Rumour: The Batman is Not What WB Thought I'd Be, Similar Reaction to Joker (Movie is Not in Trouble Yet)
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Just throw a dart at any shitty movies WB has pumped out within the last 10 years. You'll probably land on one that had studio interfering and the director ended up complain about it after release.
It doesn't help that there is a scene where Pattinson masturbates to a soap carving of Harley Quinn.
perhaps i wasnt paying attention back then, thought most liked the film. Personally I thought it was great.
actually, now that I think about, the general feeling on era was that it was a good film. Especially as commentary on wealth inequality and the state of (mental) healthcare.
"similar reaction to Joker"
Ok, so leave the movie and director alone then....
Ok, so leave the movie and director alone then....
Thats wild...because I thought Joker was a great movie.
That was for Justice League.
BvS they made a bunch of cuts so they could fit in more screenings per day.
Suits, please let the guy work. You have plenty of examples of the original cut being better. Just leave them be please.
Having butchered BvS, Suicide Squad, and Justice League, Warner Bros. hungers for another DC film to chop to bits.
If these same execs thought wonder women 84 was a good film then really there opinion means Jack shit
Because you're supposed to be seeing it through the eyes of the gang that's behind the guy getting beaten.
I'll support the studio that came out with Fury Road, 2049 and Dune.
If I'm WB, I probably want a solid PG Batman film I can sell toys to kids from. There hasn't really been one of those since the 90s.
Might be dating myself but this new generation of leakers seem to be speed running the Ain't it cool news handbook
They're already at tripping on acid as they ram their wheelchairs into women to get them to fall into their laps and onto their erections?
You'd think by now they would realize that them interfering with the movie = movie is bad = BO numbers aren't good.
I dunno if this leak has any truth to it, but if it does WB really need to get rid of their sick control issues
I dunno if this leak has any truth to it, but if it does WB really need to get rid of their sick control issues
I have full confidence in Matt Reeves to make a great movie. Dude knows what he's doing. With Todd Phillips I can understand WB being reluctant during the production of Joker because his previous output was mostly just comedies and Joker was a pretty big departure from that. Hopefully WB doesn't intervene with The Batman much.
Yeah editors and the editing process still (and most likely forever will) get a bad rap from people unable to respect them because of how much "creative freedom" is downright fetishized. Typically you do not want a single creator to have full control because most people have some pretty shitty impulses that they're completely blind to and second opinions are necessary in order to distill the good from the bad.
The problem is WB can't be trusted to do that properly because they're so fucking bad at it. And it's clearly a systemic issue - they should've been reshuffled a couple times now between everything post-Josstice League and the Discovery merger and yet they still keep face-planting themselves like this.
I wonder how different the tone is from the trailer cause that seemed pretty confident and put a stake in the ground of for what I thought they were going for
Keaton Batman only needed one punch to take out one of these guys.
Its actually kinda incredible. You'd think WB would realize or know that the people in charge shouldn't be fucking with movies but I guess not when you're in charge, why fire yourself
I mean Marvel Studios blows Sony's stuff out of the water. Yet WB is still somehow so much worse than both
I mean Marvel Studios blows Sony's stuff out of the water. Yet WB is still somehow so much worse than both
Not to mention still giving Nolan whatever budget he needs to do his original blockbusters. I mean, how many chances did they give the Wachowski's despite all the flops they kept delivering after the Matrix trilogy. Not sure why WB all of sudden got this reputation of being a studio that meddles too much compared to others. They've been putting out the most daring and risky blockbusters more than any other studio for decades.
It feels like this is the most standard non-story you can get for any movie. There are always rumblings that executives aren't happy about a big movies whether it's a movie that breaks records commercially and critically or a huge flop. It's like internet 101 on how to generate interactions and doesn't really mean anything anyway.
But I haven't had a chance to try to water down people's enthusiasm yet!
I'm interested and hope WB execs stay clear.
My ultimate hope is that this is kind of reverse-Snyder in its trajectory. Batman starts off very bitter and bad but the struggle causes some actual introspection and refines him.
To me, part of the problem with DCEU so far has been that only Superman kinda gets an arc. Batman just shows up and is quite, uh, villainous with only implied trauma that's damaged him to his current state.
I'd rather see a Batman that starts harsh and violent and gets better, not fall-from-grace Batman… but I'm just putting that hope together from Pattison's interview where he suggests his take on the character is kind of a bad person, the tone of the teaser, and my own wishful thinking. I don't mind breaking Batman down at all but at the end of the day, I wanna be convinced that he's actually capable of good. Snyderverse Batman really only felt like he was a disillusioned jerk that had grown a bit too comfortable being the dominant force and not really actually a hero — his arc was more or less just figuring out that he was undeniably not that anymore and given he started off machine-guns-blazing and "Do you bleed"-ing, that's a pretty shit state of affairs for big screen Bats.
Start him off brutal and kinda shitty, get him to realize that it's not a productive way to elevate society, and transform him into an actual hero figure and not a threatened, rich ass bully.
Military-spec brutality Batman is just straight up shit.
My ultimate hope is that this is kind of reverse-Snyder in its trajectory. Batman starts off very bitter and bad but the struggle causes some actual introspection and refines him.
To me, part of the problem with DCEU so far has been that only Superman kinda gets an arc. Batman just shows up and is quite, uh, villainous with only implied trauma that's damaged him to his current state.
I'd rather see a Batman that starts harsh and violent and gets better, not fall-from-grace Batman… but I'm just putting that hope together from Pattison's interview where he suggests his take on the character is kind of a bad person, the tone of the teaser, and my own wishful thinking. I don't mind breaking Batman down at all but at the end of the day, I wanna be convinced that he's actually capable of good. Snyderverse Batman really only felt like he was a disillusioned jerk that had grown a bit too comfortable being the dominant force and not really actually a hero — his arc was more or less just figuring out that he was undeniably not that anymore and given he started off machine-guns-blazing and "Do you bleed"-ing, that's a pretty shit state of affairs for big screen Bats.
Start him off brutal and kinda shitty, get him to realize that it's not a productive way to elevate society, and transform him into an actual hero figure and not a threatened, rich ass bully.
Military-spec brutality Batman is just straight up shit.
They changed leadership last year. Jason Kilar
was the one who spearheaded the move to put all 2021 movies day and date on HBO Max without giving talent a heads up, pissing off everyone in the process. Not a coincidence that he has already been pushed out in favor of a new guy who is reemphasizing talent relationships.
This.
Most of the DCEU movies are/were beyond saving. And I wanna know if it's true that the studio interfered a lot on Birds of Prey.
i think this is overstated, it makes sense that the execs are worried on how to market the film if it's really different but they're not dumb enough to mess with the Reeve's vision off a hunch especially after how well Joker did
Well, if WB has a pattern of butchering certain movies the one thing those movies have in common is… Batman.