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Should People Who Have Undergone Cosmetic Surgery Be Required to Disclose to their Partner Prior to Marriage/Kids?

Mandatory Disclosure of Cosmetic Surgery Prior to Marriage/Kids?

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Scrillz

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Some cosmetic surgeries have become so convincing that it is getting increasingly difficult to distinguish what is natural vs. what has been artificially constructed. It has gotten to the point where I've been wondering if disclosure requirements should become federal law.

If you are attracted to a certain physical trait(s) of the opposite sex (eye color, ass shape, etc.) and especially if it happens be one of the main reasons for your decision to proceed in a relationship, isn't there a reasonable expectation for the chance of said trait(s) to be inherited by your future offspring? Don't people deserve to know if such probabilities are non-existent? Failure to disclose is surely a moral wrong. But should new laws be placed on the books to deter the fraudsters among us?
 
Bing147

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Scrillz said:
Some cosmetic surgeries have become so convincing that it is getting increasingly difficult to distinguish what is natural vs. what has been artificially constructed. It has gotten to the point where I've been wondering if disclosure requirements should become federal law.

If you are attracted to a certain physical trait(s) of the opposite sex (eye color, ass shape, etc.) and especially if it happens be one of the main reasons for your decision to proceed in a relationship, isn't there a reasonable expectation for the chance of said trait(s) to be inherited by your future offspring? Don't people deserve to know if such probabilities are non-existent? Failure to disclose is surely a moral wrong. But should new laws be placed on the books to deter the fraudsters among us?
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Is your argument that people should be able to be confident they'll be attracted to their kids? I don't think that will stand up well under scrutiny...
 
Lowrys

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What?! No. If you're having children, that decision shouldn't be based in any way on them having specific physical "traits". Isn't that basically eugenics?
 
Ushojax

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The OP reads like the ramblings of a potential school shooter. If one of the "main reasons" you are in a relationship with someone is because you want your children to inherit their ass shape, there is something wrong with you.
 

DryCreek

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Oct 25, 2017
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why do you care what your kids are gonna look like.

if cosmetic surgery is indistinguishable to the point where you cant tell whether its natural or not why would it ever come up or bother you.
 
cameron

cameron

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Oct 26, 2017
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Troll thread? Troll account?

The type of shite some people sit around thinking about.
 
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Scrillz

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Bing147 said:
Is your argument that people should be able to be confident they'll be attracted to their kids? I don't think that will stand up well under scrutiny...
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Oh c'mon, that's what you took from my comment?

No, my logic, based on my very limited knowledge of biology, was that we expect/hope for some of the desirable traits we identify in our partner to be passed on to our offspring so that they are desired as well in order to increase their chance of reproduction and so on...
 
Plinkerton

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Nov 4, 2017
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If your main reason for being in a relationship with someone is "ass shape", you probably shouldn't be getting married to them full stop.
 
MrKlaw

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should your partner be scanned for and disclose potential genetically inheritable diseases before you marry/have kids?

Same kinda question and the answer is still no
 
nsilvias

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probably only if they got plastic surgery in their face so hardcore that they look nothing like there old self. any other plastc surgery is whatever
i have no issue with plastic surgery but ive seen a couple before and afters from people who have an addiction to plastic surgery and it left me a bit uncomforatble with how they looked nothing close to their old self.
 
LewieP

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Joni

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You should probably tell your life partner about significant life events, but that reasoning is so stupid
 
Fat4all

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MrKlaw said:
should your partner be scanned for and disclose potential genetically inheritable diseases before you marry/have kids?

Same kinda question and the answer is still no
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"im so glad we decided to do a third date, if you could just strap yourself into this machine, it's called the 'One-Drop' detector, just gotta sort a few things out before things get SERIOUS."
 

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Scrillz said:
Oh c'mon, that's what you took from my comment?

No, my logic, based on my very limited knowledge of biology, was that we expect/hope for some of the desirable traits we identify in our partner to be passed on to our offspring so that they are desired as well in order to increase their chance of reproduction and so on...
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I don't think people should be choosing partners based on how attractive we think the kids would be.
 
gremlinz1982

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Scrillz said:
Some cosmetic surgeries have become so convincing that it is getting increasingly difficult to distinguish what is natural vs. what has been artificially constructed. It has gotten to the point where I've been wondering if disclosure requirements should become federal law.

If you are attracted to a certain physical trait(s) of the opposite sex (eye color, ass shape, etc.) and especially if it happens be one of the main reasons for your decision to proceed in a relationship, isn't there a reasonable expectation for the chance of said trait(s) to be inherited by your future offspring? Don't people deserve to know if such probabilities are non-existent? Failure to disclose is surely a moral wrong. But should new laws be placed on the books to deter the fraudsters among us?
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What the hell is this?
 
Monstress

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There are weird masculinist vibes from this post, things like "I don't have a girlfriend because my dad/mom has bad genes".
 
Lowrys

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Face/Off 2 will starting filming in July, said the studio. The plot is a closely guarded secret, but leaks suggest the film will be a departure from the action-packed 1993 original. One insider says the sequel will be a legal drama about legislation dealing with the face-substitution tech, which is now commonplace: one person's tireless, insane, doomed crusade to force partners to reveal, as part of the marriage ceremony, any prior cosmetic procedures, so they have a chance to change their minds or sue for damages.
 
Fiction

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Scrillz said:
Some cosmetic surgeries have become so convincing that it is getting increasingly difficult to distinguish what is natural vs. what has been artificially constructed. It has gotten to the point where I've been wondering if disclosure requirements should become federal law.

If you are attracted to a certain physical trait(s) of the opposite sex (eye color, ass shape, etc.) and especially if it happens be one of the main reasons for your decision to proceed in a relationship, isn't there a reasonable expectation for the chance of said trait(s) to be inherited by your future offspring? Don't people deserve to know if such probabilities are non-existent? Failure to disclose is surely a moral wrong. But should new laws be placed on the books to deter the fraudsters among us?
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How in the ever loving fuck is not disclosing you got a cosmetic surgery on your ass morally wrong?
 
jiggle

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Your kids can get plastic surgery too so they can live up to your expectations of their physical appearance
 
bushmonkey

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This is a hilariously terrible opinion and something I'd imagine to be a storyline in Always Sunny lol.
 
Triggerhappytel

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Scrillz said:
No, not at all. The delivery was a bit tongue and cheek and shouldn't be taken too seriously but I am curious about this particular social phenomenon that we are discussing.
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You probably shouldn't be marrying someone if you know so little about them that you haven't seen any pictures of them as a teenager.

Taking your question seriously and assuming you're talking about major facial cosmetic surgery done purely for vanity.
 
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Scrillz

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MrKlaw said:
should your partner be scanned for and disclose potential genetically inheritable diseases before you marry/have kids?

Same kinda question and the answer is still no
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I actually wanted to avoid approaching the topic from this angle and focus on the superficial, hence the cosmetic focus, but since you brought it up I will explain how your answer to your proposed question is awful and dangerous: I carry the sickle cell trait and I absolutely have to request such disclosures from my potential partners for the sake of my future kid's wellbeing. Too many couples who are in similar situations as me don't have these conversations, and unfortunately their kids suffer as a result.

Anyways, I would like to keep things lighthearted and stick to the superficial for the sake of easy going discussions.
 
Guppeth

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Scrillz said:
No, my logic, based on my very limited knowledge of biology, was that we expect/hope for some of the desirable traits we identify in our partner to be passed on to our offspring so that they are desired as well in order to increase their chance of reproduction and so on...
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Yeah it makes sense. I want my kids to have longer legs, sharper claws, maybe sonar. Anything to give them an edge.
 
8bit

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You should be required to disclose your internet posting history though.
 
Joni

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Scrillz said:
I actually wanted to avoid approaching the topic from this angle and focus on the superficial, hence the cosmetic focus, but since you brought it up I will explain how your answer to your proposed question is awful and dangerous: I carry the sickle cell trait and I absolutely have to request such disclosures from my potential partners for the sake of my future kid's wellbeing. Too many couples who are in similar situations as me don't have these conversations, and unfortunately their kids suffer as a result.

Anyways, I would like to keep things lighthearted and stick to the superficial for the sake of easy going discussions.
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You might get more positive responses when it is about horrible genetic diseases - where yeah, testing before you start on having kids the traditional way - compared to superficial ones about not loving your kids because they are ugly.
 
MrKlaw

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Scrillz said:
I actually wanted to avoid approaching the topic from this angle and focus on the superficial, hence the cosmetic focus, but since you brought it up I will explain how your answer to your proposed question is awful and dangerous: I carry the sickle cell trait and I absolutely have to request such disclosures from my potential partners for the sake of my future kid's wellbeing. Too many couples who are in similar situations as me don't have these conversations, and unfortunately their kids suffer as a result.

Anyways, I would like to keep things lighthearted and stick to the superficial for the sake of easy going discussions.
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fair enough - I was wondering as I posted if you yourself have specific genetic traits you would probably want to check with potential partners and make an informed decision about kids or not - and in theory that would connect to marriage/long term partnership based on each of your attitudes towards wanting kids.
 
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