That's the prevailing opinion also with Swifties (well that it's amorphous, not lacking depth lmao), but that's because since Midnights, Antonoff has been producing her albums like house music, where songs have been selected and mixed to blend into each other. It takes a few repeat listens to understand where songs begin and end and have their distinct motifs. Also narratively it's frequently meant to be listened to in sequence (or a few sequences), where she e.g. describes a breakup through different songs from realization to dramatic to morose to unhinged to rebound. I think this is one of the reasons why streaming numbers are also through the roof, once people start listening, they keep on listening the whole thing. But it makes it increasingly harder to convince people who listen to it once and don't get it. You're not really supposed to get it after one listen.
Yes! This has always been an issue in all genres, where the music needs time to breathe and emerge, but it's expected in some like house. You need to give it time. In pop music though, it's quite risky because it's meant to be immediately catchy. We're living in the age of the tiktok hook. Swift is in a place where she can do this because she's so massive, the music won't be ignored if it doesn't hit on first listen. I love that's she doing it.
Some of you guys are so negative and confrontational, and I see this on the gaming side a lot too. Is this how you guys act in real life? Join conversations just to shit on the things people are talking about? Do you have any friends? Does anyone even want to talk to you? If you just shut up and let people enjoy what they like, I swear you'll probably end up a much happier person.
Well said. It's even more bizarre when it's a forum where you have to deliberately seek out the conversation rather than maybe being stuck at a social gathering.
A thread like this about album sales, it's fine to criticise marketing practices, and I did myself, but just popping in merely to say the music is shit is strange. Like, okay, thanks for that contribution.
I've heard some of Billie Eilish work, and what I've heard has been amazing. I should listen to her again, as I haven't in so long now.
The female artists I've been in love with are: Alice Glass, Sydney Bennett, Sophie, and 3l3d3p. It's been hard to find artists who talk about sapphic relationships in music.
Also, I can't relate to Taylor Swift because I'm not anything like her besides being white. So I have nothing there.
Thank you for this! I'm always on the look out for sapphic music, which can be hard to find. This is my favourite type of recommendation: 3 artists I already love and one I don't know. I mean, I'll have to check them out now!
Also, to be honest, I do all the Gaylor stuff and reading into her music, not because I think she is but just to have fun with it. And it's an old habit from the days of much less representation.
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