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Love Boat 3 Mafia |OT| This time it's Bearsonal
- Thread starter The Bear
- Start date
I imagine the mechanical discrepancy will be explained by the fact that scum have a unified chat instead of each pair having individual boats, this was the way it was in Bear Boat 1 at least. In a sense-
wait.
BEAR DID YOU MAKE ME INTO A COP.
the horror
-we can add scum to our gossip chats, but we can't steal them from their individual chats, because they have none.
nope, hes on his own there.
im totes down for a bae-lus lynch, i was hesitant before because things felt similarity to the dead air before SDubs lynch, and i was gonna look back at them but then things went all ace attorney today so i dont really feel the need to anymore.
if you havnt noticed we arnt particularily in-sync.
well i can respect that your really going down swinging.
its also pretty obvious, both the last couple days have had high profile clear targets that resulted in little meaningful discussion beyond them, not hard for those not involved to go unnoticed amongst it.
Anyway, I admire the play. It was ballsy. Eventually we'll see just how ballsy (depending on scum roles) and they almost pulled it off.
Premise 1: Gossip works different for scum and town
Premise 2: We are town and PB can see our chat
Lemma: Scum can't see their chat when gossiped.
Premise 3: Geno can't see their chat when gossiped.
Conclusion: Geno is scum.
I care if a turbo happens.
unvote
This looks pretty clear so we should maybe look at connections before we give them free reign for the night kill.
unvote
This looks pretty clear so we should maybe look at connections before we give them free reign for the night kill.
I was thinking that about an idea that PR's could still see the chats because that way they could at least somewhat coordinate (the steal could override or post the command if needed) but that breaks the rule of "what's not in the PM does not exist" and thus seems very bastard.
No.
Also you are the real MVP here. If you hadn't been so adamant I'd have never gone through like I did.
I like the idea that scum go into their NK with as little information as possible on us and where our heads are at.
Malus voting Kyan and Donna is super bad.
Vote: Malus
Even if they were town cops, this is not a town move, you would have to be super dumb as town to do that. I guess I was delusional, Bae is most likely scum.
Vote: Malus
Even if they were town cops, this is not a town move, you would have to be super dumb as town to do that. I guess I was delusional, Bae is most likely scum.
Turbo now is not a good idea I think. Maybe later. I for one don't have time now for much but a few posts.
One idea to look for would be looking how people responded to the cop softing and claim; who worked with it, who ignored it, who went too far with wanting her dead for no reason.
One idea to look for would be looking how people responded to the cop softing and claim; who worked with it, who ignored it, who went too far with wanting her dead for no reason.
Okay so, my thoughts on the scum team:
Pirate Bae/Malus
Vere/Apollo
3rd pair I'm unsure of but my suspects would be:
Rekibro
Skychuggs
Fep/Stan
I don't see the 3rd pair being outside those 3. Could be wrong of course.
I'm pretty convinced on the first two, Bae/Malus and Vere/Apollo though.
Pirate Bae/Malus
Vere/Apollo
3rd pair I'm unsure of but my suspects would be:
Rekibro
Skychuggs
Fep/Stan
I don't see the 3rd pair being outside those 3. Could be wrong of course.
I'm pretty convinced on the first two, Bae/Malus and Vere/Apollo though.
if connections crop up from here til day end ill be fucking shocked
i don't see why we can't look for older connections while it's night
I don't agree but y'all can easily turbo without my vote.
because someone is going to die and what if they're the ones who come up with the key?
Like this whole thing was a group effort.
ahh, 'they dont know what were thinking if we dont know what were thinking'?
very wise.
kinda stupid, but wise.
Just some stuff Monkey talked to me about in chat.
I was leaning towards them being town but Monkey's made me question that read haha.
Also got an answer from Bear:
No comment, nothing unexpected but still, cements they are scum.
No comment, nothing unexpected but still, cements they are scum.
And there was a trail of bodies leading to Abs4all before they got cleared the next day
Agreed. I pointed out last night that we should've been working on connections while we waited for word from Bear. At this point, I'm ready to move on with it.
Ty4on and absolutbro - green checked by false cop - prime target for solving
Reasons they could be town:
1. scum unlikely to tie themselves to another scum in case of flip
2. Fat4All has seemed pretty legit
3. The d1 votes before Sorian interference does indicate town
Reasons they could be scum:
1. WIFOM here - they know we know that and part of the irony Bae kept mentioning could also be that AbBro was the one who outed her during MafiEra, so how funny if they did it again here and he was the one she green-checked
2. Fat4All also walked into the thread under a supposed green check; I'd be chill, too.
Indeterminate based on these factors. I think looking back at their reactions is important. They are low on my possible scum list, tbh, but we need to do that work.
Not scum in this gamestate:
Kyanrute and empressdonna
Geno and Funky Dude Sparks
CoolestSpot and Lone_Prodigy (did you ever read enough?)
Probably not scum because of work/reads/reactions:
Zippedpinhead and Fantomas
Natiko and Terraforce
rac and Vincent Alexander
Scum pool:
Verelios and Apollo
SkyOdin and TheChuggernaut
Xbro and Reki
Stantastic and flatearthpandas
If it were me, I'd order it like this:
Verelios and Apollo: likely
Xbro and Reki: slightly less likely
SkyChuggs and flatearthstans both ???
And then bring AbFat back down here as a longshot possibility.
Reasons they could be town:
1. scum unlikely to tie themselves to another scum in case of flip
2. Fat4All has seemed pretty legit
3. The d1 votes before Sorian interference does indicate town
Reasons they could be scum:
1. WIFOM here - they know we know that and part of the irony Bae kept mentioning could also be that AbBro was the one who outed her during MafiEra, so how funny if they did it again here and he was the one she green-checked
2. Fat4All also walked into the thread under a supposed green check; I'd be chill, too.
Indeterminate based on these factors. I think looking back at their reactions is important. They are low on my possible scum list, tbh, but we need to do that work.
Not scum in this gamestate:
Kyanrute and empressdonna
Geno and Funky Dude Sparks
CoolestSpot and Lone_Prodigy (did you ever read enough?)
Probably not scum because of work/reads/reactions:
Zippedpinhead and Fantomas
Natiko and Terraforce
rac and Vincent Alexander
Scum pool:
Verelios and Apollo
SkyOdin and TheChuggernaut
Xbro and Reki
Stantastic and flatearthpandas
If it were me, I'd order it like this:
Verelios and Apollo: likely
Xbro and Reki: slightly less likely
SkyChuggs and flatearthstans both ???
And then bring AbFat back down here as a longshot possibility.
...does Abs4all sounds like some kinda infomercial exercise machine to anyone else?
I don't think we should just move down the order but I don't see the pool changing - so each day needs to be reassessed and we should expect bussing here or there so don't think votes are pure.
god yes, did you not see the thing malus posted about that earlier? it was hilarious
I will also say I don't think the messenger role is itself AI. So SkyChuggs will come down to reads.
wait did i miss something here? what about the gamestate makes them town?
i thought it was just geno being widely townread by peeps?
Geno not being able to see his night chat is kind of a whole thing here, man.
You mean Kyan, right? Was mentioning Geno an honest mistake or do you suspect him as well?
A scum!Bae flip would give credence to those who pushed her before she became a particularly hot topic of discussion imo. And not to toot my own horn, but I made it known that I was suspicious pretty early on, so was rac seemingly, and of course Monkey. I'd also argue it validates Fatbro as well. In no world do I see a scum team so bold that they would fake a green scan on themselves like that. Far too risky of a move and instantly incriminates both if even one of them flip.