Yuji Horii exploring the usage of neural network AI for companion personalities in DQ

[Choppasmith]

So Horii was recently interviewed and gave a bunch of neat tidbits from everything from DQ1 development to Chrono Trigger to him loving Demon Slayer . LONG Twitter thread courtesy of soulstyce.



but I found this the most interesting



Suppose those 4ch rumors of a DQ3 remake were actually true, could that be the testing ground for something like this? Could we get more dynamic dialog for characters based on choices? It would probably eliminate the need for full voice acting which would be a bit of a drawback but I could see them recording various grunts and short phrases and just play that with dynamic dialog.

What do you guys think?

 

[artsi]

When Skynet was actually a Dragon Quest NPC.

 

[Deleted member 7051]

So that movie was more like something they'd hope they can do one day? 🤔

 

[texhnolyze]

It would be great if the companions you adventure with could be AI, and grow up to become your friends.

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Please no. It'll only lead to one thing: action based Dragon Quest.

 

[PerrierChaud]

don't

 

[New Username]

Edit: deleted post

 

[Chief Malik]

Yessss let's go. Only a matter of time before you can leave your characters on fight freely and not have to worry about them

 

[Strings]

That is painfully on brand for Torishima.

 

[julia crawford]

They could use model machine learning for companions in fights. That would be interesting, since they have the hum tactics or whatever it's called. Train models on each tactic.

But... i think for the enemies it would be too much, because learning the AI of a boss or even random enemy is a big part of the fun i think, and using studied models might just make that too hard.

 

[Deleted member 10737]

i don't like the sound of that...
sounds more like day-dreaming by horii anyway, i doubt this is something they can implement in the near future

 

[the magical kitsune]

- What're you waiting for? Slay the dragonlord!
- I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave

 

[texhnolyze]

While we're at it, how about using AI for a new DQ music theme so that you can ditch Sugiyama out of the franchise for good?

 

[show me your skeleton]

honestly can't see dragon quest, a very conservative series, doing anything like this anytime soon.

 

[entremet]

honestly can't see dragon quest, a very conservative series, doing anything like this anytime soon.

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The basic framework can still be there while adding these innovations.

 

[Deleted member 31092]

With the rumors of a DQ3 remake could that be the testing ground for something like this?

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Isn't the DQ3 Remake rumor from one of the usual 4ch trash leaks?

 

[Deleted member 37917]

I don't believe that these people are very familiar with the state of the art in neuromorphic computing.

 

[Strings]

honestly can't see dragon quest, a very conservative series, doing anything like this anytime soon.

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Bah, this is a bad take folks constantly throw out. The series being steeped in tradition =/= it being conservative when it comes to this sort of thing. There are too many examples of DQ pioneering and popularising cool shit. Like, StreetPass for instance.

 

[RailWays]

It can work if it's limited enough. Otherwise you are throwing the player's experience with a supporting cast up to AI lotto, which may produce very wild results in enjoyment. I would imagine such a thing is a game designer's nightmare.

 

[Choppasmith]

Isn't the DQ3 Remake rumor from one of the usual 4ch trash leaks?

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Sorry I should've worded that differently, I'll edit the post, but yeah it was one of those those type of rumors. I meant to say IF that was true it would kinda fit as an evolution of the Personality system.

 

[Yuntu]

Bah, this is a bad take folks constantly throw out. The series being steeped in tradition =/= it being conservative when it comes to this sort of thing. There are too many examples of DQ pioneering and popularising cool shit. Like, StreetPass for instance.

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DQXI also puts a lot of games ot shame in the genre visually and how consistent it performs, their tech is top notch usually. Of course graphics arent the same as AI, but if any team gets it done when talking JRPGs they are some of those I trust the most.

 

[Deleted member 29682]

Just hook up the NPCs to AI Dungeon and...

uh actually maybe don't do that.

 

[cw_sasuke]

Sounds like a bunch of stuff you could built spin-offs around ...doubt these are considered for the main series lol.

 

[Herb Alpert]

Yeah, in 20 years

 

[Cure Save Exit]

Q: "The Dragon Quest series was full of groundbreaking ideas that had never been seen in games before, such as vocations and marriage events. How did you come up with these ideas?"

Phantasy Star III did it before Dragon Quest.

 

[Jonathan Lanza]

Just hook up the NPCs to AI Dungeon and...

uh actually maybe don't do that.

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DO IT! Gimme my official erotic role play Dragon Quest.

 

[Philippo]

I think as an experiment it could work if limited to certain functions of the game, for example only for campfire talk or have specific NPC quest, maybe have like a single "minigame" village where every NPC is AI generated.

 

[Kanann]

Yep, prepare your anus on ai in next DQ

 

[RLCC14]

I could see this working out pretty well on a DQ9 follow up since that has a lot of emphasis on customization.

 

[LostCauseUnite!]

So, like that rumor of Mario 64 being personalized as you go, but with Dragon Quest instead and actually existing while not being a pasta rumor from the 90s?

Nintendo I demand a M64 remake and that personalized rumor becomes real. DO IT YOU COWARDS!!!

 

[Deleted member 37917]

Yeah, in 20 years

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That's optimistic. The silver lining is that we will finally get Dragon Quest 64.

 

[Rotobit]

if they really wanna make another DQ3/DQ9 style game then sure, go for it

But it shouldn't ever replace proper party members and their associated story arcs

 

[Gloam]

I think this is a stretch these comments should probably be read as speculative. As an example, way, way back in the 80s Horii gave an interview saying that it would be cool to have other players control party members in a future DQ game. 20 years later we saw DQ9 and later DQ10. This is pie in the sky(net) stuff folks.