I don't think I've seen any of these people here in Bangkok, but I don't hang out at Khao San Road or any other farang haunts. Maybe Vern has seen them?
Programs like "Pekín Express" didn't helped much. I remember some people addicted to them and how wonderful would be to live an "adventure" like that without money on those countries. As if it was a super-normal thing to do ¬¬When I was in Peru I saw a few groups of different nationalities doing this. But the ones that stood out were a group of girls from Spain. Nice bags and clothes. Busking on the street with a sign talking about how they had run out of money etc. And got to talking and flirting with me and my brother to try and get our help etc. Needless to say I didn't have all that much sympathy.
I'm a little confused by this, surely if you're only consuming food/paying for shelter/ buying whatever, you're still paying into the economy of the place you're in.https://qz.com/quartzy/1192690/begpackers-the-trend-of-westerners-traveling-without-money/
Add this to your post op, I think this should give ya some better context.
Bottom line
This isn't like refugee or coming for work, this is asking for special treatment because you need to see the world or some shits
Most asians (like myself) will know about this because this is prevalent in asia...i.e. young white millenials travel to asia (Thailand, Malaysia, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore) with barely any money and attempts to beg in the host country just to fund their travelling budget.
Suffice to say....most asians (like myself) are not amused.
Yup, this is what first came to mind. I don't think they are such a problem if they respect property, clean up their trash and after their dog and do something other than beg. At least play some music. There are plenty all over lower Manhattan in the summer and in brooklyn who just sit outside a busy Starbucks and beg with their cardboard sign.Reminds me a lot of the trust fund crust punks I'd see begging all over the city.
Why single out white ones? I'm pretty sure there are beg packers who aren't white as well.
Well he was right. The idea that only white people are doing this is beyond stupid and pointing it out has nothing to do with insecurity. You just had an pointless image and have now wasted 3 minutes of my life with your insane mentality. What a waste of time and I realized that this will only derail the topic.
I think he's saying that it might not be just white people doing this, rather than not all white people. But I mean, the latter is an obvious. Why get so offended?
OT personal opinion but I can't stand these "I'm going travelling to find myself" which is probably in the same vein as these people.
Yup, this is what first came to mind. I don't think they are such a problem if they respect property, clean up their trash and after their dog and do something other than beg. At least play some music. There are plenty all over lower Manhattan in the summer and in brooklyn who just sit outside a busy Starbucks and beg with their cardboard sign.
Interesting.
When I landed in Berlin, the immigration guy never asked to see a return ticket. I also ran into backpackers with zero return ticket because they weren't sure when they would return.
I think it depends on your country of origin. If you're coming from a poorer country, then I think they're more likely to flag you as an immigration risk.
But since I was coming from the USA, maybe they didn't bother.
It's so baffling that people want to do this though especially in countries where even just 1000 euro will go a looooong way if you're cheap. Just save up a bit at home and then fly? Well, I guess if it works people will still do it. I'm guessing it's very likely most of them do have that 1000 euro they just want it to last even longer.
The fragility on display across mere 2 pages is just baffling.
"go to image" is pulled from the video, way to expose your own ass with a post LMAOThese shitty go to images and one off replies hoping to shut down discussion and paint people as "privileged snowflakes" in one go can fuck off.
A Facebook friend of mine often posts updates on begpackers he sees on the streets of Seoul. Meanwhile I've never seen any in Japan. Maybe the police in Korea just don't give a shit whereas the Japanese ones are itching for something to do (so long as it doesn't involve going after corruption)
Thread title is practically begging for someone to wonder why its being so specific.
"go to image" is pulled from the video, way to expose your own ass with a post LMAO
That's why I avoid those places. I'd be tempted to spit on these fools if I saw them. They're an embarrassment, like most farang here.Yeah, I've seen them on the street of Bangkok, pathetic. I worked across the street from Phatpong, they're not common, but I wouldn't say they are rare.
I had a recommended video show up on youtube a couple of days ago "day 1 in Dubai without money" or something like that. Thought it was weird.
Just a side note:That's why I avoid those places. I'd be tempted to spit on these fools if I saw them. They're an embarrassment, like most farang here.
white people are secret genies, if you give them enough money good things will come to youI don't really get why people give these morons anything to begin with.
Just a side note:
What's with some cultures and this absolutely baffling practice of using a different language term to describe foreigners when conversing in English?
It doesn't add anything, does it?
The only purpose I can think of is to increase the othering in a statement, which seems like a bad thing
Dude, what does #notallwhitepeople have to do with what the guy was asking?
Gringo confirmed.Just a side note:
What's with some cultures and this absolutely baffling practice of using a different language term to describe foreigners when conversing in English?
It doesn't add anything, does it?
The only purpose I can think of is to increase the othering in a statement, which seems like a bad thing
This post is 100% correct. The implication of singling out white beg-packers is that you think it's OK if non-white people do it.White privilege might be a big factor in the demographic of these beg-packers since I'd imagine minorities would feel significantly less safe engaging in such a practice, but I still don't see why the video feels it's necessary to explicitly direct it at "white" ones (I'd imagine women would also feel less safe.. why isn't it specifically directed at white male beg-packers?). Even if literally every single beg-packer was white, it would still be sufficient to just call them out as "beg-packers" rather than "white beg-packers"... they'll know who they are. And if they aren't all white, well then you're not addressing everybody who needs to be addressed. The problem is the beg-packing, not being white while doing so.
As for the practice of beg-packing... It's kinda scummy, especially if they could afford to travel normally and/or engaging in this practice in poorer regions. But I'm not 100% against it if they can't afford to travel and are doing it in relatively wealthy areas.
As far as English as a second language goes, the Dutch are about as close to native-English as it gets, and not at all representative of the typical level of English understood by the average non-native speaker.That's not always a problem. I know some Dutch guys who are actually teaching English in Indonesian (private) schools.
No need to wonder if you watch the video. Maybe the people who would wonder "why white people?" could even read an article or two to inform themselves of the issue.
It's specifically about white people because white people seem do this thing more frequently. Lots of Europeans and Americans it seems.
This post is 100% correct. The implication of singling out white beg-packers is that you think it's OK if non-white people do it.
"go to image" is pulled from the video, way to expose your own ass with a post LMAO
Hah, the dictionary even adds "derogatory" to the definition for that word, so I guess it's a good example.
Yes it is. Otherwise they'd just say "beg-packers" and their point would still stand.
Pulling implications out of your ass👏Yes it is. Otherwise they'd just say "beg-packers" and their point would still stand.