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Yves Guillemot: Critical reception and sales for Ghost Recon Breakpoint during its first weeks were very disappointing
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He explains why, and while it all has PR spin, it's pretty spot on
I'm glad they're changing things up. Sort of dangerous when you think about how many elements each of their games share. Once you played one, you've played them all in a sense.
Outside of Rainbow Six Siege and AC - I haven't had the slightest inclination to play their games this gen.
Outside of Rainbow Six Siege and AC - I haven't had the slightest inclination to play their games this gen.
I guess they're finally acknowledging the one big downside to live service games...
The final point he made is basically the issue I sometimes have with Ubisoft. They make far too many games feel the damn same. Nothing made Breakpoint stand out, at least nothing that could not have just been a Wildlands expansion.
Take more time Ubi and make games interesting and unique.
Take more time Ubi and make games interesting and unique.
Maybe is for the bugs, same gaas stuff like every game, microtransactions, expensive versions, always online?
Maaaaaaybe
Maaaaaaybe
On a serious note here. I'm not sure why developers don't do spin offs of games if they are going to change the formula. People who buy COD or BFV or Ghost recon buy them based on previous history / experiences with the games style and mechanics.
It's like they took Mario and turned it into a pinball game but called it super Mario world 2 trying to capitalize on the brand.
I get games should evolve but when you change so much it's a shock to your community
It's like they took Mario and turned it into a pinball game but called it super Mario world 2 trying to capitalize on the brand.
I get games should evolve but when you change so much it's a shock to your community
Yeah, you really only need one version of a live service game a generation. Wildlands should have been their only GR game until next gen when Breakpoint could have served as a refresh/jump in on new, more powerful hardware.
Kinda crazy that wildlands apparently did amazing, and it's sequel did shit.
I always thought it looked generic from the start.
I always thought it looked generic from the start.
No shit they completely and totally fucked the game. It's unbelievable. All you had to do was make a BETTER Wildlands and they tried to make it an extremely shitty Wildlands raised by The Division.
Ubisoft is disappointing. They can't expect people to keep buying their factory processed sausage games.
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Yeah here's a thread on Ubisoft's various delays https://www.resetera.com/threads/ub...gods-monsters-to-the-next-fiscal-year.148968/
Can't say I'm surprised. All of my co-workers have been trying to get me to buy the game for the past week and every time I'm about to, visions of Wildlands and AC: Odyssey and their MTX filled grindfests kills any motivation.
It's a bad game that sacrifices the integrity of its gameplay mechanics in order to force even more shitty monetization methods down people's throats.
Ultimately it's a bad game, thats very expensive. In a market with tons of games that are way cheaper and way better.
It's like releasing a car that is considerably worse than the average car on the market but costs more and charges an extra fee for things that are usually free like turning on the radio or AC or refueling the tank.
Ultimately it's a bad game, thats very expensive. In a market with tons of games that are way cheaper and way better.
It's like releasing a car that is considerably worse than the average car on the market but costs more and charges an extra fee for things that are usually free like turning on the radio or AC or refueling the tank.
To be fair to them, they are a company that learns from it's mistakes. They also do change things up when the market tells them that they have to.
The Unity debacle led to a lot of changes to quality control and the general malaise setting in re: AC made them basically change AC completely in terms of genre. AC Odyssey bears hardly any resemblance to the older games.
So if I'm reading this correctly, they will:
1. Release fewer GAAS games - (If they increase the duration between each release they either have to plug that gap with something else or simply release them further apart. Probably the latter).
2. Spend longer play-testing game play changes
3. Make each game more distinct from it's predecessor.
These are all good things.
The Unity debacle led to a lot of changes to quality control and the general malaise setting in re: AC made them basically change AC completely in terms of genre. AC Odyssey bears hardly any resemblance to the older games.
So if I'm reading this correctly, they will:
1. Release fewer GAAS games - (If they increase the duration between each release they either have to plug that gap with something else or simply release them further apart. Probably the latter).
2. Spend longer play-testing game play changes
3. Make each game more distinct from it's predecessor.
These are all good things.
Maybe next time don't ask Ubisoft studios to make an even more generic shooter after less than 3 years since Wildlands.
I guess the positive initial response to The Division 2 obscured this lesson a bit. I don't know what the falloff numbers are, obviously, but my sense from people still playing the game is that there was less keeping people around than the original Division, and that there was still a significant community playing The Division well after the sequel's release for exactly this reason.
That's the thing that I find interesting about this: everyone here thought Wildlands was a nothingburger and then it turned out to be extremely successful. Now we have some people assuming Breakpoint would sell a ton because hey, Wildlands sold a ton, only to find that's not the case. We just might not be very good at judging whether these kinds of games will be successful or not or why.
Actually surprised, it's not like the other's were really polished at release, but still sold a fuck load. I know Breakpoint was another level of shitty. I'm very happy it blew up in their face, hopefully they dial it back the shitty mxt, though I doubt they will, considering what he said.
They rushed a sequel to one of their surprise biggest hits, turned it into an always online loot shooter and removed core franchise features. Then released it unfinished and packed with microtransactions.
Breakpoint got exactly the reception it deserved every step of the way.
I say this as someone who really likes the game and has already played over a hundred hours.
Breakpoint got exactly the reception it deserved every step of the way.
I say this as someone who really likes the game and has already played over a hundred hours.
I played about 30 hours and had fun for most of those; never once felt compelled, pushed, or forced to even consider the MTX. I enjoyed it more than Division 2, which got very good reviews.
I can see why it would still be viewed as a grindfest, but merely having a ton of samey content doesn't make me think of actual grindfests that many old RPGs used to be.
Of course anything can be a grind depending who you ask, but I see a big difference between having to run in circles fighting random battles versus clearing out hundreds of locations with things to find on an oversized map (that applies to Odyssey as well).
I can see why it would still be viewed as a grindfest, but merely having a ton of samey content doesn't make me think of actual grindfests that many old RPGs used to be.
Of course anything can be a grind depending who you ask, but I see a big difference between having to run in circles fighting random battles versus clearing out hundreds of locations with things to find on an oversized map (that applies to Odyssey as well).
release half finished game, hope people dont realize.
ubisofts been doing this for years now, no surprise here.
ubisofts been doing this for years now, no surprise here.