It doesn't make him town though. This could still be a scum or neutral power.
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LOL, I feel like I can edit out my whole post and just say "EDIT: beaten"
Glad that we're thinking the same possibilities about exo's claim
True. I was referring to his DV claim rather than his town one.
Either way he made arisky move and painted a target on his back as sae also pointed out. That is the reason I'm pinning him more as neutral or town.
Yeah, I'm leaning more towards some sort of neutral role. Not scum, but the move was generally anti-town
I just came from a game where scum claimed cop on day 1 and then faked a green check on a scum buddy. So I've seen scum do some bold shit and I wouldn't really rule out claiming a NAI role like a double voter on day 1 to try to get some town cred.
I'm not a fan of choosing weemad for a Day 1 lynch. It might be better to aim for a lower count poster on an early day (while fully noting the irony in me being a lower count poster ( ._.) ) because more posts means more stuff to dig through on later days. Low contribution players remain a painful enigma in later days
This. It's why I don't trust the completely unprompted claim. If there was some pressure on them at the time I'd feel better about it because it would be an attempt to not be killed. But this? I can't figure out the why of it.
Neon just to answer your question we keep all game thread talk here unless it's scum chat or some other approved chat (masons, etc). We also don't do jesters here and I believe we consider them bastard. Since this game isn't bastard you wouldn't have to worry about that.
Gonna get to the other comments around soon. Need to get ready for tomorrow and I'll get my final thoughts in before I zzzzx
Gonna get to the other comments around soon. Need to get ready for tomorrow and I'll get my final thoughts in before I zzzzx
Vote: WhySoDevious
For reasons I explained in my post above, but I'd be good with an LP lynch, too
For reasons I explained in my post above, but I'd be good with an LP lynch, too
Well at least the catching up aint too bad yet.
Xodus's claim is weird, i was thinking i would wait to see if it turns out to be more complicated via X-shots or whatever but the fact hes throwing it out today willy nilly makes that seem unlikely. eh, will look more into em later.
Weemad feels...off?
Zeke is still seeing sinister intent in every shadow, so good to know that hasn't changed.
Light theme is for cowards.
Xodus's claim is weird, i was thinking i would wait to see if it turns out to be more complicated via X-shots or whatever but the fact hes throwing it out today willy nilly makes that seem unlikely. eh, will look more into em later.
Weemad feels...off?
Zeke is still seeing sinister intent in every shadow, so good to know that hasn't changed.
Light theme is for cowards.
Okay, then this is good to know! I swear on the old site we played a game that had a miller or something looking to get killed :o
So then, exodus , like why do the claim? lol
I... I can't believe this... but... Stan is now my most town read D:
It's not always great to refer back to previous games, but in the case of LP, I've been in a game where he was scum and kept to a minimum number of posts.
So, I wouldn't give LP the benefit of "Oh, you're just low post. Can't be scum, then"
Ah yeah that makes sense, low post count players always give me the impression of trying to fly below the radar
Good to know that there are no jesters usually in these games.
So what should we do. I'm soon going to catch some zzzs and I'd like to leave with a good idea f how the next hours are going to play out since this phase ends in less than 24 hours and I'm not sure how active I'm going to be.
So what should we do. I'm soon going to catch some zzzs and I'd like to leave with a good idea f how the next hours are going to play out since this phase ends in less than 24 hours and I'm not sure how active I'm going to be.
Im also pretty okay with lynching LP if there arnt really any more...reasoned option i guess?
he is always a rather frustrating (lack of) presence in any game.
he is always a rather frustrating (lack of) presence in any game.
Mmm LP kind of does that regardless of if he's scum or town though. It's why I have such a hard time reading him most of the time. I think the only time I correctly hit him as scum was when he replaced in for someone.
How am I above Wee if you liked my earlier play but have no mention of liking Wee's early play? And Meatwad gave the same read that is bugging you about me but that isn't in your list?
I'd give this more weight if I wasn't the one voting for you. Like if you singled me out before I voted for you? Sure. But I voted for you and then you came in with a read. if I hadn't voted for you I don't know if you would have ever singled me out.
Unless things have changed in the last few months most of our activity happens in the hours (>4) leading up to Day End. It's sometimes a clusterfuck :p
oops, forgot that oreomunsta one.
We've had millers but that's Town coming up as scum on a cop check. Tanners have been in our ONUW games but i don't recall them ever being in a full game here. :x
We've had millers but that's Town coming up as scum on a cop check. Tanners have been in our ONUW games but i don't recall them ever being in a full game here. :x
The post I liked were mostly early day 1 stuff. It's a very soft like. You set off a bit more alarm bells to me there then Wee did.
Yeah, it could go either way, but I prefer a low-post lynch for D1
y tho
Pretty much again me wanting a low-post lynch D1. I live for the late-game analysis of players with lots of posts o_o weemad's contributing a lot so far
Well guys. gtg. I'll see you tomorrow for those hours of insanity. Hope we can reach a consensus.
The way you word things comes off with more "shade". It's subtle, but it's there.
So what do you want to do about it?
At this point we know lp's low posting style is nai at best right?
That's....not it at all, Wee.
I'm going over it again but here's the breakdown.
It starts here where I vote for LP. As I explain later it's a half joke/half prod that I wanted LP to do more of something, anything. I also was not against it becoming a far more serious vote if nothing else popped up, i.e. scum reads
Then Wee posts this with little actual explanation
A couple of folks note it and ask questions. These are Reki, Sae, and Ket.
Wee clarifies to Reki that it's simply unbelievable that a Townie could ever pick out LP because he is the 'easy' target. Says my reasoning (keep this part in mind) is too weak.
Ket and Reki pursue it further, asking Wee how my vote somehow makes me Scum.
I wake up and join in on this fun time with an explanation of my vote.
Wee's response Ket's and Reki's question as to why that makes me scum is, again, I've been around long enough to know prods don't work on LP so therefore I am a liar for trying it anyway.
Wee doesn't respond to my explanation post (despite mentioning that my reasoning is weak even though I didn't explain it until after their chat with Reki/Ket). I ask them why
This whole exchange happens. I call out Wee for not discussing my reasoning behind the vote and they continue to simply sit on the 'you should know better' angle without talking about lunching low post counts, unhelpful Day 1, etc. Even Ket enters in again and echoes my sentiment that Wee is protecting LP and that gets nothing out of them.
Wee's next post is:
That's the second dodge from Wee so I vote:
Response? 'i'm scumhunting'. Still nothing back to me.
And then even keeps it going by ignoring this last statement too.
Neeks:
Wee:
thank you for coming to my TED talk
I laid it out earlier in my read post. He's been playing today close to his chest in regards to any sort of reads. At best, he's not helping town scum hunt.
You just auto town reading Exodus after his claim just came off as fake to me. That and your LP vote is weird. It all feels very flimsy and it doesn't feel like something town you would do from like our one other game together.
I see little reason to believe he is Scum for that claim. The payout just isn't enough to justify that level of early scrutiny that kind of claim will get you. Last time I was scum I ran with that 'wellllll, you never know that early claim COULD still be scum guys...' for days because you always keep a mislynch open. The person who Day 1 claimed was Town and forcing discussion on them was the easiest way to blend in as a scum team.
Unless Exo just rides this claim for Days and does nothing else I'm fine with just putting him aside for now. There's 17 other people in this game to focus on right now. :x
Aight, I'm getting some sleep. I'm in the dentist chair when the Day ends so it's super unlikely I'll be here but i'll try and pop in tomorrow morning. Key word being try. :<
I'm fine with my Wee vote for reasons above. I'm also not against LP or any of the other lower post count folks. The only people I would be against lunching are highly unlikely to be up for a vote but if for some reason they are I am against getting rid of these people as of now: Ms. Duck, Chuggs, Neon, Kong, and Ket. Would also rather not lynch Exo either for reasons above.
g'night o/
I'm fine with my Wee vote for reasons above. I'm also not against LP or any of the other lower post count folks. The only people I would be against lunching are highly unlikely to be up for a vote but if for some reason they are I am against getting rid of these people as of now: Ms. Duck, Chuggs, Neon, Kong, and Ket. Would also rather not lynch Exo either for reasons above.
g'night o/
It's mostly the he really hasn't done much aside from the claim that's pinging my "Maybe they're scum detector." and I know I keep bringing this up, but I just came out of a game where a double voter used that power and just rode that for a while because everyone (Myself included) was like "Oh, they're probably town because of the double vote" They were also bussing like crazy so everyone was just overlooking them and Monkey had the drag the rest of town to that kill. Oh, and LP ended up replacing into one of the spots on the scum double vote boat. That last part isn't really relevant, but I thought it brought this full circle and it's a fun detail lol.
Anyway, it's still early game, so I'm okay with leaving them around and letting Exodus actually do something, but I'm just nervous that we're making the same mistake we made before. I'm going to go look back at Wee's posts
Right so, Exo's role has been confirmed and we all basically agree that the role itself is NAI right? For this reason, his odd choice to claim day 1, and in general not giving me any reason to town read him, I'm still going to keep an eye on him like Sawneeks and Chuggs suggested above (because we do not want a repeat of LB3), but at the same time I also agree that maybe it's better to look elsewhere. So with that (here's hoping this works) [HIGHTLIGHT]Unvote[/HIGHLIGHT].
Now as for who I will vote for now... I am unsure.
I am totally fine with voting for one of the low post counters just because they haven't given us much to get decent reads anyways, but again I'm unsure.
Another issue for me personally is that EoD happens right as my lunch starts normally, so I may not actually be around much, so I need to figure out my vote before lunch tomorrow I guess. XD
Now as for who I will vote for now... I am unsure.
I am totally fine with voting for one of the low post counters just because they haven't given us much to get decent reads anyways, but again I'm unsure.
Another issue for me personally is that EoD happens right as my lunch starts normally, so I may not actually be around much, so I need to figure out my vote before lunch tomorrow I guess. XD
Not alignment indicative, sure, but not helpful for the game, either
Either way, LP doesn't have my vote for now, Devious does.
Gnight all! o/
Good morning everyone.
I am Back!
Same here Weemad, missed you too :*
no, he hasnt done anything that deserves to be punished.
I am Back!
Same here Weemad, missed you too :*
no, he hasnt done anything that deserves to be punished.
Regarding Exodus and his claim.
He showed us that he has the power to double-vote.
That seems fair but that does not mean that he is town alligned.
Let that be clear.
exodus glad you flexed but what did you want to accomplish by coming out like this ?
I mean, we will keep assuiming that there is the possibility of you being scum.
If you are indeed town, scum will try to just keep you alive in order to get lynched by town.
Or you will get killed by Scum since a town double voter is a lot more valuable to town.
In hindsight, you made the wrong move in my eyes.
He showed us that he has the power to double-vote.
That seems fair but that does not mean that he is town alligned.
Let that be clear.
exodus glad you flexed but what did you want to accomplish by coming out like this ?
I mean, we will keep assuiming that there is the possibility of you being scum.
If you are indeed town, scum will try to just keep you alive in order to get lynched by town.
Or you will get killed by Scum since a town double voter is a lot more valuable to town.
In hindsight, you made the wrong move in my eyes.
I wont give out actual reads until mids of day 2 or later, i just cant make up my mind about most of the players early game.
Most of the time early in the game i have a hunch but i dont want that hunch to lead me to false judgment. Thats why i am very hesitant on giving out reads this early in the game.
Thoughts, you can have my thoughts on the players if that makes you a bit more comfortable.
Regarding the Kong -thing. Saw asked me who i would like to see dead and why, i gave out my honest and not thought out gut answer. Still not sure why anyone would pin me down for something hypothetical. It just feels like the answer did not matter since everyone who i would have chosen would have been a bad choice that early in the game :3