago on a conan clip.

Really odd, I thought it was DLC for Wolfenstein at first then to end with GERMAN DEATH CAMPS, i was like WTF.
 

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Holy shit, is that what #GermanDeathCamps is about?? There's another forum I go to where this dude has had a sig for like over a year now with "Right side of History" and "#GermanDeathCamps" in it, and I never bothered to look further into it and just assumed it was some anti-holocaust denier shit. Turns out it's pretty much the exact opposite.

Excuse me, I need to PM some admins somewhere else.
 

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Not surprising at all.

I watched one Jordan Petersen class lecture and now all I'm getting in the way of ads are the dipshits at Prager U.

Ugh, fucking Prager U. I have to deal with that one a lot because people think it's videos put out by an actual university.

Spoilers to anyone else: Prager U is a right wing propaganda media company
 
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Nobody refers to Ramstein Air Force Base as a German base. Nobody refers to Guantanamo Bay as a Cuban base. So it is especially absurd to refer to Polish death camps especially during a time period where Poland is an outright conquered and partitioned state.

I also think it's silly to outlaw a phrase but hey, that's the kind of thing that is generally supported around here when people say something wrong or offensive, right? Misgender someone, it's hate speech, someone call the police. Deny the Holocaust, you should go to jail!
 

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Even stupid people think "Polish death camps" means Nazi death camps in Poland. Ironically the logical end point of this dumb campaign would be to dilute the memory of polish suffering and resistance. All to solve a problem that doesn't exist.
Is Donald Tusk stupid as well?

He was very upset when Obama used polish death camps so this problem does exist.

Comey, the FBI director used German and Poland together and had to say he regretted it.

“I regret linking Germany and Poland because Poland was invaded and occupied by Germany. The Polish state bears no responsibility for the horrors imposed by the Nazis. I wish I had not used any other country names because my point was a universal one about human nature.”

As time goes on and the information of WWII narrows, young people only learning very little, Poland don't want to be casually lumped in with Germany or deemed as collaborators.
 

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Nobody refers to Ramstein Air Force Base as a German base. Nobody refers to Guantanamo Bay as a Cuban base. So it is especially absurd to refer to Polish death camps especially during a time period where Poland is an outright conquered and partitioned state.

I also think it's silly to outlaw a phrase but hey, that's the kind of thing that is generally supported around here when people say something wrong or offensive, right? Misgender someone, it's hate speech, someone call the police. Deny the Holocaust, you should go to jail!
Isn't it weird that the same people who think saying "polish death camps" is inaccurate are also the same people who are upset that they can't spread hate speech?

Sure is strange isn't it? They also seem to be the types of people who conflate laws with message board rules.
 

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I think countries that suffered under Nazi occupations are perfectly well aware that the Germans were behind the holocaust and that the machinations of the final solution stretched across the breadth of the Third Reich. Nobody is under the delusion that someone deported from Holland, France or Croatia would be handed over to the Polish authorities once the Nazis got them off the train.

Young kids learning about the holocaust through the story of Anne Frank understand this just fine. I'm at a total loss who the Polish government is trying to educate here.

Yeah, I mean there was a concentration camp in France too and we spend a lot time covering ww2 at school. Don’t know what that poster was talking about.
 

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Yeah I've been getting both that and the Turkish ads claiming to explain why they're fighting the KPG. I didn't get Adblocker out of feeling the need to support the channels I like with the extra ad revenue but even that is now pointless.

The world needs a sharp training course in media awareness and how propaganda works. Fast.
 

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Isn't it weird that the same people who think saying "polish death camps" is inaccurate are also the same people who are upset that they can't spread hate speech?

Sure is strange isn't it? They also seem to be the types of people who conflate laws with message board rules.
Dude's post history has a lot of redpill/PUA language, and spends a lot of time 'devils advocate'ing in the threads you'd expect right ringers to do so in. Tired old ass Rush Limbaugh script pearl clutching.
 

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Because the US government rolled over and died rather than adequately punish social media platforms and the russian government itself after russias successful initiative, why wouldn't other propoganda arms take advantage?

Germany has come a long way, even if there are still elements of the old regime its no more than other developed nations with a white majority.

Germany doesn't deserve this. focus on Nazi's.

Not Germany.
 

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What the fuck youtube, are they so fucking cheap and incompetent that they can't proof watch all these ads???
I fucking miss Blip.tv
 

JonnyDBrit

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Yeah uh, been getting these ads and the Turkey one of late. It's... bizarre to see such brazen propaganda on my feed like that.
 
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Actually, it sounds like you're reading from a tired ass script
Oh wait. Of course. A script. That's what I'm doing. Boy that sounds like I'm arguing in really bad faith.
Isn't it weird that the same people who think saying "polish death camps" is inaccurate are also the same people who are upset that they can't spread hate speech?

Sure is strange isn't it? They also seem to be the types of people who conflate laws with message board rules.
Defending free speech in general is not about protecting hate speech. And what pray tell did I conflate? What did I say about message board rules? I compared the Polish law to hate speech laws and found them both absurd for similar reasons.
 

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I also think it's silly to outlaw a phrase but hey, that's the kind of thing that is generally supported around here when people say something wrong or offensive, right? Misgender someone, it's hate speech, someone call the police. Deny the Holocaust, you should go to jail!
Either provide evidence for the things you're claiming or go away.
 

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A lot of advertisers must have fled during the ad-pocalypse and logan Paul controversies that they're now openly selling propaganda ads on the service.
 

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Oh wait. Of course. A script. That's what I'm doing. Boy that sounds like I'm arguing in really bad faith.

Defending free speech in general is not about protecting hate speech. And what pray tell did I conflate? What did I say about message board rules? I compared the Polish law to hate speech laws and found them both absurd for similar reasons.
Yes, and that reason of yours is extremely apparent.
 

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Oh wait. Of course. A script. That's what I'm doing. Boy that sounds like I'm arguing in really bad faith.

Defending free speech in general is not about protecting hate speech. And what pray tell did I conflate? What did I say about message board rules? I compared the Polish law to hate speech laws and found them both absurd for similar reasons.
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of hate speech laws if you think these are comparable in any way.
 
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Why is poland pushing for xenophobic policies. Do they have a migrant issue?
Not really, they have a problem regarding resettlement of migrants/refugee.
They also have a lack of workers but they prefer
Which is pretty funny because migrants would probably leave as soon as settled there to go to Germany or Scandinavia as it happens a when a few migrants got sent to Bulgaria.

Also there is a huge political fight with Germany about North Stream 2 (ie a pipeline that would go from Russia to Germany bypassing Poland) and Poland is scared that this would be a premise to a Russian invasion of Baltic countries, Sweden and Poland.
 

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Nothing. At least foreign policy wise. This goverment specializes in using foreign policies solely for internal purposes. So they play around with polish voters despite the fact that they are destroying Poland's international reputation and position. Remember, this is the goverment that voted against the entire EU (inclusing Hungary) to not renew Donald Tusk (a Pole, just from different party) job as EU president and then suffered through humiliating 27:1 vote.

This newest diseaster has really awful reason. This goverment tolerates fascists. They're small group, but they're still loud and could boost you by couple percent. Those idiots even made a art performance on the streets when they hanged the photos of opposition's EU parliment members and police ignored it. But they could be tolerated while not being openly nazis. Unfortunatelly for them one of tv stations infiltrated their group and it turns out they had forest gatherings to celebrate Hitler's birthdays. The populace went crazy with anger to a degree that finally caused the goverment to start prosecuting those idiots and start talking about delegalizing the groups they're members off. But then the nationalists started crying it's a betrayal. So bassicaly this entire mess is attempt to appease the small groups of idiots.
Yes, you've read that right, Poland fucked up it's friendship with Israel and damanged relationship with USA solely so that goverment could appease small local group.

amazing how its the same shit across the world fuckin corrupt politician selling there souls just to keep there seat for a little longer.
 

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YouTube really needs to get its act together. It is on a very pivotal and vulnerable moment where all the pr is against them and one competent competitor can take away their entire business model from under them.

Amazon and Apple are primed for a competitor for this
 
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